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Originally posted by gaeacradle:
Yeah I did. Hehe.

There are so much casual and flavor gold in this set so far. But the Red God is the only one that I am excited about for Constructed play.

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Xenagos, the Reveler
2RG
Planeswalker-Xenagos
+1: Add X mana in any combination of R and/or
G to your mana pool where X is the number of
creatures you control.
0: Put a 2/2 red and green Satyr creature token
with haste onto the battlefield.
-6: Exile the top seven cards of your library. You
may put any number of creature and/or land cards
from among them onto the battlefield.
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Worse than Domri in my mind, but i don't think its bad.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Worse than Domri in my mind, but i don't think its bad.

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0 ability is soooo good

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Originally posted by Lord Crovax:
0 ability is soooo good

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Xenagos, the Reveler
2RG
Planeswalker-Xenagos
+1: Add X mana in any combination of R and/or
G to your mana pool where X is the number of
creatures you control.
0: Put a 2/2 red and green Satyr creature token
with haste onto the battlefield.
-6: Exile the top seven cards of your library. You
may put any number of creature and/or land cards
from among them onto the battlefield.
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4 to cast,with 3 loyalty counter.hoping that Wizard of the Coast will not make nor reprint a cards like incinerate nor searing spear.if they will xenagos is favorite targets....3 loyalty is not good,specially R/G which more often a big craeture.i think domri is much better to xenagos...anyway a good addition to grull deck or even R/G blitz...but domri is much preferable.

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Stormbreath Dragon
3RR
Creature — Dragon
Flying, haste, protection from white
5RR: Monstrosity 3
When Stormbreath Dragon becomes monstrous,
it deals damage to each opponent equal to the
number of cards in that player's hand.
4/4

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Originally posted by Encantadian:

4 to cast,with 3 loyalty counter.hoping that Wizard of the Coast will not make nor reprint a cards like incinerate nor searing spear.if they will xenagos is favorite targets....3 loyalty is not good,specially R/G which more often a big craeture.i think domri is much better to xenagos...anyway a good addition to grull deck or even R/G blitz...but domri is much preferable.

AWEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEESOMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

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As soon as you cast it you have a chance to +1 it before they have a chance to bolt it.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:

As soon as you cast it you have a chance to +1 it before they have a chance to bolt it.

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The problem is, his +1 is something you almost never want to use the turn he comes into play. Honestly, I don't think he's that great with the pool we have to worth with right now.

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
The problem is, his +1 is something you almost never want to use the turn he comes into play. Honestly, I don't think he's that great with the pool we have to worth with right now.

As for the dragon, that beast is going right into the hole of thundermaw hellkite. I'm honestly wondering what the heck is supposed to stop Gruul stompy after rotation. Reckoner, Domri, Stormbreath, Red God, Ash Zealot, Chandra's Pheonix, Scavenging Ooze, Burning Tree Emissary, and your assortment of burn.

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I could be wrong, but I think you're vastly underestimating the amount of time that you will +2-3 mana, play a 2-3drop, and pass. I know that with Garruk 1, this was a not-uncommon move.

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Originally posted by walkerdog:
I could be wrong, but I think you're vastly underestimating the amount of time that you will +2-3 mana, play a 2-3drop, and pass. I know that with Garruk 1, this was a not-uncommon move.

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Originally posted by fluffycow:
Garruk 1 was better though since you can drop something with the +1 and threaten lethal next turn; where this guy can threaten ultimate and the opponent may not even care

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I doubt many opponents will "not care" about his ult - you have a lot of potential direct damage as a result of his ult.

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Originally posted by walkerdog:
I doubt many opponents will "not care" about his ult - you have a lot of potential direct damage as a result of his ult.

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Originally posted by walkerdog:
I could be wrong, but I think you're vastly underestimating the amount of time that you will +2-3 mana, play a 2-3drop, and pass. I know that with Garruk 1, this was a not-uncommon move.

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Until we see a card that actually threatens 3 damage at instant speed (aside from boros charm, which makes either option irrelevant), there's no reason to use his +1 until the following turn, most likely to power up a monstrosity effect or X-cost spell.

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
1UB
Planeswalker — Ashiok
+2: Exile the top three cards of target opponent's library.
-X: Put a creature card with converted mana cost X
exiled with Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver onto the battlefield
under your control. That creature is a Nightmare in
addition to its other types.
-10: Exile all cards from all opponents' hands and graveyards.
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I love the design on this guy even if he's not playable

Black god is best god

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
1UB
Planeswalker — Ashiok
+2: Exile the top three cards of target opponent's library.
-X: Put a creature card with converted mana cost X
exiled with Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver onto the battlefield
under your control. That creature is a Nightmare ino
addition to its other types.
-10: Exile all cards from all opponents' hands and graveyards.
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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
1UB
Planeswalker — Ashiok
+2: Exile the top three cards of target opponent's library.
-X: Put a creature card with converted mana cost X
exiled with Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver onto the battlefield
under your control. That creature is a Nightmare ino
addition to its other types.
-10: Exile all cards from all opponents' hands and graveyards.
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Black God and red God both look like the best contenders for standard play. I wonder if the black God ends up being top of the curve for a rakdos aggro deck, or more of a finisher for some sort of control list.

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Originally posted by xxxcryoserumxxx:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver
1UB
Planeswalker — Ashiok
+2: Exile the top three cards of target opponent's library.
-X: Put a creature card with converted mana cost X
exiled with Ashiok, Nightmare Weaver onto the battlefield
under your control. That creature is a Nightmare ino
addition to its other types.
-10: Exile all cards from all opponents' hands and graveyards.
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I'm pretty sure people will be lining up to trade it to you right after the set drops...

Fleecemane Lion (own translation)

Creature - Cat

GW

3GW - Monstrous 1.

As long as Fleecemane Lion is Monstrous, it has hexproof and indestructible.

3/3

So, highly efficient 2-drop that becomes an Emrakul-level removal problem down the road? I'm honestly completely baffled in terms of what deck I want to play post-rotation. GW stompy? Gruul stompy? RDW? Boros aggro? literally every mid-range/aggro list has some nightmare cards for control lists, and nearly all of them require rather specific answers.

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Originally posted by Zeckk:
Welp, I think the best rare of the set just got spoiled...

Fleecemane Lion (own translation)

Creature - Cat

GW

3GW - Monstrous 1.

As long as Fleecemane Lion is Monstrous, it has hexproof and indestructible.

3/3

So, highly efficient 2-drop that becomes an Emrakul-level removal problem down the road? I'm honestly completely baffled in terms of what deck I want to play post-rotation. GW stompy? Gruul stompy? RDW? Boros aggro? literally every mid-range/aggro list has some nightmare cards for control lists, and nearly all of them require rather specific answers.

I'm really, REALLY hoping the manabases force people into 2-color decks, because I think it's going to set up a rather interesting metagame after rotation.

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I just don't see it man, it is literally a Watchwolf/Call of the Conclave(both of which are uncommons) before it's monstrous. If you drop this on curve they have at least 2 turns to deal with it before you can make it hexproof and indestructible, but there's an awful lot of removal seeing play that can kill this guy. Response to monstrous trigger, instant speed removal, thanks for wasting a turn. I can see that happening more often then not.