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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
I do like Five-Alarm as well, stocking up on it as well...

Also Blind is only 1.99 and I have stocked up...

Also curious as to your justification for it being unplayable? It's not a dead draw in multiples due to Extort, and has a major impact on many decks in many formats.

1W

Enchantment

Opp creatures and artifacts enter tapped
Extort

That's really good. Not sure how anyone could call in unplayable.

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Originally posted by marlo213:
You may break even at 2, but I doubt it. Good luck though

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What the hell are you even talking about? Let me guess your in the camp of "If it doesn't have a immediate impact it's trash" camp?

Which makes no sense given you stated you like a 1RR enchantment that requires 5 things to hit before having a effect..

Last I checked control wants to slow the game down, this does that, it also happens to keep flashed in angels from blocking, and stops haste dead in its tracks, and that's just standard.

Extort just adds icing to the cake, allowing you to funnel a extra mana per spell for a 2 point swing....

I don't see how it's even remotely unplayable, nor do I see how it can be judged by breaking even.

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Originally posted by marlo213:
You may break even at 2, but I doubt it. Good luck though

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Did you just claim that Blind Obedience is unplayable??? If so you may want to rethink this claim, as it's VERY VERY good, and a staple either Main or SB in Legacy/Modern/Standard.

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It doesn't look all that useful in Legacy, where its main effects are against Sneak Attack, Top [sort of] (oh nose!), artifact mana, Elves, and Affinity. The Extort feature is nice, but doesn't seem all that useful against the decks listed above. Since Root Maze itself doesn't see play, and since this doesn't really seem like an improvement on Root Maze, I'm not convinced.

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Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:
It doesn't look all that useful in Legacy, where its main effects are against Sneak Attack, Top [sort of] (oh nose!), artifact mana, Elves, and Affinity. The Extort feature is nice, but doesn't seem all that useful against the decks listed above. Since Root Maze itself doesn't see play, and since this doesn't really seem like an improvement on Root Maze, I'm not convinced.

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for Legacy I was looking at Enchantress, seems something they might like.

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
for Legacy I was looking at Enchantress, seems something they might like.

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Ah. That's actually probably the best place for it, you're right. It potentially slows combo enough (slash skews the life totals enough) for Enchantress to catch up, and it's a decent alternate win condition. 'Course, it's not like Enchantress is low on win conditions.

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Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:
Ah. That's actually probably the best place for it, you're right. It potentially slows combo enough (slash skews the life totals enough) for Enchantress to catch up, and it's a decent alternate win condition. 'Course, it's not like Enchantress is low on win conditions.

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Yea, just comes down to testing, and see what works best, otherwise it's a fringe SB card in other decks, again based on whatever play testing shows.

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Originally posted by daner:
You think Blind Obedience is unplayable, yet you think Five-Alarm Fire is good? Right.

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Originally posted by marlo213:
I would school you on the matter, but it ain't free. Send a $50 my way and I will more than happy to explain it to you

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lol...wow....actually...just wow.

I'll let someone else take this one, don't think I have the skill to respond without getting a karma smack.

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
for Legacy I was looking at Enchantress, seems something they might like.

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Ditto, I was hoping for Hybrid B/W CC so that I might try it out in MonoB Pox as well.

For GWx Enchantress, it has a board effect unlike WoW but, it's going to take some playing with to see if the 1 for 1 swing is better than the 2 damage. It doesn't prevent decking like WoW and no damage to creatures so it might be a 1 each thing to test out.

If it had been {B/W}, Pox would've loved it.

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Originally posted by daner:
You think Blind Obedience is unplayable, yet you think Five-Alarm Fire is good? Right.

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+1

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Originally posted by marlo213:
I would school you on the matter, but it ain't free. Send a $50 my way and I will more than happy to explain it to you

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I don't think the Bus that takes me to your "school" is long enough. I'd assume rather it's too short.

Yet, you keep having fun and try to stay in the lines when coloring!

I'll just go back to pointing out you think a 3 mama enchantment, that does NOTHING by itself, and something has to happen 5 times(and is easily prevented) before it goes off is good?

1.Red/Aggro decks don't want a 3 drop do-nothing.
2.Red/Aggro decks can kill without it.

Like LC said, Obedience does something, and in multiples isn't a blank.

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Originally posted by daner:
I don't think the Bus that takes me to your "school" is long enough. I'd assume rather it's too short.

Yet, you keep having fun and try to stay in the lines when coloring!

I'll just go back to pointing out you think a 3 mama enchantment, that does NOTHING by itself, and something has to happen 5 times(and is easily prevented) before it goes off is good?

1.Red/Aggro decks don't want a 3 drop do-nothing.
2.Red/Aggro decks can kill without it.

Like LC said, Obedience does something, and in multiples isn't a blank.

I didn't know it was possible to fail at what school it seems like you go to....but that's fine. Everybody gets a hug.

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Originally posted by Link139232:
+1

But seriously, don't feed the troll.

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