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Originally posted by rayragnarok:
i'm game

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Originally posted by Liq:
I plan to start Mafia up again next week.

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Liq, you sure you don't want some help running it, with more different kinds of roles?

LMK

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Originally posted by ryan2754:
Liq, you sure you don't want some help running it, with more different kinds of roles?

LMK

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I'm willing to listen if you want to drop me a line about it.

~MM

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Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Any and all question before the new werewolf game should be asked here. New roles, interactions, anything!
I really would like 19 players for this but will play with 17.

~MM

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*The Mole- Team Werewolf
The Mole isn't actually a Werewolf, but is fascinated by the Myth of the Greater Werewolf. His main job is to try and just cause confusion. He has no special roles and does not know who the Werewolves are. He can be seen and revealed as The Mole. Werewolves can still kill him. If the Mole is alive at the end of the game, he wins it.

??? - So is it a dual win condition? Say if the wolves or cits win, both the mole (if still alive) and the winning team win...or does he win by himself?

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Originally posted by WCFmo:
*The Mole- Team Werewolf
The Mole isn't actually a Werewolf, but is fascinated by the Myth of the Greater Werewolf. His main job is to try and just cause confusion. He has no special roles and does not know who the Werewolves are. He can be seen and revealed as The Mole. Werewolves can still kill him. If the Mole is alive at the end of the game, he wins it.

??? - So is it a dual win condition? Say if the wolves or cits win, both the mole (if still alive) and the winning team win...or does he win by himself?

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~MM

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Village Elder

1. Does the village elder HAVE to check someone every night?

2. Once the village elder gets an answer to his or her question, he must reveal (and then immediately die). Even if the answer is NO?

3. Can there be more than one village elder?

As described in the rules post it sounds like all Village Elders die at the beginning of R2D if the wolves don't snuff them out R1N. Is this correct?

Seer:

1. The rules now say that the seer can determine the role of a townperson (as opposed to finding out what team they are on), so does this mean the seer can now identify village elders, angels, moles, hunters, and masons?

2. When the seer checks the wolf leader, what exactly is he told? "Vanilla cit"? Or might he be given other misleading answers like "village elder" or "mason"?

Hunter

1. What happens when the hunter chooses someone who is not a WW? Is he just told "not a WW" or does he actually kill the target?

2. Can the intervention of the angel protect a target from the hunter?

3. Assuming the hunter can kill cits, will the town be able to differentiate between hunter kills and wolf kills?

4. What happens if the hunter correctly targets a wolf when he himself is the wolves target that night?

Mole

1. Am I right in understanding that victory goes to the mole if is alive at game end regardless of all other game conditions? (i.e. what would otherwise be a wolf victory or a cit victory is awarded to the mole if he is alive?)

2. The mole is listed as being on "team werewolf" even though he seems to have his own victory conditions. Is a mole victory considered a WW victory?

General:

1. It appears we have done away with the restrictions on declaring roles. Is this correct?

2. No secret ballot voting appears to be allowed (no more PM's.) Is this correct?

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Originally posted by PlasteredDragon:
I have some questions about the new format.

Village Elder

1. Does the village elder HAVE to check someone every night?

2. Once the village elder gets an answer to his or her question, he must reveal (and then immediately die). Even if the answer is NO?

3. Can there be more than one village elder?

As described in the rules post it sounds like all Village Elders die at the beginning of R2D if the wolves don't snuff them out R1N. Is this correct?

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1. Yes. He will only be given a yes or no answer. There won't be a "Seer" or "villager" response.

2. No, he only dies when he learns the identity of the Greater Werewolf.

3. There will only be 1 Village Elder per game.

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Originally posted by PlasteredDragon:
Seer:

1. The rules now say that the seer can determine the role of a townperson (as opposed to finding out what team they are on), so does this mean the seer can now identify village elders, angels, moles, hunters, and masons?

2. When the seer checks the wolf leader, what exactly is he told? "Vanilla cit"? Or might he be given other misleading answers like "village elder" or "mason"?

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1. The will learn if the person is a villager or Werewolf (except for the Greater Werewolf which is explained in the rules). No roles will be revealed.

2. The Seer will get the answer "villager" if the Greater Werewolf is chosen.

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Originally posted by PlasteredDragon:
Hunter

1. What happens when the hunter chooses someone who is not a WW? Is he just told "not a WW" or does he actually kill the target?

2. Can the intervention of the angel protect a target from the hunter?

3. Assuming the hunter can kill cits, will the town be able to differentiate between hunter kills and wolf kills?

4. What happens if the hunter correctly targets a wolf when he himself is the wolves target that night?

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1. The player chosen by the Hunter dies. His identity will be revealed. If he chooses a WW with the 1st try, he is awarded an extra try. If he is ever wrong (ie kills a villager) no extra try is awarded.

2. No.

3. Yes, I will reveal what happened and how.

4. They will both die, and all roles will be revealed.

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Originally posted by PlasteredDragon:
Mole

1. Am I right in understanding that victory goes to the mole if is alive at game end regardless of all other game conditions? (i.e. what would otherwise be a wolf victory or a cit victory is awarded to the mole if he is alive?)

2. The mole is listed as being on "team werewolf" even though he seems to have his own victory conditions. Is a mole victory considered a WW victory?

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1. Yes.

2. No.
The Mole is out for himself, but longs to be accepted by the Greater Werewolf.

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Originally posted by PlasteredDragon:
General:

1. It appears we have done away with the restrictions on declaring roles. Is this correct?

2. No secret ballot voting appears to be allowed (no more PM's.) Is this correct?

Sorry if these are dumb questions, I just want to be clear on the rules before the game gets rolling.

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1. Yes, anyone can claim anything at any time.

2. All votes are to be placed on the thread using the voting tag - {Vote: Suspect}

No worries PD and welcome back!

~MM

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The way you have the hunter's description phrased is a bit confusing.. If he gets a ww on the first try, he gets a third try. What if he's wrong on the second try? Does the third try get taken away?

Thanks,
Jazaray

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
What will the seer get if he sees The Mole? The Angel? The Hunter? Just "villager"? Or will he get the exact role?

The way you have the hunter's description phrased is a bit confusing.. If he gets a ww on the first try, he gets a third try. What if he's wrong on the second try? Does the third try get taken away?

Thanks,
Jazaray

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He will get "villager" response. The mole is anti-villager, but they don't know that. He craves acceptance of the Werewolves.

I've re-worded the Hunter. If he is right the 1st time and nabs a WW, his reward is and extra shot. These can not be taken away. It is a limited tool and by making the first one worthy, they may not be loose with it.

~MM

Edit: The Mole can be seen. Typo..

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Either way, the seer roles sucks as we can't even trust him now. So, might as well not even have it.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
What about the angel, hunter ..etc? Does he get an actual role, or just villager?

Either way, the seer roles sucks as we can't even trust him now. So, might as well not even have it.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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I'm afraid that it's no different from having a Mafia ninja as a possibility. Besides, the elder helps a little bit and the seer can still get two out of the three of them.

The seer still is helpful, just with a little twist is all. The only WW he can't see is the Greater Werewolf.

More times than not, he'll bag a WW or a villager or 2 and still be able to share. If the Village Elder is still alive and wants to check in on the seer's confirmed, nothing stops him from doing that.

~MM

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
What about the angel, hunter ..etc? Does he get an actual role, or just villager?

Either way, the seer roles sucks as we can't even trust him now. So, might as well not even have it.

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I agree that under the current rules the village elder and the seer appear to be fairly useless, but let's try it out and see what happens. Maybe it will be better than we thought. It's a serious blow to the seer's power that he will now misidentify ww's as cits just because they are the wolf leader, and therefore any "cit" read from the seer isn't anywhere near as useful as it used to be.

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Originally posted by dakrum:
I'm afraid that it's no different from having a Mafia ninja as a possibility. Besides, the elder helps a little bit and the seer can still get two out of the three of them.

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Actually, it's totally different. The cop still sees the team of the Ninja. I just changed it for my game because about... 1/2 way through I realized that it didn't say that but I had been telling MM it worked that way.

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Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
The seer still is helpful, just with a little twist is all. The only WW he can't see is the Greater Werewolf.

More times than not, he'll bag a WW or a villager or 2 and still be able to share. If the Village Elder is still alive and wants to check in on the seer's confirmed, nothing stops him from doing that.

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He can't see the Greater Werewolf, or the Mole, so we won't be able to count on anyone seen by the seer as a villager as a confirmed cit. Just sayin'

Thanks,
Jazaray

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There was a nice lassie named Jaz
Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

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~MM

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Thanks,
Jazaray

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There was a nice lassie named Jaz
Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

WeedIan: Jazaray is like MOTL's Mom.

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
Actually, it's totally different. The cop still sees the team of the Ninja. I just changed it for my game because about... 1/2 way through I realized that it didn't say that but I had been telling MM it worked that way.

He can't see the Greater Werewolf, or the Mole, so we won't be able to count on anyone seen by the seer as a villager as a confirmed cit. Just sayin'

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Oh, I see. Thanks for clearing that up!