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DConNexus
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 posted November 17, 2012 06:57 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for DConNexus Click Here to Email DConNexus Send a private message to DConNexus Click to send DConNexus an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View DConNexus's Have/Want ListView DConNexus's Have/Want List
http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=137176&d=1353145146

And other spoilers....


http://mtgsalvation.com/gatecrash-spoiler.html

He seems meh. But I really like the new Angel.

 
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That's a lot of mythics. The Angel is pretty sweet, nice Boros card to help you end games. The PW is meh, I think.

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Nothing spectacular.

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DConNexus
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Nothing too exciting yet. I can't wait to see what Dimir brings.
 
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To put on my EDH hat!

Both they cyclops and the angel are sweet. But i'm not happy with another "I win the game card"

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Volcanon
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Actually, Rade looks quite good, especially in a format with Sensei's top.

And hellkite seems good in Jhoira EDH.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Volcanon on November 17, 2012]

 
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New G/R Legend is amazing in EDH as General....play stuff like Life from the Loam in some sort of 40-50 land deck...


Into the Infinite seems made for Legacy Show and Tell decks...

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thror
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Guys, these might not be real.

All planeswalkers printed, to date, have some part of their art extend outside of their art box. Domri does NOT.

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Bugger
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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
Guys, these might not be real.

All planeswalkers printed, to date, have some part of their art extend outside of their art box. Domri does NOT.

Nope. Nissa, DD Garruk, and DD Liliana are all within their frames.

Also, the biggest tell that these are legit? Nobody can find the art for some of them. That's the biggest tell for *any* fake, as it's the hardest to get away with.

also, lol/facepalm at all of the people confused about the second PW being Gruul. "but what about Kiora...?"

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Everything spoiled so far is crap for constructed play. The PW might see play if gatecrash is filled with enough creatures to support his first 2 abilities, but in the world of restoration angel, snapcaster, thragtusk, and GoST, he's got a LOT of work ahead of him.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by DConNexus:
I can't wait to see what Dimir brings.

+1000

 
AGO
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Enter the Infinite + Omniscience = BABOOM!
 
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a good simic legend please
 
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PW seems meh when Ulvenwald tracker already exists
 
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quote:
Originally posted by wayne:
PW seems meh when Ulvenwald tracker already exists

Redudancy is always a good thing. Though, it seems more likely that his -2 will be used with a deathtoucher or a lifelinker as a way to increase the value.

 
daner
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The G/R PW might be REALLY good in formats that contain Brianstorm, Ponder, Top or any other card to manipulate the top of your deck. Then it just becomes Phyrexian Arena minus the loss of life.

There is this thing called RUG I hear....

I'll agree, right now in the Current Standard it's pretty lame.

Pretty good in draft/limited too I might add.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by AGO:
Enter the Infinite + Omniscience = BABOOM!

I think you mean "= you have no win condition and will lose to decking in two turns"

Enter the Infinite is terrible and should only maybe be played in EDH. Otherwise, bulk mythic.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Link139232:
I think you mean "= you have no win condition and will lose to decking in two turns"

What, did you think he meant you play Enter the Infinite before Omniscience? That'd be pretty dumb, yeah.

But legacy Dream halls Omniscience into burning wish into the Infinite into whatever obtuse combo you choose!

 
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No, I meant Omni into Infinite. The card is terrible. It takes up a slot and doesn't do anything without the other. At least Burning Wish can answer a problem, and petals are strictly better as a win condition. Unless you revamp your entire list, enter the losers bracket will leave you without a way to generate 20 storm.

If it becomes popular, which it won't, people will just sideboard into a draw spell like Inspiration.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Link139232:
No, I meant Omni into Infinite. The card is terrible. It takes up a slot and doesn't do anything without the other. At least Burning Wish can answer a problem, and petals are strictly better as a win condition. Unless you revamp your entire list, enter the losers bracket will leave you without a way to generate 20 storm.

If it becomes popular, which it won't, people will just sideboard into a draw spell like Inspiration.

I am unsure if this is sarcasm...I hope it is

 
AGO
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quote:
Originally posted by Link139232:
No, I meant Omni into Infinite. The card is terrible. It takes up a slot and doesn't do anything without the other. At least Burning Wish can answer a problem, and petals are strictly better as a win condition. Unless you revamp your entire list, enter the losers bracket will leave you without a way to generate 20 storm.

If it becomes popular, which it won't, people will just sideboard into a draw spell like Inspiration.


I meant just for casual. No need for such tunnel vision when it comes to card combos.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
I am unsure if this is sarcasm...I hope it is

hahahaha i feel you, was going to reply to it by just assumed the worst and moved on with life

 
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Its not sarcasm, and clearly you don't play competitive legacy if you think it is.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Link139232:
Its not sarcasm, and clearly you don't play competitive legacy if you think it is.

Then clearly you are not very good at competitive Magic if you think you are gonna resolve a spell when I have an omniscience in play and my deck in my hand

 
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I think we have a clear misunderstanding.

Omnitell uses show and tell to resolve Omniscience and cast Burning Wish for petals of insight and generate infinite storm for a grapeshot or tendrils.

Enter the infinite would draw your entire deck, leaving you without the ability to use the petals engine, thus having to play other cards to accumulate storm.

Not to mention.. Most combo decks don't run countermagic.

Therefore, I believe that OmniTell and InfiniteTell are two completely different decks, but I still think that Omnitell is far superior.

 

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