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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Just when I thought I'd heard it all

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**** people. Seriously, just **** people. It's things like this that makes me hate my country of origin, the "great" United States of America.

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Originally posted by AlmostGrown:
**** people. Seriously, just **** people. It's things like this that makes me hate my country of origin, the "great" United States of America.

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What do you expect? Maybe if the U S of Freaking A had universal healthcare people wouldn't bitch...as it stands even simple
S*** you go the doctor for costs 5 to 10k. We don't know the woman's injuries but who else is going to pay for her medical? I would guess that nearly everyone else is off the hook due to a variety of legal defenses. That only leaves you with the little snot nosed kid who threw it. If you notice they mention that he's on three little league teams, they also mention that the kid was a catcher throwing on a fenced in area...I assume (maybe wrongly) that the little
League doesn't have their picnic tables right next to where the pitchers warm up. Then you also read that they already received "threatening letters"...well no s$&! They are called demand letters and they basically say, please pay X or we may have to sue you. I would think that even these lawyers are not bloodsuckers, they wanted their clients expenses/out of pocket medical bills paid...but Mr Coach says nah, we shouldn't be responsible for our own actions. That's the trouble with America, it's not the people suing...it's the people who think nothing is their fault. Obviously there are two sides to this story, but claiming America is terrible because someone is claiming they were injured is bad form.

Sorry for the long drunk rant. This was typed on my phone.

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Originally posted by WCFmo:
What do you expect? Maybe if the U S of Freaking A had universal healthcare people wouldn't bitch...as it stands even simple
S*** you go the doctor for costs 5 to 10k. We don't know the woman's injuries but who else is going to pay for her medical? I would guess that nearly everyone else is off the hook due to a variety of legal defenses. That only leaves you with the little snot nosed kid who threw it. If you notice they mention that he's on three little league teams, they also mention that the kid was a catcher throwing on a fenced in area...I assume (maybe wrongly) that the little
League doesn't have their picnic tables right next to where the pitchers warm up. Then you also read that they already received "threatening letters"...well no s$&! They are called demand letters and they basically say, please pay X or we may have to sue you. I would think that even these lawyers are not bloodsuckers, they wanted their clients expenses/out of pocket medical bills paid...but Mr Coach says nah, we shouldn't be responsible for our own actions. That's the trouble with America, it's not the people suing...it's the people who think nothing is their fault. Obviously there are two sides to this story, but claiming America is terrible because someone is claiming they were injured is bad form.

Sorry for the long drunk rant. This was typed on my phone.

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You obviously have never been to a little league baseball game. Frivolous lawsuit, should get tossed. That lady and her douche of a husband are looking for a meal ticket.

And yea, its very plausible that the picnic table was right behind the bullpen. You know where the bullpen was when i played little league? Behind the 'dugout' off the field right NEXT to the picnic tables!

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
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Originally posted by WCFmo:
Did we all not read the same article? Why did you think I pointed out te fact he was on THREE little league teams? Don't you think it's bad PR to sue a kid? There is something more than meets the eye on this case...whatever. I'm intoxicated and I just had a fight with my fiancée, but the 150k thing is just a number...I imagine they would have settled for costs. Even eleven year olds can be sued, I mean some people on this forum probably would say its ok to put people to death that are under 18....

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maybe if they stole Magic cards...

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
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USA. The land of opportunities. It's news like this that freaks me out. It's like that person who sued McDonalds for pouring her a coffee that was too hot.

Here, I laughed so hard I crapped my pants. Youtube anyone?
I remember a game in which I pitched and the guy lined it into foul territory over the home-team dugout, wacking some girl on the back of her head. Even the girl's boyfriend had a hard time holding his laughter. Point is, poop happens. This woman should be made an example of. I say she has to be put up in a public square and the 11-year old gets 3 baseballs to throw at her face again.

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Originally posted by paragondave:
maybe if they stole Magic cards...

I don't know what the kid playing on 3 little league baseball teams has to do with this idiot sitting next to them warming up and not paying attention and getting bopped in her big fat stupid head! The kid's parents need to lawyer up and counter sue for legal fees and wasting their time.

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This exactly. Otherwise what the next thing will be is when a 10-year old gets hit by a pitch he'll sue the pitcher. LOL. I can see Manny Ramirez going to court being plunked by some random Cubs pitcher. That'll be the settlement.

Plus the kids gets to lob 3 free baseballs to the woman.

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Originally posted by AEther Storm:
It's like that person who sued McDonalds for pouring her a coffee that was too hot.

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Actually, saying that that case is frivolous is a common misconception. McDonald's, in fact, DID serve coffee that was waaaaaaaayyy too hot, and they knew it, they had been sued/warned about it more than 700 times before. They routinely had their coffee 30-40 degrees higher than was safe. The victim offered to settle with them for her medical costs/lost wages of $20,000, however they would not offer more than $800. The coffee caused third degree burns on her body and required skin grafts. There was a bunch of other facts about the case that makes it quite clear that McDonald's was in the wrong on this and deserved to be sued.

As for this baseball thing, I can see her suing the boy for medical costs (which, I'm sure did not even come CLOSE to 150K, especially if, using the above example, Ms Liebeck's medical AND lost wages were about 20k, and she needed skin grafts...) but the husband suing for "the loss of services, society and consortium" is ridiculous. And the Little League should definitely step up and assist this couple.

Thanks,
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Originally posted by Jazaray:
Actually, saying that that case is frivolous is a common misconception. McDonald's, in fact, DID serve coffee that was waaaaaaaayyy too hot, and they knew it, they had been sued/warned about it more than 700 times before. They routinely had their coffee 30-40 degrees higher than was safe. The victim offered to settle with them for her medical costs/lost wages of $20,000, however they would not offer more than $800. The coffee caused third degree burns on her body and required skin grafts. There was a bunch of other facts about the case that makes it quite clear that McDonald's was in the wrong on this and deserved to be sued.

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Thanks for the info Jaz. I just meant this as an example (not a very good one it seems now ) to the numerous cases in which sueing, and especially the amount sued, are absurd.

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As for this baseball thing, I can see her suing the boy for medical costs (which, I'm sure did not even come CLOSE to 150K, especially if, using the above example, Ms Liebeck's medical AND lost wages were about 20k, and she needed skin grafts...) but the husband suing for "the loss of services, society and consortium" is ridiculous. And the Little League should definitely step up and assist this couple.

Thanks,
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I agree Little League should step up to help these people, but I can't see how the kid can be sued. This is just an accident were nobody has fault. You're at a baseball game, you should watch around for flying balls/bats/stuff, especially when sitting down next to the bullpen. Hell, I've played for over 20 years in total and I was always very careful when walking around the grounds.
This would basically mean that any fan attending a baseball game catching a home-run or foulball but injuring themselves could sue the batter?

I wonder if those people sueing have any friends that are saying they shouldn't..

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Originally posted by AEther Storm:
Thanks for the info Jaz. I just meant this as an example (not a very good one it seems now ) to the numerous cases in which sueing, and especially the amount sued, are absurd.

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I think a better example would be the guy who sued a dry cleaners in DC for losing his pants which violated their "Satisfaction Guaranteed" sign. The mistakenly sent the pants to another store, got them back a number of days after they had promised them to him, he said they weren't his and wanted $1000 from them. When they refused, he sued for $67 million.

Or better yet, how about THIS one going on right now actually costing a school district money (ie: supplies, teachers, etc)

I think the main issue with the baseball lawsuit is that the lady, her husband, and/or their lawyer has figured out that most of the settlement might come out of the family's home owners insurance so whats the harm really? They don't have to pay anything. Its a pure money grab and that's it.

The easiest suggestion to solve the frivolous lawsuit problem is to punish those that bring lawsuits that are in fact deemed frivolous. If you bring a suit and lose then the judge/jury also decides on whether you should pay for the defendants legal fees and whether the suit was frivolous.

If they find that you had a legitimate reason but just not enough evidence then it wouldn't be frivolous, just unsuccessful.

If you try to sue for $67 million for lost pants however legitimate your claim your number is ludicrous therefore, frivolous.

No, you can't. They announce before a game to be aware of balls and bats.

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Originally posted by CubFan81:
They don't have to pay anything.

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That is good, but beside the point. Because..

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Its a pure money grab and that's it.

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Exactly. For them it is. But not for the kid and his parents. They have no idea how affected this kid may be. He might never throw another ball in is life thinking if he hits something/someone it'll cost him millions. Besides that, I can see other morons starting to camp next to little league fields waiting to be hit by a ball. The law should set an example here and not grant anything. Let Little league solve this, they could help the woman somewhat, but not all. It's not their fault she got hit. It's at your own risk. Isn't that what health insurance is for?

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Originally posted by AEther Storm:
That is good, but beside the point. Because..

Exactly. For them it is. But not for the kid and his parents. They have no idea how affected this kid may be. He might never throw another ball in is life thinking if he hits something/someone it'll cost him millions. Besides that, I can see other morons starting to camp next to little league fields waiting to be hit by a ball. The law should set an example here and not grant anything. Let Little league solve this, they could help the woman somewhat, but not all. It's not their fault she got hit. It's at your own risk. Isn't that what health insurance is for?

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Oh, I understand. I'm not on her side. Though re-reading what I said it comes across not quite how I wanted it to. I was trying to say that to the lady, her husband, and or their lawyer it might seem like they can get a quick money grab out of the family because what does it really cost them if the money comes out of the insurance.

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Originally posted by AEther Storm:
That is good, but beside the point. Because..

Exactly. For them it is. But not for the kid and his parents. They have no idea how affected this kid may be. He might never throw another ball in is life thinking if he hits something/someone it'll cost him millions. Besides that, I can see other morons starting to camp next to little league fields waiting to be hit by a ball. The law should set an example here and not grant anything. Let Little league solve this, they could help the woman somewhat, but not all. It's not their fault she got hit. It's at your own risk. Isn't that what health insurance is for?

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If the law in whatever state this happened in is like Canadian/British law, an 11 year old isn't going to end up liable for the costs, and can just declare bankruptcy if it comes to it. Which would be hilarious.

Why are we hating on this guy so much?

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Originally posted by Thanos:
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Why are we hating on this guy so much?

Aren't there bigger idiots out there to go after?

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No, he is definitely up there in terms of being annoying. He asked the same question at least half a dozen times in T/V forum, and he is pretty much looking for someone that will agree with him, so he could actually sleep at night.

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Originally posted by Thanos:
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Why are we hating on this guy so much?

Aren't there bigger idiots out there to go after?

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Thanks,
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OMG, how can it be so expensive to get married?

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
OMG, how can it be so expensive to get married? The absolute cheapest buffet reception I have been able to find is $19 per person, and the meal sucks. I've never done this before and I feel so lost.

Thanks,
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I'm getting hitched in September. It's coming out to $30 per head but, that's including an open bar. Food is great as we tried way before hand. It's not a sit down dinner though.

We budgeted $7k for the whole thing. We'll over shoot that but, only by about 3k for the ball of wax.

I went to a wedding recently that was just pizza, cake and a park. It was real nice regardless and a lot of fun. Way under 10k.

Side note, how the hell do you use #MOTL?

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
OMG, how can it be so expensive to get married? The absolute cheapest buffet reception I have been able to find is $19 per person, and the meal sucks. I've never done this before and I feel so lost.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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What you want and what you want to spend and what you have to spend and what you actually spend will probably not match up.

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
OMG, how can it be so expensive to get married? The absolute cheapest buffet reception I have been able to find is $19 per person, and the meal sucks. I've never done this before and I feel so lost.

Thanks,
Jazaray

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Courthouse is pretty cheap.