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Topic: Post for Magic Stuff #84, Halloween Edition!
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revenger Member
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posted December 06, 2013 02:43 PM

quote: Originally posted by Volcanon: This card is absurdly powerful. Especially in cube.http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/arcana/1380
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junichi Moderator
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posted December 06, 2013 03:09 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: Build a practical deck that uses non-pimp cards and make the total 6K. I bet you can't. I stalled on 4K
It's tough, but doable. The basic cards in a 5cc control/combo will set you back a few grand. 10 fetches 10 duals wasteland tabernacle bazaar cradle mana crypt grim tutor imperial seal fow mana drain timetwister __________________ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻"The enemy has been destroyed, sir. So have the forest, the city, your palace, your dog . . ." —Keldon soldier
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Devonin Member
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posted December 06, 2013 04:18 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by junichi: It's tough, but doable. The basic cards in a 5cc control/combo will set you back a few grand. 10 fetches 10 duals wasteland tabernacle bazaar cradle mana crypt grim tutor imperial seal fow mana drain timetwister
You're using Mana Drain, Timetwister and Force in a deck that is also using Cradle? That's not going to be good at all!
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choco man Member
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posted December 06, 2013 05:12 PM

quote: Originally posted by Devonin: You're using Mana Drain, Timetwister and Force in a deck that is also using Cradle? That's not going to be good at all!
You mean it's going to be too good!
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junichi Moderator
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posted December 06, 2013 08:37 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by Devonin: You're using Mana Drain, Timetwister and Force in a deck that is also using Cradle? That's not going to be good at all!
Cradle is bonker with Sliver Queen as your general. __________________ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻"The enemy has been destroyed, sir. So have the forest, the city, your palace, your dog . . ." —Keldon soldier
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oneofchaos Member
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posted December 07, 2013 01:15 PM

quote: Originally posted by junichi: It's tough, but doable. The basic cards in a 5cc control/combo will set you back a few grand. 10 fetches 10 duals wasteland tabernacle bazaar cradle mana crypt grim tutor imperial seal fow mana drain timetwister
This isn't even 3k?
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MeddlingMage Member
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posted December 07, 2013 02:07 PM
  
Gonna draft some Theros tonight with some buds...and have a few Rum and Cokes tonight too  Edit: Will probably play some EDH too! ~MM __________________ Blah, blah, blah werewolf. Smackity-smack not a werewolf. Suspicious of this fruit loop. My vote this round will be for Player X.New keeper of the Logout button
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Devonin Member
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posted December 07, 2013 06:14 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: This isn't even 3k?
And you don't think you can't get to the other 3k in the rest of the deck?
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Vegas10 Member
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posted December 07, 2013 07:56 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by MeddlingMage: Gonna draft some Theros tonight with some buds...and have a few Rum and Cokes tonight too  Edit: Will probably play some EDH too! ~MM
Always fun, except I'm more of a Vodka and OJ person.
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MeddlingMage Member
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posted December 07, 2013 10:57 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by MeddlingMage: Gonna draft some Theros tonight with some buds...and have a few Rum and Cokes tonight too  Edit: Will probably play some EDH too! ~MM
Pack 1 pick 1: Master of Waves Pick 2: Grey Merchant Pick 3: Grey Merchant Pack 2 Pick 1: Hero's Downfall Wound up with 3x Merchants, 3x Tormented Hero Played Heavy black, splash of blue. Went 2-1. Was a good time though! ~MM __________________ Blah, blah, blah werewolf. Smackity-smack not a werewolf. Suspicious of this fruit loop. My vote this round will be for Player X.New keeper of the Logout button
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oneofchaos Member
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posted December 08, 2013 05:26 PM

quote: Originally posted by Devonin: And you don't think you can't get to the other 3k in the rest of the deck?
I couldn't crack 6k. But kudos to anyone who could.
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coasterdude84 Member
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posted December 09, 2013 01:27 PM

quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: I couldn't crack 6k. But kudos to anyone who could.
I was just being a smart-ass with my comment before, but if I have some time tonight I'll take a crack at it. I'll also have to see what's legal in EDH since I don't play and have 0 knowledge about it, but an average of $60/card doesn't seem too far-fetched.
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junichi Moderator
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posted December 09, 2013 02:33 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by coasterdude84: I was just being a smart-ass with my comment before, but if I have some time tonight I'll take a crack at it. I'll also have to see what's legal in EDH since I don't play and have 0 knowledge about it, but an average of $60/card doesn't seem too far-fetched.
I got to 6.7k in SCG retail value after 70 cards, and some of those cards are not even in NM condition. If I assume market value is roughly 75% of SCG's retail, that's 5k accounted for already. With another 30 slots to go, it's not difficult to get that extra k in there. __________________ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻"The enemy has been destroyed, sir. So have the forest, the city, your palace, your dog . . ." —Keldon soldier
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oneofchaos Member
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posted December 09, 2013 03:54 PM

quote: Originally posted by junichi: I got to 6.7k in SCG retail value after 70 cards, and some of those cards are not even in NM condition. If I assume market value is roughly 75% of SCG's retail, that's 5k accounted for already. With another 30 slots to go, it's not difficult to get that extra k in there.
I was using the least "pimp" version of everything possible, not sure if you accounted for that (as I mentioned above). Regardless, the fact it's been a few days and somebody hasn't windmill slammed a decklist shows it ain't easy.
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junichi Moderator
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posted December 09, 2013 04:26 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: I was using the least "pimp" version of everything possible, not sure if you accounted for that (as I mentioned above). Regardless, the fact it's been a few days and somebody hasn't windmill slammed a decklist shows it ain't easy.
Everything is non foil, unless there is a foil version that is cheaper, such as FTV. All duals are from Revised, and nothing from Alpha/Beta. The only unlimited cards are Timetwister and Berserk. The only restriction I had when I put the list together is, everything must be in English, NM and tournament legal, or else this is all moot because we can always claim that little Johnny's Underground Sea which went through the washing machine half a dozen times is only worth $10. __________________ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻"The enemy has been destroyed, sir. So have the forest, the city, your palace, your dog . . ." —Keldon soldier
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oneofchaos Member
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posted December 09, 2013 06:02 PM

quote: Originally posted by junichi: Everything is non foil, unless there is a foil version that is cheaper, such as FTV. All duals are from Revised, and nothing from Alpha/Beta. The only unlimited cards are Timetwister and Berserk. The only restriction I had when I put the list together is, everything must be in English, NM and tournament legal, or else this is all moot because we can always claim that little Johnny's Underground Sea which went through the washing machine half a dozen times is only worth $10.
What's your 70 card list look like?
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caquaa Member
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posted December 09, 2013 06:48 PM
  
its possible to play EDH w/ boring cards? non-foil, non-beta, non-fbb, etc... yuck!!!
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Vegas10 Member
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posted December 09, 2013 08:19 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by caquaa: its possible to play EDH w/ boring cards? non-foil, non-beta, non-fbb, etc... yuck!!!
Elitest Snob 
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Volcanon Member
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posted December 09, 2013 08:43 PM

quote: Originally posted by Vegas10: Elitest Snob 
EDH is funner with weaker decks. Stronger decks are often the same handful of cards over and over again like sneak attack, terrastrodon, eldrazi, blightsteel, etc.
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junichi Moderator
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posted December 09, 2013 08:47 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by oneofchaos: What's your 70 card list look like?
Here is the entire deck: Commander: Sliver Queen $49.99 Lands: Arid Mesa $39.99 Badlands $79.99 Bayou $119.99 Bazaar of Baghdad $299.99 Bloodstained Mire $49.99 Boseiju, Who Shelters All $5.99 City of Brass $4.99 Commander Tower $3.99 Flooded Strand $79.99 Gaea's Cradle $149.99 Horizon Canopy $29.99 Island $0.49 Marsh Flats $34.99 Misty Rainforest $54.99 Phyrexian Tower $14.99 Plains $0.25 Plateau $49.99 Polluted Delta $99.99 Reflecting Pool $11.99 Rishadan Port $74.99 Savannah $89.99 Scalding Tarn $54.99 Scrubland $89.99 Strip Mine $4.99 Swamp $0.25 Taiga $79.99 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale $499.99 Tropical Island $119.99 Tundra $129.99 Underground Sea $199.99 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth $19.99 Verdant Catacombs $39.99 Volcanic Island $149.99 Volrath's Stronghold $24.99 Wasteland $69.99 Windswept Heath $49.99 Wooded Foothills $49.99 Creatures: Academy Rector $19.99 Auriok Salvagers $0.49 Avacyn, Angel of Hope $14.99 Dark Confidant $79.99 Imperial Recruiter $129.99 Karmic Guide $3.99 Loyal Retainers $39.99 Noble Hierarch $34.99 Gilded Drake $19.99 Snapcaster Mage $19.99 Squee, Goblin Nabob $4.99 Tarmogoyf $139.99 Vendilion Clique $49.99 Wonder $0.99 Sorceries: Armageddon $3.99 Capture of Jingzhou $249.99 Damnation $29.99 Demonic Tutor $14.99 Grim Tutor $199.99 Imperial Seal $699.99 Ravages of War $299.99 Replenish $12.99 Rolling Earthquake $199.99 Temporal Manipulation $69.99 Timetwister $399.99 Time Warp $7.99 Vindicate $29.99 Wheel of Fortune $19.99 Instants: Berserk $59.99 Brainstorm $1.99 Enlightened Tutor $14.99 Entomb $19.99 Force of Will $79.99 Intuition $39.99 Mana Drain $199.99 Misdirection $24.99 Mystical Tutor $6.99 Stifle $29.99 Vampiric Tutor $24.99 Artifacts: Candelabra of Tawnos $299.99 Coalition Relic $4.99 Crucible of Worlds $29.99 Forcefield $99.99 Grim Monolith $24.99 Lion's Eye Diamond $79.99 Mana Crypt $119.99 Mox Diamond $34.99 Scroll Rack $19.99 Sensei's Divining Top $19.99 Sol Ring $9.99 Skullclamp $3.99 Umezawa's Jitte $29.99 Enchantments: Moat $349.99 Neither Void $199.99 Pernicious Deed $24.99 Power Artifact $19.99 Purphoros, God of the Forge $7.99 Slyvan Library $17.99 Survival of the Fittest $29.99 The Abyss $199.99 Planeswalkers: Jace, the Mind Sculptor $99.99 Liliana of the Veil $49.99 Total SCG Retail: $8,016.52 75% of SCG Retail: $6012.39 This is by no means the best deck in the world, and there are many decks that can perform better for half its costs, but if you give me 6k to spend on an un-pimp EDH deck that actually does something with the cards and have synergies, it's not impossible. __________________ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻"The enemy has been destroyed, sir. So have the forest, the city, your palace, your dog . . ." —Keldon soldier
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caquaa Member
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posted December 09, 2013 08:49 PM
  
quote: Originally posted by Vegas10: Elitest Snob 
but of course ;p I don't go all out, but I try to just own a nice selection so when I build a deck I enjoy the cards I play with. I don't really like good stuff decks tho. Even if my decks are powerful, I try and have cards that are very synergistic and typically try and find cards that are only good with any one particular general. Building an EDH deck is a lot of work tho, and I haven't really felt up to it recently. Maybe soon... we'll see.
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stu55 Member
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posted December 10, 2013 07:09 AM
  
Is Theros not in the search engine?!
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rats60 Member
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posted December 10, 2013 10:58 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by junichi: Here is the entire deck:Commander: Sliver Queen $49.99 Lands: Arid Mesa $39.99 Badlands $79.99 Bayou $119.99 Bazaar of Baghdad $299.99 Bloodstained Mire $49.99 Boseiju, Who Shelters All $5.99 City of Brass $4.99 Commander Tower $3.99 Flooded Strand $79.99 Gaea's Cradle $149.99 Horizon Canopy $29.99 Island $0.49 Marsh Flats $34.99 Misty Rainforest $54.99 Phyrexian Tower $14.99 Plains $0.25 Plateau $49.99 Polluted Delta $99.99 Reflecting Pool $11.99 Rishadan Port $74.99 Savannah $89.99 Scalding Tarn $54.99 Scrubland $89.99 Strip Mine $4.99 Swamp $0.25 Taiga $79.99 The Tabernacle at Pendrell Vale $499.99 Tropical Island $119.99 Tundra $129.99 Underground Sea $199.99 Urborg, Tomb of Yawgmoth $19.99 Verdant Catacombs $39.99 Volcanic Island $149.99 Volrath's Stronghold $24.99 Wasteland $69.99 Windswept Heath $49.99 Wooded Foothills $49.99 Creatures: Academy Rector $19.99 Auriok Salvagers $0.49 Avacyn, Angel of Hope $14.99 Dark Confidant $79.99 Imperial Recruiter $129.99 Karmic Guide $3.99 Loyal Retainers $39.99 Noble Hierarch $34.99 Gilded Drake $19.99 Snapcaster Mage $19.99 Squee, Goblin Nabob $4.99 Tarmogoyf $139.99 Vendilion Clique $49.99 Wonder $0.99 Sorceries: Armageddon $3.99 Capture of Jingzhou $249.99 Damnation $29.99 Demonic Tutor $14.99 Grim Tutor $199.99 Imperial Seal $699.99 Ravages of War $299.99 Replenish $12.99 Rolling Earthquake $199.99 Temporal Manipulation $69.99 Timetwister $399.99 Time Warp $7.99 Vindicate $29.99 Wheel of Fortune $19.99 Instants: Berserk $59.99 Brainstorm $1.99 Enlightened Tutor $14.99 Entomb $19.99 Force of Will $79.99 Intuition $39.99 Mana Drain $199.99 Misdirection $24.99 Mystical Tutor $6.99 Stifle $29.99 Vampiric Tutor $24.99 Artifacts: Candelabra of Tawnos $299.99 Coalition Relic $4.99 Crucible of Worlds $29.99 Forcefield $99.99 Grim Monolith $24.99 Lion's Eye Diamond $79.99 Mana Crypt $119.99 Mox Diamond $34.99 Scroll Rack $19.99 Sensei's Divining Top $19.99 Sol Ring $9.99 Skullclamp $3.99 Umezawa's Jitte $29.99 Enchantments: Moat $349.99 Neither Void $199.99 Pernicious Deed $24.99 Power Artifact $19.99 Purphoros, God of the Forge $7.99 Slyvan Library $17.99 Survival of the Fittest $29.99 The Abyss $199.99 Planeswalkers: Jace, the Mind Sculptor $99.99 Liliana of the Veil $49.99 Total SCG Retail: $8,016.52 75% of SCG Retail: $6012.39 This is by no means the best deck in the world, and there are many decks that can perform better for half its costs, but if you give me 6k to spend on an un-pimp EDH deck that actually does something with the cards and have synergies, it's not impossible.
Deck needs Mana Echoes. Sliver Queen + Mana Echoes + Purphoros for the combo win.
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junichi Moderator
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posted December 10, 2013 11:09 AM
  
quote: Originally posted by rats60: Deck needs Mana Echoes. Sliver Queen + Mana Echoes + Purphoros for the combo win.
It already has an infinite mana combo in the deck.  Auriok Salvagers + LED. __________________ (╯°□°)╯︵ ┻━┻"The enemy has been destroyed, sir. So have the forest, the city, your palace, your dog . . ." —Keldon soldier
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iccarus Member
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posted December 10, 2013 06:30 PM

quote: Originally posted by stu55: Is Theros not in the search engine?!
I don't even think M14 is in there yet. Seriously...I love this site, but it's pretty much become useless for finding new stuff without seriously having to weed through some very general search results. __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air!I collect Granite Gargoyles. Send them my way.
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