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Topic: The Post For Magic Stuff #74
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Mr.C Member
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posted October 31, 2012 01:55 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by Volcanon: All the better to not sell local and not meet buyers in your own home. Craigslist buyers I meet outside my building in a public place.
I just don't sell on CL. Too much hassle for peanuts.
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Volcanon Member
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posted October 31, 2012 02:31 PM

quote: Originally posted by Mr.C: I just don't sell on CL. Too much hassle for peanuts.
I made like $500 off bulk garbage commons on CL last year. How much did I make on MOTL or from local brick n' mortar stores off bulk garbage commons? One guess.
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yakusoku Member
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posted October 31, 2012 02:51 PM

quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: TBH I'd probably send something extra to the guy willing to work with you, and just 1x copy to the guy who said oh well....but that's just me....
Part of me would like to mail out 1x Clifftop Retreat to everyone, but I'll eat it for my mistake and just be a little bit bitter for awhile. I thanked the one guy and he's already getting a 50% discount on Clifftop Retreats, so I'm reluctant to give him an additional break. Also, I got this today: quote: Winning bidder:
The description indicated four copies of the card so I knew what I was bidding on. My intention is to complete the transaction as such.
I guess it feels good to stick it to the Man.
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OGB Member
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posted October 31, 2012 02:57 PM

quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: This is awesome"Turn 1: I played Dryad Militant; he played Azorius Guildgate. Turn 2: I played second Plains, double Ethereal Armored my Dryad, and attacked for six; opponent played Mountain. Turn 3: I double Ethereal Armored again and attacked for eighteen." That is what Ari Lax did at the GP.
The other day I had a Fencing Ace with triple Ethereal Armor. A 10/10 double striker. The Selesnya Charm giving it +2/+2 and trample was the icing on the cake.  __________________ 2010 Homer Simpson Award Winnerhttp://www.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum12/HTML/016901.html
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Mr.C Member
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posted October 31, 2012 03:27 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by yakusoku: Part of me would like to mail out 1x Clifftop Retreat to everyone, but I'll eat it for my mistake and just be a little bit bitter for awhile. I thanked the one guy and he's already getting a 50% discount on Clifftop Retreats, so I'm reluctant to give him an additional break.Also, I got this today: I guess it feels good to stick it to the Man.
Chalk it up as a loss, pay more attention next time. Not much you can do.
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choco man Member
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posted October 31, 2012 05:35 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: TBH I'd probably send something extra to the guy willing to work with you, and just 1x copy to the guy who said oh well....but that's just me....
Wouldn't there be a paypal dispute in that case? Those disputes normally don't side favorably with sellers.
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Lord Crovax Member
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posted October 31, 2012 05:43 PM

quote: Originally posted by choco man: Wouldn't there be a paypal dispute in that case? Those disputes normally don't side favorably with sellers.
Meh, title says one thing description another...and my whole point on that was the guys attitude...the whole oh well I know I'll win....just makes me not want to send him anything is all.. Any case, things like this are why you double and triple check before posting... __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
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oneofchaos Member
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posted October 31, 2012 06:48 PM

quote: Originally posted by yakusoku:
I guess it feels good to stick it to the Man.
FWIW, those people should have pointed or asked and inquired about what it really was. I've emailed about discrepancies. They actually happen! You could always say you typo'd the 4 and that you only have one for each action. But then again, seeing as how I had that happen to me and I understood it (but wasn't terribly happy) but I understood it. As a man of math and science, fully aware that you'll have to pay with either extra cards or negative feedback, hedge your bets and send out half full playset, and other half not full playsets. You won't be out too much feedback or cash vs. your alternative!
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yakusoku Member
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posted October 31, 2012 07:21 PM

quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: FWIW, those people should have pointed or asked and inquired about what it really was.
Perhaps, but I think that most of them knew exactly what was happening and didn't want to rock the boat. If they point out the mistake, I might fix it and they lose a chance to pick up cards on the cheap. It's a moot point now as they're mailed out and I'm just going to place all the blame on myself for not double and triple checking each of the auctions. I was trying to sell about 50 cards all at once and hastily went through creating the auctions. Add on the fact that the eBay form was giving me the same error every time, requiring me to fill out the information twice and my patience grew very thin very quickly. Still, I should have gone back and made sure everything was correct and the eBay representative did have a point that maybe the format I used leaves me open to this kind of problem and I'd be better off making the quantity available in the auction four, rather than selling a set of four. quote:
You could always say you typo'd the 4
I sent out an e-mail to all the buyers that it was a mistake, but one isn't saying anything and two are holding me to the set of four explicitly. I'd rather not deal with negative feedback and claims and disputes through eBay/Paypal, so I'll just go back to doing things one at a time and more slowly. The odds that I make the same typo five times in a row are much lower that way.
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oneofchaos Member
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posted October 31, 2012 07:32 PM

quote: Originally posted by yakusoku: Perhaps, but I think that most of them knew exactly what was happening and didn't want to rock the boat. If they point out the mistake, I might fix it and they lose a chance to pick up cards on the cheap.
If companies can back out of selling cards with no consequence, don't understand why you couldn't. Nonetheless props to being a great guy. Not saying I would reneg given your situation. For all practical purposes, lets consider the auction described with the 1) title, 2) a picture, 3) the description. If all 3 match up I think it's clear cut. If you list 1 clifftop and have a picture of 4, and the description is a 1 (which I've won many auctions knowing i'd get one card...) then that's fairly easy. Having the title and the picture match and the description not matching implies that you made a mistake in my opinion, or the picture would contain four cards. Edit: What is a box of champions going to actually run me? I can find plenty of betrayers/saviors, but no COK.
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rats60 Member
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posted November 01, 2012 08:20 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: What is a box of champions going to actually run me? I can find plenty of betrayers/saviors, but no COK.
250
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T-O-N Member
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posted November 01, 2012 11:17 AM
  
If I was to sell a few hundred cards for a couple of friends, with a value per card between 5 and 60 bucks, how much should I ask % wise for the work? Nothing stands out much, but many cards would be interesting for the EDH crowd.__________________
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Volcanon Member
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posted November 01, 2012 11:31 AM

quote: Originally posted by T-O-N: If I was to sell a few hundred cards for a couple of friends, with a value per card between 5 and 60 bucks, how much should I ask % wise for the work? Nothing stands out much, but many cards would be interesting for the EDH crowd.
20%. They would still get less from a store and that's what you'd get from ebay after all of the fees and whatnot.
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airwalk Member
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posted November 01, 2012 01:59 PM

quote: Originally posted by AGO: 4 High Tide 4 Cloud of Faeries 4 Snap 4 Frantic Search 4 Merchant Scroll 4 Accumulated Knowledge 4 Ponder 4 Preordain 4 Impulse 4 Ideas Unbound 1 Compulsive Research 1 Capsize 2 Mnemonic Wall 16 IslandsThis was my pauper deck. I think Frantic Search is now banned or something. It was fun to play while I had it.
quote: Originally posted by Link139232: I designed that deck.But I developed the UG version that used a ton of land enchantments. I then developed the esper version with the Familiars, still using Temporal Fissure as the win condition. So, you can thank me for the banning of Frantic Search. The deck still works though, with that avacyn restored card that flickers two creatures or whatever.

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choco man Member
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posted November 02, 2012 12:10 AM
  
Has anyone been to Gatecrash PTQ's? What is normal entry fees?
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flophaus Member
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posted November 02, 2012 12:24 AM

quote: Originally posted by yakusoku: It's a moot point now as they're mailed out and I'm just going to place all the blame on myself for not double and triple checking each of the auctions.
You're a stand-up guy... and yeah being one can suck when you make an error, but you have karma on your side for owning your mistake. It sucks, I know, but I guess you can just chalk it up as being a "life-lesson". Once again though, I commend you for just biting the bullet. Who wants a bunch of negative feedback anyways? Anymore on eBay you have to pretty much have 100% positive and give the buyer a reach-around to be on their good side. Sorry that happened though, bro.
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skizzikmonger Member
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posted November 02, 2012 04:03 AM

quote: Originally posted by choco man: Has anyone been to Gatecrash PTQ's? What is normal entry fees?
The one that's in Denver this Saturday is $35, so I'm guessing they'll all be around that price.
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Bagbokk Member
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posted November 02, 2012 04:45 AM

quote: I'd rather not deal with negative feedback and claims and disputes through eBay/Paypal, so I'll just go back to doing things one at a time and more slowly.
I understand not wanting to deal with negative feedback, but if you just refunded their money then there aren't any disputes or claims they can make. eBay simply never does anything other than refund the full amount of the purchase price plus shipping anyway (which led me to get screwed out of 4 Jace, AOT preorders, which I got at $20/ea but seller decided not to send, probably in part because they were $35/ea by that time) so the only real result is negative feedback. Still sucks, and perhaps not worth it for ultimately $45 in cards, but it might be if this was a bigger mistake.
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T-O-N Member
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posted November 02, 2012 09:30 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by Volcanon: 20%. They would still get less from a store and that's what you'd get from ebay after all of the fees and whatnot.
Thanks. At first I thought more around 25%-30%, given that I'd do everything from listing/grading/pricing to shipping and accounting, and hand them the cash afterwards. Still, it's their cards too. I'll see what they think about this. __________________
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choco man Member
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posted November 02, 2012 12:55 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by skizzikmonger: The one that's in Denver this Saturday is $35, so I'm guessing they'll all be around that price.
for some reason the one here is $45 and the prize payout won't be RtR product but "good" Modern cards which haven't been specified yet. pretty sure everyone would rather have a $100 box than $100 in retail worth of singles.
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Dimh Member
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posted November 02, 2012 01:18 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by choco man: for some reason the one here is $45 and the prize payout won't be RtR product but "good" Modern cards which haven't been specified yet.pretty sure everyone would rather have a $100 box than $100 in retail worth of singles.
Sounds like a shady TO. Kansas City last weekend was $30 entry, payouts in RTR to 5-2 and higher. <3 Feral Events
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WeedIan Member
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posted November 02, 2012 05:02 PM
  
Super grumpy, local store wanted $225 plus tax for Commander's Arsenal.I was expecting him to be somewhat reasonable and charge double MSRP plus tax (which still would be over $170). I'm genuinely upset that they did this. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 2nd in posts in Canada 10th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
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nailbunny7 Member
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posted November 02, 2012 05:21 PM

quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: Super grumpy, local store wanted $225 plus tax for Commander's Arsenal.I was expecting him to be somewhat reasonable and charge double MSRP plus tax (which still would be over $170). I'm genuinely upset that they did this.
We have 5 different lgs' here that sold for 225 each, and they are all already gone. Except the ones that the stores were doing a local auction for. I think those are above 225 right now.
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iccarus Member
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posted November 02, 2012 05:22 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: Super grumpy, local store wanted $225 plus tax for Commander's Arsenal.I was expecting him to be somewhat reasonable and charge double MSRP plus tax (which still would be over $170). I'm genuinely upset that they did this.
Closest store was starting them at $250, so I feel you pain. I've pretty much written off this product as something I'm not going to have. I might seek out a couple of the single cards, but I will be no means actively going after them. __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air!I collect Granite Gargoyles. Send them my way.
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revenger Member
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posted November 02, 2012 05:34 PM
  
Vinnie + Icy. The good ole days. __________________ Motl member since November 1, 2000Your 2008 & 2010 Siskel & Ebert award winner! 32nd in refs on Motl! #1 Ref's for Arizona!
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