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revenger
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quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
This card is absurdly powerful. Especially in cube.

http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1380


Have some packs of Homelands ready just incase you don't draw the Stocking Tiger. If you do draw it, wow, the choices, packs of Saga on standby?

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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
Build a practical deck that uses non-pimp cards and make the total 6K. I bet you can't. I stalled on 4K

It's tough, but doable. The basic cards in a 5cc control/combo will set you back a few grand.

10 fetches
10 duals
wasteland
tabernacle
bazaar
cradle
mana crypt
grim tutor
imperial seal
fow
mana drain
timetwister

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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
It's tough, but doable. The basic cards in a 5cc control/combo will set you back a few grand.

10 fetches
10 duals
wasteland
tabernacle
bazaar
cradle
mana crypt
grim tutor
imperial seal
fow
mana drain
timetwister


You're using Mana Drain, Timetwister and Force in a deck that is also using Cradle? That's not going to be good at all!

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Devonin:
You're using Mana Drain, Timetwister and Force in a deck that is also using Cradle? That's not going to be good at all!

You mean it's going to be too good!

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Devonin:
You're using Mana Drain, Timetwister and Force in a deck that is also using Cradle? That's not going to be good at all!

Cradle is bonker with Sliver Queen as your general.

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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
It's tough, but doable. The basic cards in a 5cc control/combo will set you back a few grand.

10 fetches
10 duals
wasteland
tabernacle
bazaar
cradle
mana crypt
grim tutor
imperial seal
fow
mana drain
timetwister


This isn't even 3k?

 
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Gonna draft some Theros tonight with some buds...and have a few Rum and Cokes tonight too

Edit: Will probably play some EDH too!

~MM

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Devonin
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
This isn't even 3k?

And you don't think you can't get to the other 3k in the rest of the deck?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Gonna draft some Theros tonight with some buds...and have a few Rum and Cokes tonight too

Edit: Will probably play some EDH too!

~MM


Always fun, except I'm more of a Vodka and OJ person.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Gonna draft some Theros tonight with some buds...and have a few Rum and Cokes tonight too

Edit: Will probably play some EDH too!

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Pack 1 pick 1:
Master of Waves
Pick 2:
Grey Merchant
Pick 3:
Grey Merchant

Pack 2 Pick 1:
Hero's Downfall

Wound up with 3x Merchants, 3x Tormented Hero

Played Heavy black, splash of blue. Went 2-1. Was a good time though!

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oneofchaos
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quote:
Originally posted by Devonin:
And you don't think you can't get to the other 3k in the rest of the deck?

I couldn't crack 6k. But kudos to anyone who could.

 
coasterdude84
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
I couldn't crack 6k. But kudos to anyone who could.

I was just being a smart-ass with my comment before, but if I have some time tonight I'll take a crack at it. I'll also have to see what's legal in EDH since I don't play and have 0 knowledge about it, but an average of $60/card doesn't seem too far-fetched.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by coasterdude84:
I was just being a smart-ass with my comment before, but if I have some time tonight I'll take a crack at it. I'll also have to see what's legal in EDH since I don't play and have 0 knowledge about it, but an average of $60/card doesn't seem too far-fetched.

I got to 6.7k in SCG retail value after 70 cards, and some of those cards are not even in NM condition. If I assume market value is roughly 75% of SCG's retail, that's 5k accounted for already. With another 30 slots to go, it's not difficult to get that extra k in there.

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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
I got to 6.7k in SCG retail value after 70 cards, and some of those cards are not even in NM condition. If I assume market value is roughly 75% of SCG's retail, that's 5k accounted for already. With another 30 slots to go, it's not difficult to get that extra k in there.


I was using the least "pimp" version of everything possible, not sure if you accounted for that (as I mentioned above). Regardless, the fact it's been a few days and somebody hasn't windmill slammed a decklist shows it ain't easy.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
I was using the least "pimp" version of everything possible, not sure if you accounted for that (as I mentioned above). Regardless, the fact it's been a few days and somebody hasn't windmill slammed a decklist shows it ain't easy.


Everything is non foil, unless there is a foil version that is cheaper, such as FTV. All duals are from Revised, and nothing from Alpha/Beta. The only unlimited cards are Timetwister and Berserk. The only restriction I had when I put the list together is, everything must be in English, NM and tournament legal, or else this is all moot because we can always claim that little Johnny's Underground Sea which went through the washing machine half a dozen times is only worth $10.

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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
Everything is non foil, unless there is a foil version that is cheaper, such as FTV. All duals are from Revised, and nothing from Alpha/Beta. The only unlimited cards are Timetwister and Berserk. The only restriction I had when I put the list together is, everything must be in English, NM and tournament legal, or else this is all moot because we can always claim that little Johnny's Underground Sea which went through the washing machine half a dozen times is only worth $10.


What's your 70 card list look like?

 
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its possible to play EDH w/ boring cards? non-foil, non-beta, non-fbb, etc... yuck!!!
 
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quote:
Originally posted by caquaa:
its possible to play EDH w/ boring cards? non-foil, non-beta, non-fbb, etc... yuck!!!

Elitest Snob

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Vegas10:
Elitest Snob

EDH is funner with weaker decks. Stronger decks are often the same handful of cards over and over again like sneak attack, terrastrodon, eldrazi, blightsteel, etc.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
What's your 70 card list look like?

Here is the entire deck:

Commander:
Sliver Queen $49.99

Lands:
Arid Mesa $39.99
Badlands $79.99
Bayou $119.99
Bazaar of Baghdad $299.99
Bloodstained Mire $49.99
Boseiju, Who Shelters All $5.99
City of Brass $4.99
Commander Tower $3.99
Flooded Strand $79.99
Gaea's Cradle $149.99
Horizon Canopy $29.99
Island $0.49
Marsh Flats $34.99
Misty Rainforest $54.99
Phyrexian Tower $14.99
Plains $0.25
Plateau $49.99
Polluted Delta $99.99
Reflecting Pool $11.99
Rishadan Port $74.99
Savannah $89.99
Scalding Tarn $54.99
Scrubland $89.99
Strip Mine $4.99
Swamp $0.25
Taiga $79.99
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale $499.99
Tropical Island $119.99
Tundra $129.99
Underground Sea $199.99
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth $19.99
Verdant Catacombs $39.99
Volcanic Island $149.99
Volrath's Stronghold $24.99
Wasteland $69.99
Windswept Heath $49.99
Wooded Foothills $49.99

Creatures:
Academy Rector $19.99
Auriok Salvagers $0.49
Avacyn, Angel of Hope $14.99
Dark Confidant $79.99
Imperial Recruiter $129.99
Karmic Guide $3.99
Loyal Retainers $39.99
Noble Hierarch $34.99
Gilded Drake $19.99
Snapcaster Mage $19.99
Squee, Goblin Nabob $4.99
Tarmogoyf $139.99
Vendilion Clique $49.99
Wonder $0.99

Sorceries:
Armageddon $3.99
Capture of Jingzhou $249.99
Damnation $29.99
Demonic Tutor $14.99
Grim Tutor $199.99
Imperial Seal $699.99
Ravages of War $299.99
Replenish $12.99
Rolling Earthquake $199.99
Temporal Manipulation $69.99
Timetwister $399.99
Time Warp $7.99
Vindicate $29.99
Wheel of Fortune $19.99

Instants:
Berserk $59.99
Brainstorm $1.99
Enlightened Tutor $14.99
Entomb $19.99
Force of Will $79.99
Intuition $39.99
Mana Drain $199.99
Misdirection $24.99
Mystical Tutor $6.99
Stifle $29.99
Vampiric Tutor $24.99

Artifacts:
Candelabra of Tawnos $299.99
Coalition Relic $4.99
Crucible of Worlds $29.99
Forcefield $99.99
Grim Monolith $24.99
Lion's Eye Diamond $79.99
Mana Crypt $119.99
Mox Diamond $34.99
Scroll Rack $19.99
Sensei's Divining Top $19.99
Sol Ring $9.99
Skullclamp $3.99
Umezawa's Jitte $29.99


Enchantments:
Moat $349.99
Neither Void $199.99
Pernicious Deed $24.99
Power Artifact $19.99
Purphoros, God of the Forge $7.99
Slyvan Library $17.99
Survival of the Fittest $29.99
The Abyss $199.99

Planeswalkers:
Jace, the Mind Sculptor $99.99
Liliana of the Veil $49.99

Total SCG Retail: $8,016.52

75% of SCG Retail: $6012.39

This is by no means the best deck in the world, and there are many decks that can perform better for half its costs, but if you give me 6k to spend on an un-pimp EDH deck that actually does something with the cards and have synergies, it's not impossible.

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quote:
Originally posted by Vegas10:
Elitest Snob

but of course ;p

I don't go all out, but I try to just own a nice selection so when I build a deck I enjoy the cards I play with. I don't really like good stuff decks tho. Even if my decks are powerful, I try and have cards that are very synergistic and typically try and find cards that are only good with any one particular general.

Building an EDH deck is a lot of work tho, and I haven't really felt up to it recently. Maybe soon... we'll see.

 
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Is Theros not in the search engine?!
 
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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
Here is the entire deck:

Commander:
Sliver Queen $49.99

Lands:
Arid Mesa $39.99
Badlands $79.99
Bayou $119.99
Bazaar of Baghdad $299.99
Bloodstained Mire $49.99
Boseiju, Who Shelters All $5.99
City of Brass $4.99
Commander Tower $3.99
Flooded Strand $79.99
Gaea's Cradle $149.99
Horizon Canopy $29.99
Island $0.49
Marsh Flats $34.99
Misty Rainforest $54.99
Phyrexian Tower $14.99
Plains $0.25
Plateau $49.99
Polluted Delta $99.99
Reflecting Pool $11.99
Rishadan Port $74.99
Savannah $89.99
Scalding Tarn $54.99
Scrubland $89.99
Strip Mine $4.99
Swamp $0.25
Taiga $79.99
The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale $499.99
Tropical Island $119.99
Tundra $129.99
Underground Sea $199.99
Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth $19.99
Verdant Catacombs $39.99
Volcanic Island $149.99
Volrath's Stronghold $24.99
Wasteland $69.99
Windswept Heath $49.99
Wooded Foothills $49.99

Creatures:
Academy Rector $19.99
Auriok Salvagers $0.49
Avacyn, Angel of Hope $14.99
Dark Confidant $79.99
Imperial Recruiter $129.99
Karmic Guide $3.99
Loyal Retainers $39.99
Noble Hierarch $34.99
Gilded Drake $19.99
Snapcaster Mage $19.99
Squee, Goblin Nabob $4.99
Tarmogoyf $139.99
Vendilion Clique $49.99
Wonder $0.99

Sorceries:
Armageddon $3.99
Capture of Jingzhou $249.99
Damnation $29.99
Demonic Tutor $14.99
Grim Tutor $199.99
Imperial Seal $699.99
Ravages of War $299.99
Replenish $12.99
Rolling Earthquake $199.99
Temporal Manipulation $69.99
Timetwister $399.99
Time Warp $7.99
Vindicate $29.99
Wheel of Fortune $19.99

Instants:
Berserk $59.99
Brainstorm $1.99
Enlightened Tutor $14.99
Entomb $19.99
Force of Will $79.99
Intuition $39.99
Mana Drain $199.99
Misdirection $24.99
Mystical Tutor $6.99
Stifle $29.99
Vampiric Tutor $24.99

Artifacts:
Candelabra of Tawnos $299.99
Coalition Relic $4.99
Crucible of Worlds $29.99
Forcefield $99.99
Grim Monolith $24.99
Lion's Eye Diamond $79.99
Mana Crypt $119.99
Mox Diamond $34.99
Scroll Rack $19.99
Sensei's Divining Top $19.99
Sol Ring $9.99
Skullclamp $3.99
Umezawa's Jitte $29.99


Enchantments:
Moat $349.99
Neither Void $199.99
Pernicious Deed $24.99
Power Artifact $19.99
Purphoros, God of the Forge $7.99
Slyvan Library $17.99
Survival of the Fittest $29.99
The Abyss $199.99

Planeswalkers:
Jace, the Mind Sculptor $99.99
Liliana of the Veil $49.99

Total SCG Retail: $8,016.52

75% of SCG Retail: $6012.39

This is by no means the best deck in the world, and there are many decks that can perform better for half its costs, but if you give me 6k to spend on an un-pimp EDH deck that actually does something with the cards and have synergies, it's not impossible.


Deck needs Mana Echoes. Sliver Queen + Mana Echoes + Purphoros for the combo win.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by rats60:
Deck needs Mana Echoes. Sliver Queen + Mana Echoes + Purphoros for the combo win.

It already has an infinite mana combo in the deck.

Auriok Salvagers + LED.

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quote:
Originally posted by stu55:
Is Theros not in the search engine?!

I don't even think M14 is in there yet.

Seriously...I love this site, but it's pretty much become useless for finding new stuff without seriously having to weed through some very general search results.

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