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oneofchaos Member	posted August 26, 2013 01:58 PM quote: Originally posted by daner: Could be a LOT of things....there are multi-colored cards in this set. We are suppose to get some awesome new form of mana fixing @ non-basic. Perhaps it's Fulminator Mage? Top 5 guesses would be Thoughtsieze, Damnation, Remand, Daybreak Coronet and Fulminator Mage. Maybe Reflecting Pool as a honorable mention? EDIT: or WOTC just says " it" and jams the Zen Fetches into Theros so the price to enter Modern drops in preparation for the coming Modern Season next Summer. Well that would certainly bring the price down, but now "we want standard manabases to be fair" concept is thrown out the window, caught by the concrete, put in the trash, compacted, buried, cemetery doused with gasoline, ignited, and then finally buried in sand.
harbingerofthevoid Member	posted August 26, 2013 08:05 PM quote: Originally posted by Pail42: Considering that flavor-wise they're god-created/god-infused artifacts they will likely all cost well more than 1. Gods don't tend to have small effects and large effects aren't cheap. Overly complicated speculation: So maybe 1% that it will be CMC 1 or 0 and then 2% that if it costs 1 or 0 it will be good enough for the enchantress deck ... 0.02% overall Yeah right so let's try this. 1 Shield of Basasasasababa Legendary Artifact Enchantment - Equipment Sacrifice an Enchantment: attach... Equipped creature has hexproof and when ever you play an enchantment, you may draw a card. Does Enchantress need an artifact nope. Are there U Enchantress decks? yep. Could this just be fetched with Stoneforge? yep. It's just banter so okay.
choco man Member	posted August 26, 2013 09:16 PM hmmm, Licids....never saw it coming. edit: well, more "licid-like" than licid [Edited 1 times, lastly by choco man on August 26, 2013]
harbingerofthevoid Member	posted August 26, 2013 09:35 PM Yeah bit the U one seems kitschy at least
Lord Crovax Member	posted August 26, 2013 10:38 PM Bestow seems amazing....unless you counter the bestow card, I will always get my dude! __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
Zeckk Member	posted August 26, 2013 11:23 PM Call me jaded, but seeing literally all of those intro rares having CMC or activation costs of 6-8 mana makes me just shake my head in disappointment. Literally the only thing I like about this set so far is the fact that monstrosity is both a binary and modular mechanic. I just hope there's more than 1 constructed-playable card for each mechanic.
Volcanon Member	posted August 27, 2013 12:00 AM quote: Originally posted by Zeckk: Call me jaded, but seeing literally all of those intro rares having CMC or activation costs of 6-8 mana makes me just shake my head in disappointment. Literally the only thing I like about this set so far is the fact that monstrosity is both a binary and modular mechanic. I just hope there's more than 1 constructed-playable card for each mechanic. The more expensive abilities the better. Slow formats like Ravnica 1 good.
Lord Crovax Member	posted August 27, 2013 12:06 AM A supposed version of one of the gods... {2}{U} Legendary Enchantment Creature - God Indestructible At the beginning of your upkeep, scry 1. {1}{U}: Target creature you control can't be blocked this turn. Devotion 5 - If there are less than 5 blue mana symbols among permanents you control, Thassa is a non creature enchantment and loses indestructible. 5/5 Posted on MTGsalv a little while ago...Scry has also been heavily rumored on twitter... Thoughts if real and exactly as stated? __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
SageShadows Member	posted August 27, 2013 12:14 AM Isn't Devotion similar to Chroma?
stab107 Member	posted August 27, 2013 05:30 AM quote: Originally posted by SageShadows: Isn't Devotion similar to Chroma? Yes, I think Devotion is the "tweaked" mechanic that has been talked about for the past couple of weeks. I like it. I really like the how flavorful devotion is. Not sure how it will play but it appears to be very strong design.
Goaswerfraiejen Member	posted August 27, 2013 05:55 AM Why is the Kraken a crab? __________________ "I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each. I do not think they will sing to me." -T.S. Eliot RIP Ari Legacy UGB River Rock primer. PM comments/questions. Info on grad school in Phil.
JoshSherman Member	posted August 27, 2013 06:29 AM quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: A supposed version of one of the gods... {2}{U} Legendary Enchantment Creature - God Indestructible At the beginning of your upkeep, scry 1. {1}{U}: Target creature you control can't be blocked this turn. Devotion 5 - If there are less than 5 blue mana symbols among permanents you control, Thassa is a non creature enchantment and loses indestructible. 5/5 Posted on MTGsalv a little while ago...Scry has also been heavily rumored on twitter... Thoughts if real and exactly as stated? Cost is too low. Negator is the only 3 mana 5/5 I can think of off the top of my head, and that drawback can get hefty. Being legendary isn't that big a drawback. edit: I am also skeptical about devotion being a major drawback to the card. Guess we'll see. __________________ My LJLetter Bombs!FBLogout- MM is a copycat! (So am I)*CKGB [Edited 1 times, lastly by JoshSherman on August 27, 2013]
Zeckk Member	posted August 27, 2013 07:42 AM quote: Originally posted by JoshSherman: Cost is too low. Negator is the only 3 mana 5/5 I can think of off the top of my head, and that drawback can get hefty. Being legendary isn't that big a drawback. edit: I am also skeptical about devotion being a major drawback to the card. Guess we'll see. It has quite a few drawbacks, actually. Legendary, devotion requirements, the ability for your opponent to "turn it off" with removal or bounce, etc. As far as the design goes, I like the way they did the gods, and I do like the devotion mechanic. Encourages color investment if done correctly.
flam flawless Member	posted August 27, 2013 07:47 AM quote: Originally posted by Lord Crovax: A supposed version of one of the gods... {2}{U} Legendary Enchantment Creature - God Indestructible At the beginning of your upkeep, scry 1. {1}{U}: Target creature you control can't be blocked this turn. Devotion 5 - If there are less than 5 blue mana symbols among permanents you control, Thassa is a non creature enchantment and loses indestructible. 5/5 Posted on MTGsalv a little while ago...Scry has also been heavily rumored on twitter... Thoughts if real and exactly as stated? This card just might make modern fish insane.
fluffycow Member	posted August 27, 2013 08:25 AM I am calling it first: name type-legendary land ~ cipt tap: add blue your devotion to blue is increased by 2 overly cost: scry 1
JesusChristMD Member	posted August 27, 2013 09:13 AM quote: Originally posted by fluffycow: I am calling it first: name type-legendary land ~ cipt tap: add blue your devotion to blue is increased by 2 overly cost: scry 1 I believe that the god has been confirmed to be the post above yours. __________________ Quoth the Raven, "Nevermore"
Pail42 Member	posted August 27, 2013 09:23 AM quote: Originally posted by JesusChristMD: I believe that the god has been confirmed to be the post above yours. I think he's saying there will be a cycle of lands that give you free/bonus devotion. Kinda like how the artifact lands in Mirrodin gave you mana and counted toward affinity. I could see this happening.
JoshSherman Member	posted August 27, 2013 10:27 AM quote: Originally posted by Zeckk: It has quite a few drawbacks, actually. Legendary, devotion requirements, the ability for your opponent to "turn it off" with removal or bounce, etc. As far as the design goes, I like the way they did the gods, and I do like the devotion mechanic. Encourages color investment if done correctly. You named two drawbacks. The same two drawbacks I named. Turning off devotion is not a different drawback from devotion itself. I like the design as well. I just think it doesn't cost enough. __________________ My LJLetter Bombs!FBLogout- MM is a copycat! (So am I)*CKGB
fluffycow Member	posted August 27, 2013 10:37 AM quote: Originally posted by Pail42: I think he's saying there will be a cycle of lands that give you free/bonus devotion. Kinda like how the artifact lands in Mirrodin gave you mana and counted toward affinity. I could see this happening. Bingo quote: Originally posted by JoshSherman: You named two drawbacks. The same two drawbacks I named. Turning off devotion is not a different drawback from devotion itself. I like the design as well. I just think it doesn't cost enough. I think it's pretty unplayable in its current printing. There has to be some serious mono color support for this to be any good
jbark Member	posted August 27, 2013 11:17 AM Keep in mind that the actual card now reads that it loses being a creature but retains indestructible. I see some possible shenanigans with flash creatures or recursion spells. Might be too slow for modern tho. And the problem with these devotion cards is that most decks don't have that many permanants in play. Things may change but with all the multicolor support in rtr block, it hurts devotion.
Pail42 Member	posted August 27, 2013 11:33 AM quote: Originally posted by jbark: Things may change but with all the multicolor support in rtr block, it hurts devotion. In some ways it helps. I assume hybrid mana counts toward both devotions, so guys like Burning Tree Emissary and Deathrite Shaman become more valuable but are just as easy to cast as if they were mono-colored.
jbark Member	posted August 27, 2013 01:31 PM This is true but also you will most likely be playing both colors close to equal to get benefits from either. So red creatures won't help green devotion. I think this set is going to push mono color or 2 color decks well.
Goaswerfraiejen Member	posted August 27, 2013 01:49 PM I like the design of the God cards so far. To my mind, that's closer to what Planeswalkers should have been like (I still don't like them!). And, although the blue God might not see widespread play, I suspect that the black and green ones might, and may well have a chance at Legacy playability, depending on their abilities. __________________ "I have heard the mermaids singing, each to each. I do not think they will sing to me." -T.S. Eliot RIP Ari Legacy UGB River Rock primer. PM comments/questions. Info on grad school in Phil.
Zeckk Member	posted August 27, 2013 03:15 PM If the red god grants all creatures haste, and costs 4 or less, and retains the whole indestructible bit (yeah that's a ton of "ifs"), it should be quite playable. But at this point, who knows which characteristics are in the entire cycle of god cards. Something I didn't think about earlier... Sphere of Safety.dec might be a thing after rotation. Already got abundant growth and mana bloom, might be we see a some form of standard enchantress as well.
Volcanon Member	posted August 27, 2013 03:16 PM I hope they are all really expensive mana-wise and have unrealistic requirements so I don't 'just lose' when my opponent plays one against me in limited.

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