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WeedIan
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.C:
Drafts are $20 here. Totally not worth it.

That's awful. Any Prize support or just $7 packs?

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msrp on packs is 6$ in my country. seriously.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
cause of variance. I opened niv p1p1 and went izzet. In the two games I lost if I had drew him any time before I died I would have won on the spot. so far I'm like 0-5 for rtr on mtgo, not really sure what I'm doing wrong. I was up a couple hundred w/ m13, so its not like I'm bad at draft. Maybe I'm just hitting the other extreme of variance.... I hope.

RTR is MUCH easier to play aggressively. its silly to draft big junky creatures most of the time. i tend to stare at the screen when someone drops an Isperia's Skywatch or Niv Mizzet or whatever and are still dead on board.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MagixDK:
msrp on packs is 6$ in my country. seriously.

there is nothing really cheap in denmark
a burger even at macdonalds is like $10USD

 
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lol - ebay "NRMT"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ MAGIC-THE-GATHERING-MTG-3RD-REVISED-UNDERGROUND-SEA-DUAL-LAND-NR-MT-/170935504151?pt=Trading_Card_Games_US&hash=item27cc8ccd17


Also is there something wrong with this one?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/MTG-1-X-UNDERGROUND-SEA-Dual-Land-Magic-the-Gathering-/271098499950?pt=Trading_Card_Games_US&hash=item3f1ebad36e

[Edited 1 times, lastly by pugowar on November 11, 2012]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by pugowar:
lol - ebay "NRMT"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ MAGIC-THE-GATHERING-MTG-3RD-REVISED-UNDERGROUND-SEA-DUAL-LAND-NR-MT-/170935504151?pt=Trading_Card_Games_US&hash=item27cc8ccd17

Wow... just wow.

 
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With wb cards sometimes people grade them based only on the front, which almost always (with exception of really heavy dirt) look better than the backs. It's dumb, but at least there were pics of the back in that auction.
 
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$10 drafts here
 
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quote:
Originally posted by pugowar:
lol - ebay "NRMT"
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ MAGIC-THE-GATHERING-MTG-3RD-REVISED-UNDERGROUND-SEA-DUAL-LAND-NR-MT-/170935504151?pt=Trading_Card_Games_US&hash=item27cc8ccd17


"NotReally Mint"?

 
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grave betrayal been working out for you guy's in edh?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
grave betrayal been working out for you guy's in edh?

Seems like a card that would get a big target on you.

 
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Seems like a card that would get a big target on you.

But those are the cards that I like to play.

A lot of people who are casually competitive players subscribe to the notion that being in second place is the best position in an EDH game. Those players win a lot of games, but they're not doing it the right way. What kind of player seriously tries to just be in 2nd place the whole time? It's conducive to winning drawn out games, but it's seriously lame.

My main general is Heartless Hidetsugu. He paints a huge target on my head and I don't care because he is awesome! Even if I lose, I plan on doing something awesome! And if I lose, I plan on making the games short so I can hop right back in! I'd rather push the action and force engagements than sit back. I still plan to win, but winning because of politics and sitting back while everyone else is actually playing stuff isn't my style. I still win most of the games when I play Heartless, so it's been working.

My question on Grave Betrayal is b/c Debtor's Knell is a card that seems awesome but really isn't nearly as awesome as it seems.

 
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I can't believe (ok, I mean I can) there is an actual thread on salvation, bashing collectors, even though this game is a CCG...wow
 
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quote:
Originally posted by stu55:
I can't believe (ok, I mean I can) there is an actual thread on salvation, bashing collectors, even though this game is a CCG...wow

It can't be a CCG if wizards is getting reprint crazy tho. It's evolved into a TCG.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
But those are the cards that I like to play.

A lot of people who are casually competitive players subscribe to the notion that being in second place is the best position in an EDH game. Those players win a lot of games, but they're not doing it the right way. What kind of player seriously tries to just be in 2nd place the whole time? It's conducive to winning drawn out games, but it's seriously lame.

My main general is Heartless Hidetsugu. He paints a huge target on my head and I don't care because he is awesome! Even if I lose, I plan on doing something awesome! And if I lose, I plan on making the games short so I can hop right back in! I'd rather push the action and force engagements than sit back. I still plan to win, but winning because of politics and sitting back while everyone else is actually playing stuff isn't my style. I still win most of the games when I play Heartless, so it's been working.

My question on Grave Betrayal is b/c Debtor's Knell is a card that seems awesome but really isn't nearly as awesome as it seems.



I prefer winning by manipulating everyone else at the table when there's an even balance of power (as in, my deck isn't strong enough to rip through everyone else one by one). Of course, this takes a loooong time, so I usually don't play to win and instead usually just choose one or two (depending on the size of the FFA) players to kill before I go down.

The best game of multiplayer free for all I ever played actually wasn't using magic cards but playing the Game of Thrones TCG; a game with six players that took three hours to complete. And I played everyone off of each other the
entire time.

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I feel like debtor's knell is awesome, but probably just because the last 3 games somebody played it, they followed it up with obliterate immediately :|
 
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quote:
Originally posted by LemonMeringue:
I feel like debtor's knell is awesome, but probably just because the last 3 games somebody played it, they followed it up with obliterate immediately :|

Yeah, I love how those big red sweepers don't kill enchanments or planeswalkers.

I find the politics in multiplayer games boring. Mostly because I'm often on the bad end of it. People will ignore Mister Ramp but they will go after the deck with islands or swamps or something.

 
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Originally posted by oneofchaos:
It can't be a CCG if wizards is getting reprint crazy tho. It's evolved into a TCG.

They aren't reprinting everything. They are trying to keep Modern healthy and affordable. It's not like Tarmogoyf is going from 80 to 20 with the reprint. It will only see a small drop. WOTC is trying to limit the amount of product made with reprints, so the older cards will hold most of their value for collectors. The DCI ONS Fetchlands hurt the original foils a little, but then they bounced back and are higher than ever today. Some collectors will also want the new Tarmogoyf. WOTC isn't Upper Deck.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
But those are the cards that I like to play.

A lot of people who are casually competitive players subscribe to the notion that being in second place is the best position in an EDH game. Those players win a lot of games, but they're not doing it the right way. What kind of player seriously tries to just be in 2nd place the whole time? It's conducive to winning drawn out games, but it's seriously lame.

My main general is Heartless Hidetsugu. He paints a huge target on my head and I don't care because he is awesome! Even if I lose, I plan on doing something awesome! And if I lose, I plan on making the games short so I can hop right back in! I'd rather push the action and force engagements than sit back. I still plan to win, but winning because of politics and sitting back while everyone else is actually playing stuff isn't my style. I still win most of the games when I play Heartless, so it's been working.

My question on Grave Betrayal is b/c Debtor's Knell is a card that seems awesome but really isn't nearly as awesome as it seems.


I play EDH to have a fun time not to win. Doing silly stuff is hilarious. People who play do nothing decks usually put a target on there head in our playgroup. I have a blood feud with sensei's divining top in edh. You play it i kill you first no matter how ahead or behind you get don't play that card.

Also we had a post for EDH stuff we should probably move the EDH discussions there

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quote:
Originally posted by stu55:
I can't believe (ok, I mean I can) there is an actual thread on salvation, bashing collectors, even though this game is a CCG...wow

link?

 
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I assume stu is talking about THIS THREAD.
 
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Wow. All I read in that was a bunch of people whining, "Wah, Wizards should give me free cards!" That's a good reminder of why I'm not on Sally.

I'm all for reprints, as making cards readily available is good for the health of the game. But if you can't afford to play eternal, too effing bad. Nobody actually cares if you can't afford your Tarmogoyfs.

 
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I read as far as the guy who said he'd be ok spending $1,000 on a deck and then be ok with the deck dropping to $300 if some of the cards are reprinted....

If hes has enough money that he doesn't care about loosing $700 why he complaning about the price of cards in the first place?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Timmyhill:
I read as far as the guy who said he'd be ok spending $1,000 on a deck and then be ok with the deck dropping to $300 if some of the cards are reprinted....

If hes has enough money that he doesn't care about loosing $700 why he complaning about the price of cards in the first place?


Because price of cards and availability is what is going to kill Legacy. That's my main thing, personally.

The problem isn't collectors. I'm a collector. The money I make is just a side thing. I don't give a rat's ass about the value of the cards in my collection. If I cared, I wouldn't be sitting on pieces of cardboard.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mr.C on November 13, 2012]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.C:
Because price of cards and availability is what is going to kill Legacy. That's my main thing, personally.

The problem isn't collectors. I'm a collector. The money I make is just a side thing. I don't give a rat's ass about the value of the cards in my collection. If I cared, I wouldn't be sitting on pieces of cardboard.


Legacy is perfectly fine, only major staples on the reserved list are duals, and between Alpha, Beta, Unlimited,Revised, FBB in multiple languages, FWB in multiple languages there are more out there than people think. Look at the SCG top 16 every week you find a good diversity of decks which usually means healthy format, modern looks healthy as well, but legacy will be fine as long as it is supported by SCG or someone of the like if SCG is ever silly enough to drop it someone else will pick it up.

 

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