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Topic: Post for Magic Stuff #90 - Storm is coming
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dfitzg88
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posted January 28, 2016 07:39 PM
        
Ice Age block, Innistrad Block, M14Delver of Secrets
Young Pyromancer
Snapcaster Mage Force of Will
Counterspell
Brainstorm
Thought Scour
Shock
Incinerate
Rune Snag
Runechanter's Pike SB Probably Just Ancient Grudge/Hydroblast/Pyroblast/Jace Memory Adept/Chandra Pyromaster/Pyroclasm
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choco man
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posted January 28, 2016 10:18 PM
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Originally posted by dfitzg88:
Ice Age block, Innistrad Block, M14Delver of Secrets
Young Pyromancer
Snapcaster Mage Force of Will
Counterspell
Brainstorm
Thought Scour
Shock
Incinerate
Rune Snag
Runechanter's Pike SB Probably Just Ancient Grudge/Hydroblast/Pyroblast/Jace Memory Adept/Chandra Pyromaster/Pyroclasm
How do you feel about Brainstorm without shuffle? The mana that is available from those sets? Playing against a Green deck? Delver does seem like a very good shell though. Swap Ice Age for Khans, and you get fetches and Mentor. You can use 5th Ed for Brainstorm or one of the M12/13/14 for either ponder or preordain instead?
[Edited 1 times, lastly by choco man on January 28, 2016]
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aethertech
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posted January 28, 2016 10:25 PM
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Originally posted by dfitzg88:
Ice Age block, Innistrad Block, M14Delver of Secrets
Young Pyromancer
Snapcaster Mage Force of Will
Counterspell
Brainstorm
Thought Scour
Shock
Incinerate
Rune Snag
Runechanter's Pike SB Probably Just Ancient Grudge/Hydroblast/Pyroblast/Jace Memory Adept/Chandra Pyromaster/Pyroclasm
Disperse or Essence scatter seems better than Incinerate for this deck. (And fuels Force.) And I think I'd replace Thought Scour with Clairvoyance (slow cantrip, but gives information on their hand.) Also, Portent, Power Sink, Swords. Arcane Denial, and Martyr of Frost can work as well. Also.. Geist of St. Traft, Temporal Mastery (got Brainstorm anyway, and would kinda work with Clarivoyance, Portent, and Arcane Denial,) Dissipate is also a thing. Black is also ridiculously easy to splash when you've got access to pain lands and Innistrad lands anyway - Lingering Souls, Sorin, Lord of Innistrad would also be a good sideboard card. UW; or UW/b seems best for IA/Inn/M14
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Pail42
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posted January 28, 2016 10:30 PM
Was Necropotence ever banned in type 2? All I can only find it banned in other formats.
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dwiz
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posted January 29, 2016 04:04 AM
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Originally posted by choco man:
All of the Affinity pieces were banned in standard and block. I kinda want to do UG Madness or UB Tog. Those are really strong decks that are entirely contained within a single block. Seems like a good start to just add things here and there. But I didn't play back then and have absolutely no idea where to begin building. This isn't a supported format so testing is pretty much nil until the day of the event. Half the fun is brewing but I don't want to waste my time on a pile though. 
Untested formats usually bow to burn. Hellspark elemental, goblin guide, plated geopede, etc might be ok. Blood moon would probably wreck.
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dfitzg88
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posted January 29, 2016 04:45 AM
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Originally posted by choco man:
How do you feel about Brainstorm without shuffle? The mana that is available from those sets? Playing against a Green deck?Delver does seem like a very good shell though. Swap Ice Age for Khans, and you get fetches and Mentor. You can use 5th Ed for Brainstorm or one of the M12/13/14 for either ponder or preordain instead?
the mana is god awful which is why thought scour is in there. Snow basics though. How can you even be mad at running them? Probably 1-2 Ghost Quarter, 1 Mutavault, 1 Desolate Lighthouse, 4 Sulfur Falls, and even 2 evolving wilds to shuffle sadly. The only reason I picked those was to meet my goal, which is to play Delver and Young Pyromancer. I think building BYOS is basically a game of; what cards do i REALLY want to play and what sets have the best shell to build around it
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sys41o
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posted January 29, 2016 02:51 PM
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Originally posted by Pail42:
Was Necropotence ever banned in type 2? All I can only find it banned in other formats.
To my knowledge Necropotence was banned near the end of its life in Standard after the Summer of Black Death made standard painfully boring to play. I could be wrong though because I stopped playing for the last bit of standard when Necropotence was legal because standard was very boring when you either played against Necropotence decks or Stasis decks.
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choco man
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posted January 29, 2016 07:42 PM
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Originally posted by dwiz:
Untested formats usually bow to burn. Hellspark elemental, goblin guide, plated geopede, etc might be ok. Blood moon would probably wreck.
Those aren't burn spells though. quote:
Originally posted by dfitzg88:
The only reason I picked those was to meet my goal, which is to play Delver and Young Pyromancer. I think building BYOS is basically a game of; what cards do i REALLY want to play and what sets have the best shell to build around it
That is a really good reason to play. Having fun is the biggest part of BYOS.
I'd love to be able to play Mythic again, and I'm trying to build a storm deck.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by choco man on January 29, 2016]
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dwiz
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posted January 30, 2016 08:07 AM
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Originally posted by choco man:
Those aren't burn spells though.That is a really good reason to play. Having fun is the biggest part of BYOS.
I'd love to be able to play Mythic again, and I'm trying to build a storm deck.
Obviously those aren't the burn spells, but they are the backup to the burst lightning, searing blaze, etc/
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choco man
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posted February 01, 2016 02:26 PM
With tempest block, you'd also get jackal pup and cursed scroll and shock and wasteland and price of progress. With mirage block, you'd get incinerate and fireblast. I havent played burn enough to think about the ramifications of picking each block.
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DJSmurfy
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posted February 05, 2016 09:42 PM
Ok, seriously now. Why the hell is Wall of Omens $8.00?
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aethertech
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posted February 05, 2016 11:10 PM
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Originally posted by DJSmurfy:
Ok, seriously now. Why the hell is Wall of Omens $8.00?
Have you seen the price for Crucible of Worlds? Quit bitching about Wall of Omens and play Wall of Blossoms instead!
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DJSmurfy
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posted February 06, 2016 09:49 AM
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Originally posted by aethertech:
Have you seen the price for Crucible of Worlds? Quit bitching about Wall of Omens and play Wall of Blossoms instead!
I have no deck that runs or needs either. Quit making assumptions when someone is curious about a price spike.
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aethertech
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posted February 06, 2016 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by DJSmurfy:
I have no deck that runs or needs either. Quit making assumptions when someone is curious about a price spike.
twas a joke ye salty cur...
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Pail42
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posted February 06, 2016 11:25 AM
Wall of omens has been climbing steadily since last summer, and started rising fast this winter. I'm not sure it's fair to call it a spike. That out of the way, there are lots of NM and LP copies on TCG player in the $6-7 range.
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Pail42
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posted February 06, 2016 11:29 AM
Eldrazi decks had the highest day 2 conversion rate for the pro-tour. Archetype seems to be tier-1. I would not be surprised if eye of ugin gets banned when SOI is released.https://twitter.com/mtggoldfish/status/696039260999323652
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skizzikmonger
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posted February 06, 2016 03:12 PM
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Originally posted by Pail42:
Eldrazi decks had the highest day 2 conversion rate for the pro-tour. Archetype seems to be tier-1. I would not be surprised if eye of ugin gets banned when SOI is released.https://twitter.com/mtggoldfish/status/696039260999323652
My money's on Temple getting banned, but I can see Eye getting the ax.
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iccarus
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posted February 06, 2016 04:15 PM
I'm so glad the twin banning made the T8 so diverse.  __________________
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MeddlingMage
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posted February 07, 2016 12:38 AM
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dfitzg88
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posted February 07, 2016 04:50 AM
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Originally posted by Pail42:
Eldrazi decks had the highest day 2 conversion rate for the pro-tour. Archetype seems to be tier-1. I would not be surprised if eye of ugin gets banned when SOI is released.https://twitter.com/mtggoldfish/status/696039260999323652
To be fair, with the day 1 meta being mostly comprised of affinity and burn, chalice of the void, spellskite, and a full set of ghost quarters probably made the deck the best pick for day 1. once the metagame adjusts, i imagine things will change.
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Vegas10
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posted February 07, 2016 06:41 AM
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Originally posted by dfitzg88:
To be fair, with the day 1 meta being mostly comprised of affinity and burn, chalice of the void, spellskite, and a full set of ghost quarters probably made the deck the best pick for day 1. once the metagame adjusts, i imagine things will change.
I hope so, but keep in mind this deck virtually has 8 solrings, 4 of which are repeatable tutors, so definitely should be on the watch list as of right now.
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sys41o
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posted February 07, 2016 08:31 AM
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Originally posted by iccarus:
I'm so glad the twin banning made the T8 so diverse.
QFT. Such a diverse format now. quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
With tempest block, you'd also get jackal pup and cursed scroll and shock and wasteland and price of progress. With mirage block, you'd get incinerate and fireblast. I havent played burn enough to think about the ramifications of picking each block.
Does the deck construction rules follow the banned rules for the block? If it does Cursed Scroll is banned in Tempest block constructed.
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dfitzg88
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posted February 07, 2016 09:32 AM
Weekly change in Standard prices looks just silly. Endless One just broke my losing streak in bad spec investments.
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1 Eldrazi Mimic 8.65 +452.00%
2 Jace, Vryn's Prodigy 74.74 +10.00%
3 Endless One 5.99 +558.00%
4 Collected Company 16.12 +34.00%
5 Kalitas, Traitor o 16.02 +28.00%
6 Reality Smasher 7.14 +36.00%
7 Kolaghan's Command 19.44 +9.00%
8 Abbot of Keral Keep 7.99 +25.00%
9 Thought-Knot Seer 14.00 +11.00%
10 Sylvan Advocate 5.10 +39.00%
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Pail42
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posted February 07, 2016 11:16 AM
Top performing decks looks more diverse than top 8.24-28 points
http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptogw/24-28-point-modern-decklists-2016-02-07 21-23 points
http://magic.wizards.com/en/events/coverage/ptogw/21-23-point-modern-decklists-2016-02-07
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Pail42
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posted February 07, 2016 11:20 AM
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Originally posted by dfitzg88:
Weekly change in Standard prices looks just silly. Endless One just broke my losing streak in bad spec investments.
Glad I got my order in on Friday morning before the prices went crazy. This could just be another hardened scales though and be back down in a month.
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