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Originally posted by Dancam1:
So, if you cast a card for it's bestow cost, and the creature isn't there when it resolves, then it comes into play as a creature, even if u originally cast it as a creature enchantment aka aura?

For some reason, I thought the second card was also an enchant type of card. My mistake.
Thanks for getting back so fast.
Dan

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Yes. If you cast the creature as an aura for its bestow cost but the creature you target it with is removed before the bestow creature resolves, the bestow creature will still enter the battlefield as a creature, as if you had not used the bestow ability.

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Originally posted by Caitiri:
Yes. If you cast the creature as an aura for its bestow cost but the creature you target it with is removed before the bestow creature resolves, the bestow creature will still enter the battlefield as a creature, as if you had not used the bestow ability.

-Caitiri

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See, that goes against everything magic had explained before about card mode. For ex, if you cast a card with multiple modes, like bant charm, and the one you pick is not there upon resolution, the entire spell fails, you can't redo the mode. But, on these, apparently you can. It's odd.

I have an old timers question: If I have Ancestral Vision in the graveyard and cast Yawgmoth's Will, can I use the vision in any way?

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Originally posted by ryan2754:
How will Opalescence work with the tokens made from Heliod, God of the Sun?

And to add on, how will Heliod work with it? If it's just can enchantment, I get it, but what happens when my devotion is high enough that Heliod is both creature and enchantment, and I have opalescence in play?

SCRATCHES HEAD - This is gonna be misterable.

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Originally posted by Dancam1:
See, that goes against everything magic had explained before about card mode. For ex, if you cast a card with multiple modes, like bant charm, and the one you pick is not there upon resolution, the entire spell fails, you can't redo the mode. But, on these, apparently you can. It's odd.

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I agree, it isn't completely intuitive, especially with how the reminder text reads on the cards. That's the official ruling from Wizards though.

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I have an old timers question: If I have Ancestral Vision in the graveyard and cast Yawgmoth's Will, can I use the vision in any way?

thanks in advance
Dan

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Nope. Since the Vision doesn't have a mana cost it can't be cast as a normal spell, and Will doesn't allow you to use the suspend from the graveyard.

-Caitiri

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Originally posted by xxxcryoserumxxx:
I have a 4/4 with trample and my opponent blocks with a 1/5, if I lightning bolt it before damage is calculated would my creature deal 2 trample damage to my opponent?

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the 1/5 will have 3 damage marked on it, so your 4/4 has to deal at least 2 before it can trample. as long as you do that, you can deal the rest (2), to your opponent. so yes.

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Originally posted by Liq:
The top 2 players in a tournament agree to ID and split the prizes. 1st place is given a $25 gift card and 2nd place is given a $15 gift card. Is 1st place allowed to give 2nd place $5 in order to even out the prize split or is that considered bribery?

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yea, that would be bribery. dont do that. agree to split, then agree to draw. after prizes are paid out, OUTSIDE the venue, work out your split.

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Originally posted by thror:
yea, that would be bribery. dont do that. agree to split, then agree to draw. after prizes are paid out, OUTSIDE the venue, work out your split.

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That's the situation I'm describing. After the event, after prizes have been paid out.

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Originally posted by mattw:
how do the split mana symbols work with devotion, like is a boros reckoner add 3 devotion to red and white?

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Yes, they count for both colors.

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Originally posted by Dancam1:
For the new God cards that aren't creatures until their Devotion is met, can you use their abilities even if they aren't creatures?

And am I wrong in thinking that a disenchant kills them? So, they can be killed by creature kill spells and enchantment kill spells? To me, that makes them kinda weak...

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You can still use their abilities. They just can't walk over to your opponent's face until you have enough devotion. If they didn't have indestructible, Disenchant would kill them.

They counter the Sleight of Mind (lol).

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Originally posted by evilempire22:
If I use Proteus Staff and one of the cards revealed is a God card, does it get put into play? Or only if I have the required devotion?

Thanks,

--Evil

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gods are always creatures when not on the battlefield (in graveyard, library, exile, hand, on the stack, etc etc). once on the battlefield, the devotion ability is turned on and checked. if you reveal one to staff, you put it onto the battlefield.

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Originally posted by CaribooLegend:
Heya, if a creature with bestow is an aura on another creature, and that enchanted creature dies after tapping from say Divine Verdict, is the new enchantment creature that falls off tapped or untapped?
Thanks!

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Untapped (usually).

I am able counter an enchantment creature, cast as a creature, with a spell like annul.

However,

I am unable to counter a bestowed enchantment creature with something like essence scatter.

Is this correct?

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Originally posted by mcelraca:
I just want to make sure I'm thinking straight on bestow and counters.

I am able counter an enchantment creature, cast as a creature, with a spell like annul.

However,

I am unable to counter a bestowed enchantment creature with something like essence scatter.

Is this correct?

While I think I'm correct above, I believe you should be able to counter the bestow because it's still an enchantment creature spell...

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Originally posted by mcelraca:
I just want to make sure I'm thinking straight on bestow and counters.

I am able counter an enchantment creature, cast as a creature, with a spell like annul.

However,

I am unable to counter a bestowed enchantment creature with something like essence scatter.

Is this correct?

While I think I'm correct above, I believe you should be able to counter the bestow because it's still an enchantment creature spell...

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You are correct. When you cast a spell for it's bestow cost it stops being a creature and becomes an Enchantment -Aura. You can not Essence scatter it, or even StP it when its on the Battlefield.

If you cast it as a creature spell, you can Annul it and Disenchant it.

relevant rules and stuff.
"If you chose to pay this spell's bestow cost, it becomes an Aura enchantment and gains enchant creature. These effects last until one of two things happens: this spell has an illegal target as it resolves or the permanent this spell becomes, becomes unattached."

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Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:
A rule I should know by now but can never remember: if a Blood Artist and some other creatures are destroyed thanks to a mass destruction effect, does it still trigger?

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From Gatherer

5/1/2012 If Blood Artist and one or more other creatures die at the same time, its ability will trigger for each of those creatures.

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Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:
A rule I should know by now but can never remember: if a Blood Artist and some other creatures are destroyed thanks to a mass destruction effect, does it still trigger?

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