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Lord Crovax
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quote:
Originally posted by ryan2754:
if multiple creatures with extort are on the battlefield, when you play a spell, does each one trigger independantly? So if I have 2 creatures with extort, i play spell, pay 1 for each - is it 2 life lost and you gain 2?


Yea, each creature/permanent will trigger separately allowing you to pay B/W for each trigger.

Why everyone hopes for a 1cc or 2cc card with Extort, so they can get multiples on the field and just drain you out.

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Sunhome Guildmage is pretty cool. I loved Selesnya Guildmage, and he's one of my favorite cards of all time. Sunhome isn't as good, but still gets the job done I think.
 
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I want Signal the Clans!!!
 
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So Mind Grind for is Mind Funeral for 6 mana, seems somewhat underwhelming. Could be a finisher in UB perhaps.

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Lord Crovax
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quote:
Originally posted by MagicPatty:
So Mind Grind for is Mind Funeral for 6 mana, seems somewhat underwhelming. Could be a finisher in UB perhaps.


It's so a EDH card....:P

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I'm loving some of these Dimir Cards.

Between Dimir Charm and Mind Grind I really want to put together a deck with four Ghost Quarters just to grind them out faster. It probably would be a turd, but it's one of those things that would be too fun not to try.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MagicPatty:
So Mind Grind for is Mind Funeral for 6 mana, seems somewhat underwhelming. Could be a finisher in UB perhaps.


In 4-player EDH, Mind Grind is THREE Mind Funerals, for 6 mana, in one card.

 
Mr.C
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quote:
Originally posted by Devonin:
In 4-player EDH, Mind Grind is THREE Mind Funerals, for 6 mana, in one card.

Doesn't change that mill is not really good in multiplayer EDH.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.C:
Doesn't change that mill is not really good in multiplayer EDH.

*Currently.

Considering how popular the strategy is and Wizards' recognition of other formats, I think there'll come a day when mill is strong enough for multiplayer EDH.

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Devonin
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Never said mill was good in EDH, I just said that there are situations where Mind Grind is better than Mind Funeral.

I still think it's sad that in 80% of all games of magic, it's a 6cc rare that duplicates a 3cc uncommon.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Devonin on January 07, 2013]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Devonin:
Never said mill was good in EDH, I just said that there are situations where Mind Grind is better than Mind Funeral.

I still think it's sad that in 80% of all games of magic, it's a 6cc rare that duplicates a 3cc uncommon.


And if it were the other way round, people would bitch about the fact that one card is strictly better than another card simply because it's rare and the other one is uncommon.

 
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Anybody that complains that a rare card is strictly better than an uncommon one just doesn't know what words mean.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Devonin:
Anybody that complains that a rare card is strictly better than an uncommon one just doesn't know what words mean.

Then define mythic for me? jk

 
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Mythic means worthy of myth, of being the kind of thing of legendary scope, size or import.

In fact, most of the "good" mythics aren't mythical at all. I preferred it back when the assumption was that mythic rares were going to be very large, expensive, splashy spells and creatures.

The very thing that makes something actually mythical is the thing that makes it a 2 dollar jank card to people who play competitively.

 
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Hah!

Mythic means better than a rare and having a bigger impact in the game, there for being more sought after. Obviously!

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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
I'm loving some of these Dimir Cards.

Between Dimir Charm and Mind Grind I really want to put together a deck with four Ghost Quarters just to grind them out faster. It probably would be a turd, but it's one of those things that would be too fun not to try.


You should. I played mill almost a year ago at a peasant Legacy tourney (my report is still on here somewhere), and had a blast although going 1-4 (could be better). With all the new cards coming out I can't wait to rebuild it and go again!

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daner
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All I ask for is one good 2cmc spell for my esper walker deck that slows down standard. The dimir charm I had higher hopes for :/ ....hopes now lie with orzhov charm, or something else. Stupid priest card. Should have cost 1bw and was straight vindicate on a stick.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
Stupid priest card. Should have cost 1bw and was straight vindicate on a stick.

Not sure if joking ...

I'm not okay with that in a standard format that also includes Cloudshift and Restoration Angel. For a creature with that ETB trigger to be the least bit fair in standard I think it would have to cost at least 5.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
Not sure if joking ...

I'm not okay with that in a standard format that also includes Cloudshift and Restoration Angel. For a creature with that ETB trigger to be the least bit fair in standard I think it would have to cost at least 5.


Necrotic Sliver is 3 to cast, 3 to activate, but with a better body. Back when modern was just announced, I was playing around with Sun Titan decks that would recur necrotic sliver and some other deadguy ale stuff.

 
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Rubblebelt Raiders
1{R/G}{R/G}{R/G}
Creature - Human Warrior
Whenever Rubblebelt Raiders attacks, put
a +1/+1 counter on it for each attacking
creature you control.
3/3

Is it just me, or is Gruul looking like the only good guild in this set so far?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Rubblebelt Raiders
1{R/G}{R/G}{R/G}
Creature - Human Warrior
Whenever Rubblebelt Raiders attacks, put
a +1/+1 counter on it for each attacking
creature you control.
3/3

Is it just me, or is Gruul looking like the only good guild in this set so far?


For limited, sure. Keep in mind that we haven't seen a lot from boros yet. Simic already has 3 cards that look constructed playable at some point (new pongify immediately, unblockable evolver likely after rotation, and the draining whelk counterspell at some point if the meta allows for it).

I'm actually quite glad I haven't ordered a box for GTC though. Too many overcosted EDH treats.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Rubblebelt Raiders
1{R/G}{R/G}{R/G}
Creature - Human Warrior
Whenever Rubblebelt Raiders attacks, put
a +1/+1 counter on it for each attacking
creature you control.
3/3

Is it just me, or is Gruul looking like the only good guild in this set so far?


OMG, I'm in love with that art, if any1 knows where I can find a hi-def image of mr. Chippy's art LMK!

~Myy

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
Not sure if joking ...

I'm not okay with that in a standard format that also includes Cloudshift and Restoration Angel. For a creature with that ETB trigger to be the least bit fair in standard I think it would have to cost at least 5.


No, I'm NOT joking. The card should Read.....

B/W 1/1 When this is dealt damage, Vindicate. Screw This non-land BS. This card sucks outside of limited. There are enough non-damage removal spells that this card could have been strickly Vindicate against burn decks or decks that just wanna ram creatures into this. Doesn't really punish a player if all the do is play a Thragtusk and ram in into your 1/1. Now if they could lose a land you'd think twice about it.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by daner:
No, I'm NOT joking. The card should Read.....

B/W 1/1 When this is dealt damage, Vindicate. Screw This non-land BS. This card sucks outside of limited. There are enough non-damage removal spells that this card could have been strickly Vindicate against burn decks or decks that just wanna ram creatures into this. Doesn't really punish a player if all the do is play a Thragtusk and ram in into your 1/1. Now if they could lose a land you'd think twice about it.


I thought you wanted an enter-the-battlefield trigger instead of the current trigger and you wanted the ability to target land. I didn't realize all you wanted was to target land.

[Edited 2 times, lastly by Pail42 on January 08, 2013]

 
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Frontline Medic
2W
Creature - Human Cleric
Battalion - Whenever Frontline Medic and at least
two other creatures attack, creatures you control
are indestructible this turn.
Sacrifice Frontline Medic: Counter target spell with
X in its mana cost unless its controller pays 3.
3/3

A 3/3 for 3 with a decent ability. Not bad.

 

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