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MeddlingMage
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Wow so much chatter.
I for one, was glad to see ryan come back to the dark side

Unfortunately, that sentiment was not shared by the wolves.

Villagers, your votes are due Sunday Night!

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by MeddlingMage on May 01, 2009]

 
PlasteredDragon
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As mist doth cometh off the weir,
No longer is dear ryan there...
Methinks the wolves hath caught a whiff,
Of our dear boy's pregame tiff,
With XPR, exchangéd bile,
And therein lieth wolven guile...
By plying tooth to ryan's neck
They hope to make us all suspect
Dear XPR, who'se shouldered chip,
Just might make us prone to slip
A noose beneath his chin,
String him up and do him in.

But we ought not forget the saw,
From the first kill thou shalt not draw
Conclusions fathomed and complex
It often leads to stretchéd necks
Of innocents, and recrimination--
It rarely leadeth to salvation.

Suspicions? In truth I hath few,
But at this time am loathe to shew
Them and alert them I hath marked.
Best to wait 'till they embark
Upon the path and give more cause,
To suspect they walk on paws,
When the moon shines on the moor
Where ryan is not anymore.

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AlmasterGM
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posted May 01, 2009 08:07 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for AlmasterGM Send a private message to AlmasterGM Click to send AlmasterGM an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by PlasteredDragon:
As mist doth cometh off the weir,
No longer is dear ryan there...
Methinks the wolves hath caught a whiff,
Of our dear boy's pregame tiff,
With XPR, exchangéd bile,
And therein lieth wolven guile...
By plying tooth to ryan's neck
They hope to make us all suspect
Dear XPR, who'se shouldered chip,
Just might make us prone to slip
A noose beneath his chin,
String him up and do him in.

But we ought not forget the saw,
From the first kill thou shalt not draw
Conclusions fathomed and complex
It often leads to stretchéd necks
Of innocents, and recrimination--
It rarely leadeth to salvation.

Suspicions? In truth I hath few,
But at this time am loathe to shew
Them and alert them I hath marked.
Best to wait 'till they embark
Upon the path and give more cause,
To suspect they walk on paws,
When the moon shines on the moor
Where ryan is not anymore.


holy crap that is amazing.

 
Bugger
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posted May 01, 2009 08:11 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Bugger Click Here to Email Bugger Send a private message to Bugger Click to send Bugger an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by AlmasterGM:
holy crap that is amazing.

Chuck's awesome like that.
Also: dammit wolves, now I can't play with Ryan!
Thirdly: will post later, too tired now.

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Liq
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quote:
    Currently Voting :
     
  • Battle_of_Twits

quote:
    Suspicion List :
     
  • High :

    53% : Battle_of_Twits
    53% : PlasteredDragon
    52% : GottaLoveElves
     

  • Mid :

    51% : Bugger
    51% : PureGoblinBoy
    51% : Jazaray
    51% : Bernek77
    50% : Thanos
    50% : fwybwed
    50% : BernieB
    50% : AlmasterGM
     

  • Low :

    49% : Masterwolf
    49% : XplicitR
    49% : ThoughtsofLepers
    49% : JackSpade


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puregoblinboy47
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Thanos is far and away the worst citizen here. He singlehandedly ruins games. He doesn't talk, and his votes are nonsensical(sp?). There has been more than one game where he, as a cit, threw off the voting curve by going his own way in the final round showing that he would rather cause trouble than win. I say we vote for him now, since it's as likely he is a wolf as anyone at this point. And if we are wrong, we are out a detrimental cit come endgame. It's win win.


Voting Thanos.

 
ryan2754
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TO be honest, I am not even mad. This is honestly one of the first game sI have ever been either lynched or night killed within the first few rounds. I personally take it as a compliment. Go town.

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Bugger
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quote:
Originally posted by puregoblinboy47:
Thanos is far and away the worst citizen here. He singlehandedly ruins games. He doesn't talk, and his votes are nonsensical(sp?). There has been more than one game where he, as a cit, threw off the voting curve by going his own way in the final round showing that he would rather cause trouble than win. I say we vote for him now, since it's as likely he is a wolf as anyone at this point. And if we are wrong, we are out a detrimental cit come endgame. It's win win.


Voting Thanos.


I agree strongly with this (no offense intended at you personally Thanos ).
Voting Thanos.
Aaaand back to sleep for me.

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Thanos
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quote:
Originally posted by puregoblinboy47:
Thanos is far and away the worst citizen here. He singlehandedly ruins games. He doesn't talk, and his votes are nonsensical(sp?). There has been more than one game where he, as a cit, threw off the voting curve by going his own way in the final round showing that he would rather cause trouble than win. I say we vote for him now, since it's as likely he is a wolf as anyone at this point. And if we are wrong, we are out a detrimental cit come endgame. It's win win.


Voting Thanos.


PGB, I love you too

At work right now, will post thoughts later.

 
Jazaray
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I let TJ pick this time, and he's chosen B_O_T.

Voting B_O_T.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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quote:
Originally posted by puregoblinboy47:
Thanos is far and away the worst citizen here. He singlehandedly ruins games. He doesn't talk, and his votes are nonsensical(sp?). There has been more than one game where he, as a cit, threw off the voting curve by going his own way in the final round showing that he would rather cause trouble than win. I say we vote for him now, since it's as likely he is a wolf as anyone at this point. And if we are wrong, we are out a detrimental cit come endgame. It's win win.


Voting Thanos.


Umm, did I miss something? What did Thanos say besides that he was in? Not that I am all pro-Thanos or anything, but give the guy a chance, such anger can only make me think that maybe PGB is already trying to disrupt the game, I am voting PGB.

 
Bugger
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quote:
Originally posted by BernieB:
Umm, did I miss something? What did Thanos say besides that he was in? Not that I am all pro-Thanos or anything, but give the guy a chance, such anger can only make me think that maybe PGB is already trying to disrupt the game, I am voting PGB.

Recall for a moment R5 last game, please. With thanos and monty each voting on their own they handed the wolves the game. Horribly unhelpful.
And FWIW, how is this more disruptive than any other accusation in this game?

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I have to agree with everyone for the most part; when I'm a wolf, it's always a point that Thanos stays alive, because his play almost guarantees that he'll help to split up the vote, either by attracting suspicion or going off on his own.
Add to the fact that this starts entirely on a weekend, and posting volume is going to be too low to glean a hell of a lot from anyways.
I'm not sure I like giving the wolves an easy wagon, so I'm hoping the anti-Thanos sentiment comes up with a viable counterwagon. But for now, I'm with a Thanos vote as well.

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by GottaLoveElves on May 02, 2009]

 
Thanos
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
Recall for a moment R5 last game, please. With thanos and monty each voting on their own they handed the wolves the game. Horribly unhelpful.
And FWIW, how is this more disruptive than any other accusation in this game?



This a new game though, what does the last game have anything to do with it?
 
AlmasterGM
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quote:
Originally posted by Thanos:

This a new game though, what does the last game have anything to do with it?

You punted it for the cits last game - if you had just stuck with everyone else and voted for me, the cits might have won. Not that I minded , but as there's no indicator that you would change rouge behavior this game, I'm inclined to believe you'd do it again. And this game, I do mind. Since the wolves know this and are never going to kill you, you'll just become a liability later on. So I am probably voting Thanos.

That being said, though, I think there is a bit of info to be gleaned from this kill. IIRC, ryan has been solid both in the old games of Mafia (pre-breakage) and in the new games (run by Liq). It'd stand to reason that at least one of the wolves was aware of this. While that may not narrow anything down a whole lot this round, it could be useful information later on.

Edit: I just noticed I'm the fourth person to declare for Thanos. Uh oh.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by AlmasterGM on May 02, 2009]

 
ThoughtsofLepers
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Well, it looks like I'm jumping on a bandwagon. I somewhat agree with a vote for Thanos (last game was whack), but B_o_T's post really sticks out to me.

quote:
Originally posted by Battle_of_Twits:
I think we need to all quiet down before the first werewolf kill is announced. We're just giving them more information in which to sway us.

It was good advice, no doubt. But something about it just nags me. At the end of almost every game I've played in, when wolves are revealed, I always end up wishing I had followed my first instinct. It has ended up being a rather good instinct each game. So, I can't elaborate on what exactly is suspicious about the above post, (I'm not entirely sure myself) but it triggers my alarms and I'm going with my gut this time, for better or worse.

As of now, Voting Battle_of_Twits

 
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There is no doubt that Thanos's play style is bad for the cits. However, I feel as though BoT's post is the most suspicious this game up to this point.

Thanos is most likely gonna start this game out trying to start a wagon against me stating that I am not playing my normal style. Hey Tim did I do you a favor? I feel a Thanos vote might be warranted, but we should also look at a few posts up to this point.

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The vote would be better off going towards someone who is suspicious rather then someone who made a bad call LAST game.

I will most likely vote for BoT.

 
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quote:
    Currently Voting :
     
  • PureGoblinBoy

quote:
    Suspicion List :
     
  • High :

    53% : PureGoblinBoy
    53% : PlasteredDragon
    53% : GottaLoveElves
    53% : Bugger
    53% : Bernek77
     

  • Mid :

    52% : Battle_of_Twits
    51% : BernieB
    51% : AlmasterGM
    50% : fwybwed
    50% : Jazaray
     

  • Low :

    49% : Masterwolf
    49% : XplicitR
    49% : JackSpade
    48% : ThoughtsofLepers
    47% : Thanos


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I don't get why a wagon's forming on B_o_T. The guy's made one post. I haven't seen much of his playstyle, but what about advocating quietness in R0 is so amazingly suspicious? Can someone explain this to me, because I'm really not seeing anything.

WRT Liq's suspicions: I assume you are suspecting PGB because he launched off for Thanos. If you'd check the aftergame discussion of (I think it was) WW8, PGB declared from then on he'd be voting for a quiet/unhelpful cit each R1. I did as well. And both of us have been sticking to that. Furthermore, in all the games I've seen PGB play, he guns every single round for cit unity. His behaviour this game is not OOC in the slightest.

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puregoblinboy47
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quote:
Originally posted by BernieB:
Umm, did I miss something? What did Thanos say besides that he was in? Not that I am all pro-Thanos or anything, but give the guy a chance, such anger can only make me think that maybe PGB is already trying to disrupt the game, I am voting PGB.

I'm not mad at him, but he's had multiple chances to make me think he was actually in it to win it. Since he is bar none the most selfish player here, and that he is just as likely as anyone else to be a wolf, I see no reason not to make him the round one wagon.

Also, GLE makes a good point:

quote:
I have to agree with everyone for the most part; when I'm a wolf, it's always a point that Thanos stays alive, because his play almost guarantees that he'll help to split up the vote, either by attracting suspicion or going off on his own.

Keeping Thanos alive is a wolf strategy. He's that bad of a cit.

 
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I hath returned to my abode,
Here at the end of Sutter Road,
A night and day of shooting ended,
'Tis here my weary feet hath wended.

But I hath kept up with the talk
While I was on my wending walk
Twixt the wood and Willow's Marsh--
And I too thought the Goblin harsh.

Forsooth I would fain agree,
And opine much the same as he,
But first we fire across the bow,
Not ram the starboard with our prow.

Displeased is he, so should he be,
And sorely vexéd three times three,
But such burning ire doth seem awry,
And therefore hath it caught my eye.

Now rarely hath a man survivéd,
A post that soundeth most contrivéd,
Which bringeth me to BoT,
Whose pregame counsel so struck me.

And how is it no attention's laid,
Upon the jest of Jasper Spade? (#065)
Usually such a submission
Is guaranteed to stoke suspicion.

As yet no vote hath I proclaimed,
But I suspecteth those I've named,
'Tis not the will of PlasteredDragon,
To simply hop upon a wagon.

To observation I'm contented
Until my thoughts are more cemented
But do not let that cause you sorrow--
For I'll announce my vote to-morrow.

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[Edited 1 times, lastly by PlasteredDragon on May 02, 2009]

 
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Wow, i feel bad even trying to follow up Plastered Dragon's post, great job by the by .
This is a lot harder than i thought it was going to be. I have to say im probably hoping on the bandwagon and voting for thanos, still thinking about it obviously seeing what develops and all that. But I do find ThoughtsofLepers putting suspicion on BoT to be suspicious. It was a good piece of advice and it just seems strange to me that Thought would then cast suspicion on BoT for doing something helpful.
And 1 question for Liq: where do your percentages come from?
 
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Voting for Thanos.
 
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*sigh*

I strongly suggest that you don't vote for me.

 

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