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stab107 Member	posted October 27, 2012 07:22 AM Triple Zendikar had landfall going for it but once you figured out that the player who drafted the most two drops would usually win it got a bit stale. I do enjoy the contrast in speed between Zendikar and RoE limited. The Defender deck in RoE was sweet! Shards boxes can be had for about $180, correct? Looking for a box shipped to Canuckistan is I can find one.
JoshSherman Member	posted October 27, 2012 07:27 AM Check out my trade auction if you want a foil detention sphere and have crap rares from my list for it. Yes, there are real crap rares on it. I'm wondering if 40 rares was too low to start out. I'm hoping to get 50 for it. That's 12.50 at a quarter apiece. __________________ My LJLetter Bombs!FacebookLogout- I had it second!*CKGB [Edited 2 times, lastly by JoshSherman on October 27, 2012]
Bagbokk Member	posted October 28, 2012 04:53 PM Is Jace AOT being played in anything other than Standard right now? I don't keep up with the other formats, but the answer is relevant to my interests. [Edited 1 times, lastly by Bagbokk on October 28, 2012]
WeedIan Member	posted October 28, 2012 05:16 PM quote: Originally posted by Bagbokk: Is Jace AOT being played in anything other than Standard right now? I don't keep up with the other formats, but the answer is relevant to my interests. Not as of yet no. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 2nd in posts in Canada 10th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
oneofchaos Member	posted October 28, 2012 06:33 PM quote: Originally posted by caquaa: ravnica block 3x zendikar 3x shards of alara Lorwyn + morningtide those were the sets i had some of the most fun drafting. big problem is that older boxes aren't cheap. If they're willing to put up a few extra bucks, it can be worth while. Thanks. Most of the people started playing zendikar onwards, so I was debating going retro and considering onslaught or odyssey or invasion or like champions.
caquaa Member	posted October 28, 2012 07:29 PM I remember invasion being super sweet, but that was certainly relative. If you draft older formats like that it just seems terrible these days because the creatures are just so inefficient. If people can get over that, then invasion would be fun for sure, but I did find it difficult to enjoy drafting the last time I drafted w/ some older sets. Invasion isn't too bad because everything in multicolored, hence often lower mana cost, but still...
ryan2754 Member	posted October 28, 2012 07:51 PM IPA was great for me. After that RGD. TSP/PLC/FUT was legit too.
Volcanon Member	posted October 28, 2012 08:14 PM quote: Originally posted by ryan2754: IPA was great for me. After that RGD. TSP/PLC/FUT was legit too. I enjoyed Mirage, Saga, Invasion, Onslaught, Mirrodin, Kamigawa (Champions ONLY, not the two awful expansions), Ravnica, Time Spiral, Shadowmoor, Zendikar, RoE, Innistrad, and RtR. So basically I didn't enjoy Tempest, Masques, Odyssey, Coldsnap, Lorwyn, Shards, Scars and Avacyn. And Unhinged, because people I played with were jerks. As for core sets, Xth and M10 are good. M12 and M13 sucks. Never played with M11. 8E and 9E were -okay-. Earlier ones are overly bland. Portal sets draft just like coresets - even P3K is really pretty boring. Masters Editions (online reprint sets): 1 and 2 terrible. ME3 was actually pretty fun. Rawr smash with 8 mana 5/5s and stuff. ME4 was decent.
Vegas10 Member	posted October 28, 2012 09:01 PM quote: Originally posted by Volcanon: I enjoyed Mirage, Saga, Invasion, Onslaught, Mirrodin, Kamigawa (Champions ONLY, not the two awful expansions), Ravnica, Time Spiral, Shadowmoor, Zendikar, RoE, Innistrad, and RtR. So basically I didn't enjoy Tempest, Masques, Odyssey, Coldsnap, Lorwyn, Shards, Scars and Avacyn. And Unhinged, because people I played with were jerks. As for core sets, Xth and M10 are good. M12 and M13 sucks. Never played with M11. 8E and 9E were -okay-. Earlier ones are overly bland. Portal sets draft just like coresets - even P3K is really pretty boring. Masters Editions (online reprint sets): 1 and 2 terrible. ME3 was actually pretty fun. Rawr smash with 8 mana 5/5s and stuff. ME4 was decent. Tripple Kamigawa was a very good draft format, however betrayers and saviors mad the format much worse
AlmostGrown Member	posted October 28, 2012 10:16 PM I'm liking 3x RTR right now, and am excited for 3x GTC __________________ Check out the greatest store in Southeastern Pennsylvania: Stomping Grounds Games & Hobbies! www.sggamesandhobbies.com Serra Angel Count: 1003 Nightmare Count: 245 DCI Judge Level 1 PlasteredDragon - Gone but not forgotten
Volcanon Member	posted October 28, 2012 10:28 PM quote: Originally posted by Vegas10: Tripple Kamigawa was a very good draft format, however betrayers and saviors mad the format much worse Exactly. CCB was still okay (though Jitte was just stupid). Saviors was just inexcusably bad. CCC has the kind of magic I like, where often you win through incremental bonuses instead of the big meaty haymakers that scream "I WIN RIGHT NOW" that you see in a lot of modern formats.
oneofchaos Member	posted October 28, 2012 10:50 PM I can't afford to go out and buy a box of set x+y+z atm, so I'm just gonna go with a base set for the time being. I started in Odyssey so getting invasion will be a time capsule kind of treat for me. The popular opinion is that they'd want to try to spend 15 or less on the draft if possible, so that limits my ability on buying boxes, but we'll see.
Vegas10 Member	posted October 29, 2012 05:16 AM quote: Originally posted by Volcanon: Exactly. CCB was still okay (though Jitte was just stupid). Saviors was just inexcusably bad. CCC has the kind of magic I like, where often you win through incremental bonuses instead of the big meaty haymakers that scream "I WIN RIGHT NOW" that you see in a lot of modern formats. Agree, but just like every format it had it's bombs to just not as many, plus most of them were high casting cost meaning a good aggro deck without bombs had a good shot to race it. And yeah if soneone had a jitte after betrayers came in, it was dumb.
stab107 Member	posted October 29, 2012 05:23 AM quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: I can't afford to go out and buy a box of set x+y+z atm, so I'm just gonna go with a base set for the time being. I started in Odyssey so getting invasion will be a time capsule kind of treat for me. The popular opinion is that they'd want to try to spend 15 or less on the draft if possible, so that limits my ability on buying boxes, but we'll see. You can pick up boxes of ZEN for $160ish and RoE for $180ish. At $5 a pack ($210 a box) you have a decent range to work with. Now I buy an extra box of every format that I enjoyed so that a few years down the line we can draft them again. It's a lot cheaper to buy them when in print, obviously.
bushe Member	posted October 29, 2012 07:08 AM quote: Originally posted by Vegas10: Agree, but just like every format it had it's bombs to just not as many, plus most of them were high casting cost meaning a good aggro deck without bombs had a good shot to race it. And yeah if soneone had a jitte after betrayers came in, it was dumb. I really liked CCB with the one card exception. Basically jitte then was akin to pack rats now in that the format is pretty great but there is one rare that is just dumb and requires immediate answer or crazy luck in order to beat. Betrayers added the ninjas which played so well with the bushido guys that you didn't want to block (saviors was totally horrible though, there is a consensus on that). I would say champions is probably one of my top 5 draft formats ever. 3x Innistrad is my all time fave though. That set was just amazing in drafts. There was such variety. I will agree with caquaa that I hated Rise of the Eldrazi limited. The reason was that the first like 5 turns of the game didn't matter. You had to wait so long to start playing and attacking before turn 8 was a suckers bet. That and the fact that it also suffered from the "we want to have a ton of giant creatures (so we will print no removal)" phenomenon like restored. I like formats where you have the question, "Can I surrender the early game to bomb out the late game?" No deck in rise was very good at putting a clock on someone so that wasn't a question. Therefore when drafting it was "what strategy am I? I will take the best card, damn the costs!" And my deck with 12 cards that cost 5+ will be nigh unstoppable!
walkerdog Member	posted October 29, 2012 07:16 AM One problem with sets prior to... was it TPF? Or LLM? anyway, they got rid of stacking dmg, which was where much of the utility/awesomeness of quite a few cards came from back then, so you may want to consider implementing stacking damage for older sets. Otherwise, they can be somewhat less fun than they were at the time. Not a huge thing, but something to consider.
walkerdog Member	posted October 29, 2012 07:20 AM quote: Originally posted by bushe: I really liked CCB with the one card exception. Basically jitte then was akin to pack rats now in that the format is pretty great but there is one rare that is just dumb and requires immediate answer or crazy luck in order to beat. Betrayers added the ninjas which played so well with the bushido guys that you didn't want to block (saviors was totally horrible though, there is a consensus on that). I would say champions is probably one of my top 5 draft formats ever. 3x Innistrad is my all time fave though. That set was just amazing in drafts. There was such variety. I will agree with caquaa that I hated Rise of the Eldrazi limited. The reason was that the first like 5 turns of the game didn't matter. You had to wait so long to start playing and attacking before turn 8 was a suckers bet. That and the fact that it also suffered from the "we want to have a ton of giant creatures (so we will print no removal)" phenomenon like restored. I like formats where you have the question, "Can I surrender the early game to bomb out the late game?" No deck in rise was very good at putting a clock on someone so that wasn't a question. Therefore when drafting it was "what strategy am I? I will take the best card, damn the costs!" And my deck with 12 cards that cost 5+ will be nigh unstoppable! I'm not sure how much you played ROE, but there were decks that could kill on T5/6... RB and RG tokens SMASHHHHHHH, and a decent UW or UB levelers draw would be close to that (the actual kill might wait a turn or two, but you were functionally dead by turn 5/6).
nderdog Moderator	posted October 29, 2012 07:43 AM I'm trying to pick a deck for Modern to prep for the Portland GP. I love Jund, as it fits my playstyle very well. Is there any point in even trying, though, if I have 0 Tarmogoyf? __________________ There's no need to fear, UNDERDOG is here! All your Gruul Nodorogs are belong to me. Trade them to me, please! Report rules violations. Remember the Auctions Board!
gaeacradle Member	posted October 29, 2012 07:54 AM quote: Originally posted by nderdog: I'm trying to pick a deck for Modern to prep for the Portland GP. I love Jund, as it fits my playstyle very well. Is there any point in even trying, though, if I have 0 Tarmogoyf? Play Infect!!!
Absurd90 Member	posted October 29, 2012 09:44 AM quote: Originally posted by nderdog: I'm trying to pick a deck for Modern to prep for the Portland GP. I love Jund, as it fits my playstyle very well. Is there any point in even trying, though, if I have 0 Tarmogoyf? Go bigger with Knight of the Reliquaries
WeedIan Member	posted October 29, 2012 11:31 AM Do reasonable priced magic the gathering clothing like the following exist? A shirt as such for $35 does not seem reasonable to me http://www.ebay.ca/itm/Black-Mana-T-shirt-Swamp-Magic-Gathering-1630-/260825381066?pt=UK_Girls_Tops&var=&hash=item82650248ec __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 2nd in posts in Canada 10th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
marriedwithchildren Member	posted October 29, 2012 12:11 PM Your best bet is to find someone locally that makes tshirts and have them make one for you. A friend does MMA and had 2 dozen made for one of his matches cost like $12 each if I remember right.
harbingerofthevoid Member	posted October 29, 2012 12:17 PM http://www.zazzle.ca http://www.dafont.com/planewalker.font Your choice of shirt would be the determining factor.
airwalk Member	posted October 29, 2012 05:23 PM Shirts are dirt cheap to have made locally, $12/shirt even seems expensive. I think I got them for like $7 a shirt last time I organized a pub crawl. The more colors the more expensive, so a black mana symbol would be the cheapest and a full picture of jace might be a bit more.
marriedwithchildren Member	posted October 29, 2012 07:48 PM Yeah, the more print the more $. He had designs on front and back. He wanted the "Tap Out" logo but due to copyright he couldn't use the "exact" logo. No biggie though they slightly changed it to get around those pesky laws.

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