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skizzikmonger
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posted August 31, 2013 07:45 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for skizzikmonger Click Here to Email skizzikmonger Send a private message to skizzikmonger Click to send skizzikmonger an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Elspeth, Sun's Champion
4WW
Planeswalker Elsepth
+1: Put three 1/1 white Soldier creature tokens
onto the battlefield.
-3: Destroy all creatures with power 4 or greater.
-7: You get an emblem with "Creatures you
control get +2/+2 and have flying."
4

Underworld Cerberus
3BR
Creature Hound
Underworld Cerberus can't be blocked except
by three or more creatures.
Cards in graveyards can't be the targets of
spells or abilities.
When Underworld Cerberus dies, exile it and
each player returns all creature cards from his
or her graveyard to his or her hand.
6/6

Read the Bones
2B

Sorcery
Scry 2, then draw two cards. You lose 2 life.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by skizzikmonger on August 31, 2013]

 
Pail42
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Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
Legendary Land
Tap : Add to your mana pool.
2, Tap: Choose a color. Add to your mana pool an amount of mana of that color equal to your devotion to that color. (Your devotion to a color is the number of mana symbols of that color in the mana costs of permanents you control.)

At least rewind isn't in M14 :-/

That Bound to the Rocks enchantment is looking pretty solid.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Pail42 on September 01, 2013]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pail42:
Nykthos, Shrine to Nyx
Legendary Land
Tap : Add to your mana pool.
2, Tap: Choose a color. Add to your mana pool an amount of mana of that color equal to your devotion to that color. (Your devotion to a color is the number of mana symbols of that color in the mana costs of permanents you control.)

At least rewind isn't in M14 :-/

That Bound to the Rocks enchantment is looking pretty solid.


This land is going to be a big deal in mono color EDH. I really like the design.

 
thror
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posted September 01, 2013 08:38 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for thror Send a private message to thror Click to send thror an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
its almost like cabal coffers for everybody. let's see how broken it gets. lands that make more than 1-2 mana, what are you doing wotc!

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quote:
Originally posted by stab107:
This land is going to be a big deal in mono color EDH. I really like the design.

Agreed. It's good, but not completely insane.

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stab107
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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
its almost like cabal coffers for everybody. let's see how broken it gets. lands that make more than 1-2 mana, what are you doing wotc!


The problem with Coffers is that once you have 5 or more swamps it is always insane. With the Devotion mechanic at least after a board sweep the new land is kept in check.

 
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posted September 01, 2013 09:58 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for revenger Click Here to Email revenger Click to send revenger an Instant MessageVisit revenger's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
[B]Elspeth, Sun's Champion
4WW
Planeswalker Elsepth
+1: Put three 1/1 white Soldier creature tokens
onto the battlefield.
-3: Destroy all creatures with power 4 or greater.
-7: You get an emblem with "Creatures you
control get +2/+2 and have flying."
4


Is it me but is this the weakest Elspeth printed to date? I don't care for it.

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quote:
Originally posted by revenger:
Is it me but is this the weakest Elspeth printed to date? I don't care for it.

She is the weakest Elspeth so far. If she costs 5 though, man, she will actually be good!

 
thror
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quote:
Originally posted by gaeacradle:
She is the weakest Elspeth so far. If she costs 5 though, man, she will actually be good!

except she's confirmed to cost 6.

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WinkyBlitzen
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quote:
Originally posted by revenger:
Is it me but is this the weakest Elspeth printed to date? I don't care for it.



The +/- abilities are actually pretty decent, but 6 is just way too much mana. The only PWs that have seen play that cost 6 or more are Karn (and you're usually casting him with 3 lands) and New Garruk (which is usually able to be dropped on turn 3 or 4 in the decks that run him).

 
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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
except she's confirmed to cost 6.


I know that. I'm just pointing out that she will be great if she costs 5 instead of 6.

On another note, Dryad Arbor may be reprinted? It certainly looks like one from the trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNewZZPKH-U

[Edited 1 times, lastly by gaeacradle on September 01, 2013]

 
Zeckk
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I actually think elspeth is going to see quite a bit of play, partially because of the sphere of safety shell, and partially because elspeth's abilities have an absurd synergy with Jace AoT. Turn 2 mana bloom into turn 3 verdict, drop your walkers, enjoy massive board control while you build up CA through sphinx's revelation.

Also, keep in mind the fact that 3 WHITE soldier tokens + elspeth alone is likely enough to trigger devotion requirements for the white god, assuming they all have a Devotion 5 threshold.

Personally, I really really like that Rescue from the Underworld card. Obviously you need a way to deal with scavenging ooze, but instant speed is instant speed, and Angel of Serenity + Progenitor Mimic are already solid targets for reanimation.

EDIT - Dryad arbor could be reprinted, but the art you are referring to has been linked to one of the promo cards, as they are caryatids.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Zeckk on September 01, 2013]

 
thror
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quote:
Originally posted by gaeacradle:
I know that. I'm just pointing out that she will be great if she costs 5 instead of 6.

On another note, Dryad Arbor may be reprinted? It certainly looks like one from the trailer.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNewZZPKH-U


then your english is poor. "she would be great if..."

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skizzikmonger
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeckk:
Also, keep in mind the fact that 3 WHITE soldier tokens + elspeth alone is likely enough to trigger devotion requirements for the white god, assuming they all have a Devotion 5 threshold.

The tokens won't count towards Devotion because they have a cc of 0.

Devotion: Each W in the mana costs of permanents you control counts toward your devotion to white

 
gaeacradle
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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
then your english is poor. "she would be great if..."


Thanks for the grammar lesson there, but I'm sure people would still have understood what I meant. Or most people anyway.

Note - English is not my native language

[Edited 1 times, lastly by gaeacradle on September 01, 2013]

 
Zeckk
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
The tokens won't count towards Devotion because they have a cc of 0.

Devotion: Each W in the mana costs of permanents you control counts toward your devotion to white


Ooooo thanks for pointing that out. Mis-read devotion into simply counting the number of color-specific permanents you control.

Anyone else think we will get a 1 or 2 cmc merfolk that deals with devotion? Wouldn't mind seeing modern 'folk getting something that helps their viability.

 
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quote:
Curse of the Swine XUU

Sorcery

Exile X target creatures. For each creature exiled this way, its controller puts a 2/2 green Boar creature token onto the battlefield.

Another imminent battle subsided in busy snuffling and carefree rooting.

Illus. James Ryman #46/249


Sweet!

 
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quote:
Originally posted by KGtheLegend:
Sweet!

*Savory. MMMMMmmm Bacon.....

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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
*Savory. MMMMMmmm Bacon.....


Fair enough

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
[B]Elspeth, Sun's Champion
4WW
Planeswalker Elsepth
+1: Put three 1/1 white Soldier creature tokens
onto the battlefield.
-3: Destroy all creatures with power 4 or greater.
-7: You get an emblem with "Creatures you
control get +2/+2 and have flying."
4

she is not good nor she is not bad....6 casting cost for 4 loyalty is pretty bad..better for her if 5 loyalty counter..

+1ut 3 token creature sooooo coooooolllllllll...


-3:destroy creature with power of 4 or greater..nahhhhhhh better if she can bury power less than or equal to 5 or bury target opponents creature....

 
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Mechanics article is up on wotc site

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/therosmechanics

Here is the only thing we didn't know already:
"If the target creature leaves the battlefield after you cast a card with bestow as an Aura but before the spell resolves, the Aura spell will resolve as an enchantment creature rather than being countered like a normal Aura spell. If the target creature is still on the battlefield when the Aura spell resolves, it resolves as an Aura enchanting that creature."

 
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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
its almost like cabal coffers for everybody. let's see how broken it gets. lands that make more than 1-2 mana, what are you doing wotc!


It's a cheaper replacement for Gaea's Cradle in elves. Not nearly as good mind you, but I don't feel like spending the money to pick up a third, so I might add one of these. Plus they can both be on the battlefield at the same time.

 
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Slowest T2 format ever?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
Slowest T2 format ever?

GOOD! Standard needs to slow down. No more dying before your 4th turn from creature damage.

 
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I remember the kamigawa era of standard. This seems very similar. I like slower standard play. You actually need to be good at the game in a slower format. Anyone can play land and turn dudes sideways.
 

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