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Topic: New Planeswalker in Gatecrash... (spoiler alert)
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choco man Member
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posted January 02, 2013 06:55 AM
quote: Originally posted by marlo213: I don't know, Gideon seems really terrible. He doesn't really protect himself, he's not a guarantee size and his ultimate doesn't give you an advantage. Just seems really bad overall.The two dimir cards seem neat in casual though
He's still cool. Old gideon is better, easily. But how cool can you be without an ultimate? Old gideon plus ability is one of the best plus abilities.
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Pail42 Member
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posted January 02, 2013 07:42 AM
quote: Originally posted by choco man: He's still cool.
Agree. Things can still be cool even if they are bad.
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Zeckk Member
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posted January 02, 2013 08:40 AM
Haven't seen anything other than Clan Defiance Hands of Binding that look playable. The 8 mana/7 mana bloodrush card is just making me ask "why?". I get that they need to design for timmys, but that card is just a waste of a rare slot.
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marlo213 Member
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posted January 02, 2013 09:03 AM
quote: Originally posted by Zeckk: Haven't seen anything other than Clan Defiance Hands of Binding that look playable. The 8 mana/7 mana bloodrush card is just making me ask "why?". I get that they need to design for timmys, but that card is just a waste of a rare slot.
Tree-burning emissary has potential
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mcelraca Member
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posted January 02, 2013 09:59 AM
quote: Originally posted by Zeckk: Haven't seen anything other than Clan Defiance Hands of Binding that look playable. The 8 mana/7 mana bloodrush card is just making me ask "why?". I get that they need to design for timmys, but that card is just a waste of a rare slot.
I personally don't think that creature is all that bad. Yeah if you just slap it in a random deck its going to be awful. But the fact its a creature with that ability is going to be fun to use in a primal surge ramp deck. My friend made one for standard that may not be the best, but is a lot of fun to play. Skaarg Goliath may be expensive but bloodrush gives a little utility to the card. I'd agree with you on the waste of a rare slot, but I think having a bunch of these floating around at uncommon in sealed could be annoying. I'm not trying to be condescending, but i feel like you need to consider the complexity of all formats including casual before saying that none of these cards are playable. I'm pumped to pop several of these cards in as Commanders, and/or toy around with them for casual play.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by mcelraca on January 02, 2013]
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mcelraca Member
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posted January 02, 2013 10:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: I'm expecting a cipher mill card, a bounce card, and a draw card to all get printed...and at least one of them will slip past WoTC, have a low CC and be widely used!
I'm thinking, Glimpse the Unthinkable with cypher for 3cmc
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MAB_Rapper Member
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posted January 02, 2013 10:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by skizzikmonger: Consuming Aberration 3UB Creature - Horror Consuming Aberration's power and toughness are each equal to the number of cards in your opponents' graveyards. Whenever you cast a spell, each opponent reveals cards from the top of his or her library until he or she reveals a land card, then puts those cards into his or her graveyard. */*
I am picturing some dumb game of Commander with this next to Lord of Extinction. __________________ My 2008 Nationals MOTL's Pro-Tour Winner 2007-2009 Tower Magic FacebookhilikuS: Also, as much as MAB's list has become the list on the T/A Forum, I do miss Slinga's.
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choco man Member
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posted January 02, 2013 10:47 AM
quote: Originally posted by MAB_Rapper: I am picturing some dumb game of Commander with this next to Lord of Extinction.
Lord of Extinction + Consuming Aberration = hilarious the Mimeoplasm
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Bugger Member
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posted January 02, 2013 11:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by Pail42: Agree. Things can still be cool even if they are bad.
QFT. I think he's awesome (not good awesome, cool awesome). Goin right into my esper proliferate planeswalkers/levelers commander deck. __________________ It is a known fact that more Americans watch the television than any other appliance.
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Link139232 Member
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posted January 02, 2013 05:28 PM
Sigh. Skullcrack? Really? How annoying.
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WeedIan Member
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posted January 02, 2013 05:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Link139232: Sigh. Skullcrack? Really? How annoying.
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Zeckk Member
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posted January 02, 2013 08:08 PM
quote: Originally posted by Link139232: Sigh. Skullcrack? Really? How annoying.
Because resto angel + thragtusk wasn't annoying, huh? Ideally, I want some more creatures like Augur of Bolas. Decently costed card filtering attached to creatures. It's high time red got one that looks specifically for sorceries at 2-3cmc with a decent body.
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Bugger Member
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posted January 02, 2013 08:48 PM
quote: Originally posted by Zeckk: Because resto angel + thragtusk wasn't annoying, huh?
Tr00f
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skizzikmonger Member
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posted January 03, 2013 02:02 AM
~High Priest of Penance WB Creature - Human Cleric Whenever ~ is dealt damage, you may destroy target nonland permanent. 1/1
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choco man Member
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posted January 03, 2013 02:35 AM
quote: Originally posted by Zeckk: Because resto angel + thragtusk wasn't annoying, huh?Ideally, I want some more creatures like Augur of Bolas. Decently costed card filtering attached to creatures. It's high time red got one that looks specifically for sorceries at 2-3cmc with a decent body.
I hope and pray that someday a red Snapcaster will appear with haste instead of flash. Man that new card has got to be a 1/1 huh?
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MagicPatty Member
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posted January 03, 2013 05:39 AM
Gideon seems reasonable enough. If nothing else, he needs to be attacked so that you aren't swinging with an indestructible 4/4 sometimes. Against decks with Lingering Souls, seems like he can soak up some points and still be around after a Verdict. Probably not the most playable card in the set but I think it'll find decks immediately because people want to try out the new planeswalker, but will likely then settle into a UW control deck that really uses him well. White has two planeswalkers now, as does blue, so a superfriends deck is not only viable, but probably very good when fine-tuned. __________________ Got Mitotic Manipulation? Firemind's Foresight? Great! I want all bulk rares, check my H/W list!
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daner Member
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posted January 03, 2013 06:21 AM
quote: Originally posted by MagicPatty: Gideon seems reasonable enough. If nothing else, he needs to be attacked so that you aren't swinging with an indestructible 4/4 sometimes. Against decks with Lingering Souls, seems like he can soak up some points and still be around after a Verdict. Probably not the most playable card in the set but I think it'll find decks immediately because people want to try out the new planeswalker, but will likely then settle into a UW control deck that really uses him well. White has two planeswalkers now, as does blue, so a superfriends deck is not only viable, but probably very good when fine-tuned.
I don't think Superfriends(RWU) would be the case, but Esper-Walkers is already a deck and he seems like a 1-2 of possibly. It's hard because he is fighting for a spot Vs Sorin, LOI who is a lot more gamebreaking. Gideon's Ult is a trap, the only real relevant ability is the 2nd that is great after a wrath.
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MagicPatty Member
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posted January 03, 2013 06:25 AM
quote: Originally posted by daner: I don't think Superfriends(RWU) would be the case, but Esper-Walkers is already a deck and he seems like a 1-2 of possibly. It's hard because he is fighting for a spot Vs Sorin, LOI who is a lot more gamebreaking. Gideon's Ult is a trap, the only real relevant ability is the 2nd that is great after a wrath.
ya good call... Sorin is better huh... Well, maybe he's a sleeper, maybe not.
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daner Member
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posted January 03, 2013 06:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by MagicPatty: ya good call... Sorin is better huh... Well, maybe he's a sleeper, maybe not.
Actually...I forgot...he's battling for a spot at the 4 drop slot from Restoration Angel, Sorin, LOI...JACE, AOT, and Supreme Verdict. How many do you expect to see thrown into a deck with that in mind? I think he's still fine as a 1x - possibly 2x.
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AGO Member
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posted January 03, 2013 07:24 AM
The new Gideon is a total turd. Going to instantly sell mine if I pull any.
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WeedIan Member
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posted January 03, 2013 11:52 AM
This sit is looking quit unspectacular next to RTR__________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 2nd in posts in Canada 10th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
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SageShadows Member
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posted January 03, 2013 12:27 PM
quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: This sit is looking quit unspectacular next to RTR
I'm not a standard player (more casual than anything), but I love this set! Evolve as a mechanic is awesome and I love the cards that have evolve on it. All the other mechanics seem awesome as well.
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WeedIan Member
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posted January 03, 2013 12:51 PM
quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: This sit is looking quit unspectacular next to RTR
I'm really good at typing when I'm tired. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 2nd in posts in Canada 10th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
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Thanos Member
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posted January 03, 2013 01:07 PM
quote: Originally posted by Thanos: Don't be hard on yourself you just missed an "h".
Edit, and my iPhone missed the whole point.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Thanos on January 03, 2013]
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revenger Member
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posted January 03, 2013 02:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by skizzikmonger: ~High Priest of Penance WB Creature - Human Cleric Whenever ~ is dealt damage, you may destroy target nonland permanent. 1/1
I want 4x. My question is how can I totally abuse this card? __________________ Your 2008 & 2010 Siskel & Ebert award winner!32nd in refs on Motl! #1 Ref's for Arizona! I offer 3rd party trading services. Email if interested.
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