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choco man
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quote:
Originally posted by marlo213:
I don't know, Gideon seems really terrible. He doesn't really protect himself, he's not a guarantee size and his ultimate doesn't give you an advantage. Just seems really bad overall.

The two dimir cards seem neat in casual though


He's still cool.

Old gideon is better, easily. But how cool can you be without an ultimate? Old gideon plus ability is one of the best plus abilities.

 
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Originally posted by choco man:
He's still cool.

Agree. Things can still be cool even if they are bad.

 
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Haven't seen anything other than Clan Defiance Hands of Binding that look playable. The 8 mana/7 mana bloodrush card is just making me ask "why?". I get that they need to design for timmys, but that card is just a waste of a rare slot.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeckk:
Haven't seen anything other than Clan Defiance Hands of Binding that look playable. The 8 mana/7 mana bloodrush card is just making me ask "why?". I get that they need to design for timmys, but that card is just a waste of a rare slot.

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quote:
Originally posted by Zeckk:
Haven't seen anything other than Clan Defiance Hands of Binding that look playable. The 8 mana/7 mana bloodrush card is just making me ask "why?". I get that they need to design for timmys, but that card is just a waste of a rare slot.

I personally don't think that creature is all that bad. Yeah if you just slap it in a random deck its going to be awful. But the fact its a creature with that ability is going to be fun to use in a primal surge ramp deck. My friend made one for standard that may not be the best, but is a lot of fun to play. Skaarg Goliath may be expensive but bloodrush gives a little utility to the card.

I'd agree with you on the waste of a rare slot, but I think having a bunch of these floating around at uncommon in sealed could be annoying.

I'm not trying to be condescending, but i feel like you need to consider the complexity of all formats including casual before saying that none of these cards are playable. I'm pumped to pop several of these cards in as Commanders, and/or toy around with them for casual play.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by mcelraca on January 02, 2013]

 
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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
I'm expecting a cipher mill card, a bounce card, and a draw card to all get printed...and at least one of them will slip past WoTC, have a low CC and be widely used!


I'm thinking, Glimpse the Unthinkable with cypher for 3cmc

 
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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Consuming Aberration
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Creature - Horror
Consuming Aberration's power and toughness
are each equal to the number of cards in your
opponents' graveyards.
Whenever you cast a spell, each opponent
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I am picturing some dumb game of Commander with this next to Lord of Extinction.

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Originally posted by MAB_Rapper:
I am picturing some dumb game of Commander with this next to Lord of Extinction.


Lord of Extinction + Consuming Aberration = hilarious the Mimeoplasm

[Edited 1 times, lastly by choco man on January 02, 2013]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
Agree. Things can still be cool even if they are bad.

QFT. I think he's awesome (not good awesome, cool awesome). Goin right into my esper proliferate planeswalkers/levelers commander deck.

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Sigh.

Skullcrack? Really? How annoying.

 
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Originally posted by Link139232:
Sigh.

Skullcrack? Really? How annoying.


YES!

I called it! Standard is no longer the slowest format ever!

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Originally posted by Link139232:
Sigh.

Skullcrack? Really? How annoying.


Because resto angel + thragtusk wasn't annoying, huh?

Ideally, I want some more creatures like Augur of Bolas. Decently costed card filtering attached to creatures. It's high time red got one that looks specifically for sorceries at 2-3cmc with a decent body.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeckk:
Because resto angel + thragtusk wasn't annoying, huh?

Tr00f

 
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~High Priest of Penance
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Creature - Human Cleric
Whenever ~ is dealt damage, you may
destroy target nonland permanent.
1/1
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeckk:
Because resto angel + thragtusk wasn't annoying, huh?

Ideally, I want some more creatures like Augur of Bolas. Decently costed card filtering attached to creatures. It's high time red got one that looks specifically for sorceries at 2-3cmc with a decent body.


I hope and pray that someday a red Snapcaster will appear with haste instead of flash.

Man that new card has got to be a 1/1 huh?

 
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Gideon seems reasonable enough. If nothing else, he needs to be attacked so that you aren't swinging with an indestructible 4/4 sometimes. Against decks with Lingering Souls, seems like he can soak up some points and still be around after a Verdict.

Probably not the most playable card in the set but I think it'll find decks immediately because people want to try out the new planeswalker, but will likely then settle into a UW control deck that really uses him well. White has two planeswalkers now, as does blue, so a superfriends deck is not only viable, but probably very good when fine-tuned.

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Originally posted by MagicPatty:
Gideon seems reasonable enough. If nothing else, he needs to be attacked so that you aren't swinging with an indestructible 4/4 sometimes. Against decks with Lingering Souls, seems like he can soak up some points and still be around after a Verdict.

Probably not the most playable card in the set but I think it'll find decks immediately because people want to try out the new planeswalker, but will likely then settle into a UW control deck that really uses him well. White has two planeswalkers now, as does blue, so a superfriends deck is not only viable, but probably very good when fine-tuned.


I don't think Superfriends(RWU) would be the case, but Esper-Walkers is already a deck and he seems like a 1-2 of possibly. It's hard because he is fighting for a spot Vs Sorin, LOI who is a lot more gamebreaking. Gideon's Ult is a trap, the only real relevant ability is the 2nd that is great after a wrath.

 
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Originally posted by daner:
I don't think Superfriends(RWU) would be the case, but Esper-Walkers is already a deck and he seems like a 1-2 of possibly. It's hard because he is fighting for a spot Vs Sorin, LOI who is a lot more gamebreaking. Gideon's Ult is a trap, the only real relevant ability is the 2nd that is great after a wrath.

ya good call... Sorin is better huh... Well, maybe he's a sleeper, maybe not.

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Originally posted by MagicPatty:
ya good call... Sorin is better huh... Well, maybe he's a sleeper, maybe not.



Actually...I forgot...he's battling for a spot at the 4 drop slot from Restoration Angel, Sorin, LOI...JACE, AOT, and Supreme Verdict.

How many do you expect to see thrown into a deck with that in mind?

I think he's still fine as a 1x - possibly 2x.

 
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The new Gideon is a total turd. Going to instantly sell mine if I pull any.
 
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This sit is looking quit unspectacular next to RTR

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
This sit is looking quit unspectacular next to RTR


I'm not a standard player (more casual than anything), but I love this set! Evolve as a mechanic is awesome and I love the cards that have evolve on it. All the other mechanics seem awesome as well.

 
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Originally posted by WeedIan:
This sit is looking quit unspectacular next to RTR


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quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:
Don't be hard on yourself you just missed an "h".

Edit, and my iPhone missed the whole point.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Thanos on January 03, 2013]

 
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~High Priest of Penance
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Creature - Human Cleric
Whenever ~ is dealt damage, you may
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1/1

I want 4x. My question is how can I totally abuse this card?

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