Another quick question: Is there a site that gives and/or can you give me an idea, speculatively, what decks might be flash-in-the-pan and quickly lose their value, and what decks may be legal and viable for a while? Odds are good that I'm going to either buy a netdeck outright and tinker with it from there, or trade a couple of my older cards for one, and I'd prefer not to do that if the deck has a good shot at losing most/all of its value within a few months.

So far, the decks that most match my old play style, my budget and cards I already have are leaning towards something like this Infect deck or this Kiki Chord deck.

Thanks again!

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Originally posted by GottaLoveElves:
Awesome guys, thanks! Read through those sites a bit and definitely like the way that Goldfish gives me a good idea what kind of dollar figure I'm getting into.

Another quick question: Is there a site that gives and/or can you give me an idea, speculatively, what decks might be flash-in-the-pan and quickly lose their value, and what decks may be legal and viable for a while? Odds are good that I'm going to either buy a netdeck outright and tinker with it from there, or trade a couple of my older cards for one, and I'd prefer not to do that if the deck has a good shot at losing most/all of its value within a few months.

So far, the decks that most match my old play style, my budget and cards I already have are leaning towards something like this Infect deck or this Kiki Chord deck.

Thanks again!

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There's actually a great post on that same site (mtggoldfish) about Modern being a "rotation-based" format, but that rotation is the bannings, which are unpredictable and seem to come whenever a deck rises to prominance.

Your best bet to avoid bannings long-term is probably GBx (jund or junk), but those are getting STOMPED by affinity and eldrazi. The Eldrazi deck really leans on beating up mana bases and fighting through decks light on spot removal.

Find something with a resilient mana base that either ignores big threats or has plenty of spot removal for them if you're going to face down Eldrazi, and sideboard heavily for affinity.

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Another quick question: Is there a site that gives and/or can you give me an idea, speculatively, what decks might be flash-in-the-pan and quickly lose their value, and what decks may be legal and viable for a while? Odds are good that I'm going to either buy a netdeck outright and tinker with it from there, or trade a couple of my older cards for one, and I'd prefer not to do that if the deck has a good shot at losing most/all of its value within a few months.

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LOL. With the way WotC is doing bans? Good luck. Based on the last few bannings, it cannot regularly create turn 2 or 3 kills (Infect and Eldrazi aggro are capable of this but you would need to define "regularly"), it cannot be oppressive to the diversity of the field apparently and should not contain a card that creates a field of "haves" and those trying to beat the "haves." Old examples of this would be Deathrite Shaman and Birthing Pod.

With all that said, Kiki-Chord seems supremely safe. It's essentialy a fair deck that can hang with aggro and midrange and has combo ability.

EDIT: Also, I can confirm that Jund/Junk DO NOT get slammed by Affinity.

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Btw, he was the only vendor on the internet I can find that was selling them. I bought the only other one I could find off MCM after begging the seller to ship to the states.

Fantastic.

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Eldrazi might be a flash in the pan, and a lot of people are talking about banning Eye. I don't know how much i agree with that, but 6/8 Top8 is pretty homogenous. I hope there is no emergency ban and maybe the meta shakes out to control it and no ban is required.

Play KikiChord if you think you'll like it.

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LOL. With the way WotC is doing bans? Good luck. Based on the last few bannings, it cannot regularly create turn 2 or 3 kills (Infect and Eldrazi aggro are capable of this but you would need to define "regularly"), it cannot be oppressive to the diversity of the field apparently

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Eldrazi might be a flash in the pan, and a lot of people are talking about banning Eye. I don't know how much i agree with that, but 6/8 Top8 is pretty homogenous. I hope there is no emergency ban and maybe the meta shakes out to control it and no ban is required.

Play KikiChord if you think you'll like it.

It's been said and known for ages that modern is a turn 4 format. You don't need to base this off the bans...
Oppressive to the field has always been an issue, as well.

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No **** genius. I'm letting someone else know who clearly doesn't know Modern.

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I bought 3 Korean fifth edition Karplusan forests off eBay worldwide from a guy in Singapore. Super excited to get them. They arrive and they're sulfurous springs, not Karplusan forests. Now I get to mail them back. He says he got them confused, despite the fact there is a damn photo of Korean 5th Karplusan Forest in the auction. He doesn't own any Karplusan Forest Korean 5th. Wants to know whether I would be interested in another language. Yeah, I want English ones but waited over 3 weeks from a vendor in Singapore because I was feeling rambunctious and wanted to pay $5 per card + $4 shipping for cards that (at that time) retailed for $3.

Btw, he was the only vendor on the internet I can find that was selling them. I bought the only other one I could find off MCM after begging the seller to ship to the states.

Fantastic.

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My play group has switched to Pauper EDH, and it is surprisingly fun. It is super cheap, which means I can afford to make tons of decks, and it also brings back the old school magic feel.

Really like it so far.

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I tried pauper once, turns out it's just a bunch of removal spells and some b/g decks. Regenerate is really OP in pauper.

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From my experience so far, regenerate hasn't been too useful in the meta. There are simply too many removals or bounce that ignore regenerate, and there aren't enough ground battle to make blocking with regenerate effective.

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From my experience so far, regenerate hasn't been too useful in the meta. There are simply too many removals or bounce that ignore regenerate, and there aren't enough ground battle to make blocking with regenerate effective.

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Originally posted by kingtal0n:
eternal masters has dual lands. I had a dream last night that told me so.

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Yep, one of them is called...

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Originally posted by DJSmurfy:
What the **** is even going on anymore?

I just do not understand.

This at least has the explanation of being pretty solid in 93/94.

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Three Factors I see:

-[Scorched Ruins] Legacy "Edlrazi," deck. Were Scorched Ruins has the potential to be strong - which may also see an increased in the price of both Rishadin Port and Wasteland (possibly even other worse LD lands.)

- Reserved list card buyout.

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Yep, one of them is called...

Elfhame Palace,

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I heard it was the lands like Lantern Lit Graveyard. That whole cycle as uncommons.
But it'll be the pain lands as a rare cycle. Just cuz that is wotc.
Maybe both.

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Three Factors I see:

-[Scorched Ruins] Legacy "Edlrazi," deck. Were Scorched Ruins has the potential to be strong - which may also see an increased in the price of both Rishadin Port and Wasteland (possibly even other worse LD lands.)

- Reserved list card buyout.

- Manipulation of the secondary market to abuse PucaTrade (mentioned by someone on reddit.) As well as being a common market manipulation method - buyout, and resell at the new higher price.

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At the very least...I'm glad I got Meditates for $3 just a few weeks ago, hah.

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Sweet Jesus! $47 jump?! lol

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