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gaeacradle
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quote:
Originally posted by Link139232:
Evolve looks BOSS in limited. I am excited.

More ego:

I was playing omnidoor when RtR came out. Just.. Without the omnidoor. It was WGB with Farseek/Ranger's Path/Chromatic Lantern/Lotus with Griselbrand/Angel of Serenity as finishers. Used Thragtusk and Centaur Healers to handle all the aggro and stuff. I ultimately retired the idea because it was too inconsistent. WHO KNEW ADDING BLUE WOULD MAKE IT AWESOME?

You too??

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Link139232:

More ego:

I was playing omnidoor when RtR came out. Just.. Without the omnidoor. It was WGB with Farseek/Ranger's Path/Chromatic Lantern/Lotus with Griselbrand/Angel of Serenity as finishers. Used Thragtusk and Centaur Healers to handle all the aggro and stuff. I ultimately retired the idea because it was too inconsistent. WHO KNEW ADDING BLUE WOULD MAKE IT AWESOME?

And on the 6th day you created man, what's your point?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:
And on the 6th day you created man, what's your point?

Didn't God create the Remington .30-06 on the 6th day to kill the Dinosaurs....and the homosexuals?


*please watch "Mean Girls" if you don't get my reference*

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
All 10 guilds are getting new keywords, so that's probably a no on Devour. Could happen, I don't just see it happening.

New Simic keyword is Evolve

Simic Fluxmage (U)
2U
Creature - Merfolk Wizard
Evolve (Whenever a creature enters the
battlefield under your control, if that creature
has greater power or toughness than this
creature, put a +1/+1 counter on this creature.)

1U, T: Move a +1/+1 counter from Simic
Fluxmage onto target creature.
1/2

Source?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
Source?

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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
Source?

It was apparently slipped in to some RTR packs that got opened at FNMs last night. Saw a pic floating around twitter/fb.

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WOTC did this before with RTR. Rootbound Defense was spoiled this way. I just don't remember if it came in a M13 or Avacyn Restored pack.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by gaeacradle:
WOTC did this before with RTR. Rootbound Defense was spoiled this way. I just don't remember if it came in a M13 or Avacyn Restored pack.

That wasn't on purpose, and considering rosewater's preview card is supposed to unveil the mechanic, I don't think this is either. Wizards sure seems to be having some issues with their printers this year.

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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
That wasn't on purpose, and considering rosewater's preview card is supposed to unveil the mechanic, I don't think this is either. Wizards sure seems to be having some issues with their printers this year.

Just how does one card make it into packs? Seems a ton of things would need to go horribly wrong in such a perfect way for ONLY one card to get leaked....

If it was a accident I imagine a whole sheet would get released in packs, not just a single card.

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What's omnidoor?

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quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
What's omnidoor?

~MM

Omniscience. Door to Nothingness. Temporal Mastery. Chromatic Lantern. 10 mana

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
Just how does one card make it into packs? Seems a ton of things would need to go horribly wrong in such a perfect way for ONLY one card to get leaked....

If it was a accident I imagine a whole sheet would get released in packs, not just a single card.

There was an article about it on daily mtg. Apparently it was an accident, and they had him send the card back. Then a bunch of wizards big name employees signed it and sent him a banner and some promo material or something.was really cool


[Edited 1 times, lastly by dfitzg88 on December 22, 2012]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by dfitzg88:
There was an article about it on daily mtg. Apparently it was an accident, and they had him send the card back. Then a bunch of wizards big name employees signed it and sent him a banner and some promo material or something.was really cool

Just seems extremely unlikely only one card of an entire sheet gets released as a single copy, and then happens a 2nd time the exact same way.

They can deny all they want, just makes no sense what so ever.

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quote:
Originally posted by gaeacradle:
You too??

Yeah! It just never worked for me. But, this was before everyone found out how busted Revelation is, and I never thought to add blue for Verdict, etc, and certainly never even considered playing Omni/Temporal/Door/Whatever.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Link139232:
Yeah! It just never worked for me. But, this was before everyone found out how busted Revelation is, and I never thought to add blue for Verdict, etc, and certainly never even considered playing Omni/Temporal/Door/Whatever.

So what you're saying is, you didnt actually have that deck at all? Because Revelation+Door+omni+etc IS the deck, and you just had a pile of bad.

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Originally posted by thror:
So what you're saying is, you didnt actually have that deck at all? Because Revelation+Door+omni+etc IS the deck, and you just had a pile of bad.

Yeah, pretty much.. And I don't like playing piles of bad, so..

It wasn't THAT bad, to be honest. The format was still brand new, I made that deck when the spoilers weren't even done coming out. If you recall, Armada Wurm was one of the last cards spoiled, and that made me struggle to find which finishers to play.

 
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Evolve looks like it could be really good if some of the creatures are aggressively costed. Like a 1 drop with evolve for U or something (hopefully a merfolk). Play it, drop a bigger dude, swing for 2.

Master of the Pearl Trident.

 
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A tribal/cavern of souls style land that gives creatures you play evolve might be a card. Might be too powerful though.
 
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I like this "evolve" mechanic, but I do have a problem with it. It is not very blue to put +1/+1 counters on creatures.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
I like this "evolve" mechanic, but I do have a problem with it. It is not very blue to put +1/+1 counters on creatures.

It is, however, incredibly Simic

 
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Sounds like Simic has a problem with its color identity.
 
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There have been blue cards that put counters before. The one from monitoring tide that put counters on wizards.

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Lots of colors have done things that aren't traditionally in their slice of the color pie. Black fog anyone? (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=1434).

I did a search on gatherer for single color cards that had +1/+1 counter in their text. Here are the results:

White: 55 cards
Blue: 28 cards
Black: 95 cards
Red: 114 cards
Green: 154 cards

An ability that is supposed to define the core of the Blue/Green color pie should in no way involve +1/+1 counters. "Evolve" is a green ability, I don't see how blue has anything to do with it.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
Lots of colors have done things that aren't traditionally in their slice of the color pie. Black fog anyone? (http://gatherer.wizards.com/Pages/Card/Details.aspx?multiverseid=1434).

I did a search on gatherer for single color cards that had +1/+1 counter in their text. Here are the results:

White: 55 cards
Blue: 28 cards
Black: 95 cards
Red: 114 cards
Green: 154 cards

An ability that is supposed to define the core of the Blue/Green color pie should in no way involve +1/+1 counters. "Evolve" is a green ability, I don't see how blue has anything to do with it.

I think you should focus more on what the ability does, and less on what the ability is called. This fit in perfectly with the previous Simic ability. And Simic is a BLUE AND GREEN guild.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by gaeacradle:
I think you should focus more on what the ability does, and less on what the ability is called. This fit in perfectly with the previous Simic ability. And Simic is a BLUE AND GREEN guild.

I'm not focusing on the name (sorry I realize now putting it in quotes makes it seem that way). I'm focusing on things blue does and things green does. Putting 1/1 counters on creatures is a very green ability. Moving 1/1 counters to other creatures is a very green ability.

Blue is the color that has the least interaction with 1/1 counters in the entire history of magic.

It doesn't make sense for an ability that is supposed to showcase blue's and green's shared identity to be so focused on putting 1/1 counters on creatures.

 

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