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paragondave
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sounds like a lot if your broke.
 
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12k is pretty normal if you pay for everything and have everything... the basic trick is to cut as much of those costs, there are a bunch of good ideas in previous pages here.

Just keep in mind that your wedding will still be every bit as enjoyable even if you don't pay 12k... there are some things you can't really cut but a lot you can.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Bagbokk on July 01, 2012]

 
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Happy Canada Day to all of you Canadian traders
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Greven53:
Jeepers, that seems exorbitant. I couldn't imagine paying that much, unless that's what a nacho cheese fountain and Nicolas Cage as the guest minister cost.

best. wedding. ever.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by speechjew:
best. wedding. ever.

you talking about the Nacho Cheese or Nic Cage or both?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
you talking about the Nacho Cheese or Nic Cage or both?

yes

 
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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
$12000 sounds normal if you want to have a wedding and then host a party for your guests afterwards.

Exactly. Or, if you have money, you shell out 50 grand (euro's, meaning about 75000 USD) like friends of mine did.

Never. Weddings aren't worth that much money. You can fund a small revolution with that kind of cash.

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Chinese weddings tend to cost upwards of $20000 in my country. Although some of that would be recouped from the guests.
 
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JayC, are you salaried exempt?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Kyosukee on July 02, 2012]
 
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Weddings can cost whatever you want them to. My wedding was around $3,000. We had a small number of close friends and family, a buffet style dinner, and a night of drinking and games.

Nobody can be offended or no one to put on a show for as we knew the people we invited. I'm obviously biased but its still the best reception I've ever been to. Drinking, music, Poker, Cranium, Apples to Apples, Spades, a bit of craziness in the pool and hot tub and hallway races on luggage carts. Ah, good time.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by AEther Storm:
Never. Weddings aren't worth that much money. You can fund a small revolution with that kind of cash.

Yeah...and pieces of cardboard aren't worth that much money.

 
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So after learning all about family law and whatnot:

How and why the blazes do men ever get married? Above that, why would they ever have babies, ever? If anything ever goes bad, the man loses something like 94% of the time.

At least I can add this to the long list of reasons why not to have babies.

 
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After being married and having kids...

How and why the blazes do men ever get married?

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quote:
Originally posted by BoltBait:
After being married and having kids...

How and why the blazes do men ever get married?


They want this: Marriage and prolly want this as well: Result of Marriage

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quote:
Originally posted by BoltBait:
After being married and having kids...

How and why the blazes do men ever get married?


Yeah, fine, I'm married. But I don't have kids or intend to.

 
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Bazinga.

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quote:
Originally posted by BoltBait:
Bazinga.


Makes no sense you do. I'm doing teh law stuff and some random dude just got ordered to pay $50,000 in support after tax per year out of a pre-tax $80,000 income. So basically his take-home is $0 or even negative dollars. I see stuff like that and I think, why don't I get a cat or two.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
Makes no sense you do. I'm doing teh law stuff and some random dude just got ordered to pay $50,000 in support after tax per year out of a pre-tax $80,000 income. So basically his take-home is $0 or even negative dollars. I see stuff like that and I think, why don't I get a cat or two.

How difficult/expensive is it to set up protection against these sorts of things (assuming he wasn't completely guilty of something) before your marriage is trouble? I have no idea how much setting up a prenup or whatever costs.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Shadow88:
How difficult/expensive is it to set up protection against these sorts of things (assuming he wasn't completely guilty of something) before your marriage is trouble? I have no idea how much setting up a prenup or whatever costs.

Not a family law lawyer, but as far as I can tell, you can't do squat to protect yourself from absurd child support orders except appeal them in a court. Or not have babies. I prefer the latter.

There was children in that case, but he had to pay alimony too. This kind of forced indenture is pretty damn frightening, really. If the ex-wife wants to, she can pretty much just live off the guy indefinitely.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
Not a family law lawyer, but as far as I can tell, you can't do squat to protect yourself from absurd child support orders except appeal them in a court. Or not have babies. I prefer the latter.

Womp =\ I imagine this gets more complicated with same sex divorces, as well as the case studies being fairly few anyway.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Volcanon:
Not a family law lawyer, but as far as I can tell, you can't do squat to protect yourself from absurd child support orders except appeal them in a court. Or not have babies. I prefer the latter.

There was children in that case, but he had to pay alimony too. This kind of forced indenture is pretty damn frightening, really. If the ex-wife wants to, she can pretty much just live off the guy indefinitely.


Whats worse is that the constant court appearances and fighting has a cost as well. A buddy of mine has 2 kids by two women (one ex-wife). He works, pays a bit of child support to each of them, and has both kids every Wednesday and most weekends (something like 47 of the 52). That's about 40% of the year (146 days).

Now, his workplace made some cuts and cut back on everybody's hours. To top it off, his ex-wife files for sole custody out of the blue. And not in a, he wasn't paying attention kind of out of the blue, but really, actually out of the blue. She claimed he wasn't spending enough time with her and that when he did have her he was ignoring her. Even though the other girl testified on his behalf about his role in their child's life and that he had letters from work showing his decreased pay the judge legally tore him a new one.

She increased his child support to his ex-wife, she gave her custody, and he is no longer allowed to claim either child as a dependent on his taxes. Between the two payments and taxes he makes about $2 and change an hour and is struggling to find money to go back and fight the ruling.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by CubFan81:
Whats worse is that the constant court appearances and fighting has a cost as well. A buddy of mine has 2 kids by two women (one ex-wife). He works, pays a bit of child support to each of them, and has both kids every Wednesday and most weekends (something like 47 of the 52). That's about 40% of the year (146 days).

Now, his workplace made some cuts and cut back on everybody's hours. To top it off, his ex-wife files for sole custody out of the blue. And not in a, he wasn't paying attention kind of out of the blue, but really, actually out of the blue. She claimed he wasn't spending enough time with her and that when he did have her he was ignoring her. Even though the other girl testified on his behalf about his role in their child's life and that he had letters from work showing his decreased pay the judge legally tore him a new one.

She increased his child support to his ex-wife, she gave her custody, and he is no longer allowed to claim either child as a dependent on his taxes. Between the two payments and taxes he makes about $2 and change an hour and is struggling to find money to go back and fight the ruling.


Your frend may want to talk to a bankrupcy lawyer

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Vegas10:
Your frend may want to talk to a bankrupcy lawyer

... who would tell him that "family responsibility" liabilities can't be discharged under bankruptcy. It's like the despicable system with student loans nowadays.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by CubFan81:
Whats worse is that the constant court appearances and fighting has a cost as well. A buddy of mine has 2 kids by two women (one ex-wife). He works, pays a bit of child support to each of them, and has both kids every Wednesday and most weekends (something like 47 of the 52). That's about 40% of the year (146 days).

Now, his workplace made some cuts and cut back on everybody's hours. To top it off, his ex-wife files for sole custody out of the blue. And not in a, he wasn't paying attention kind of out of the blue, but really, actually out of the blue. She claimed he wasn't spending enough time with her and that when he did have her he was ignoring her. Even though the other girl testified on his behalf about his role in their child's life and that he had letters from work showing his decreased pay the judge legally tore him a new one.

She increased his child support to his ex-wife, she gave her custody, and he is no longer allowed to claim either child as a dependent on his taxes. Between the two payments and taxes he makes about $2 and change an hour and is struggling to find money to go back and fight the ruling.


I see stuff like this and I think, geez and my fiance's ex-wife complains CONSTANTLY about the $80 a week she pays for child support for their two kids, out of her $600-$700 a week paycheck. She should consider herself lucky instead of trying to tell me that $80 a week is 1/3 of her paycheck and that her, her husband and their two kids can't live on what she makes. She actually thinks that we should give each child $40 a week, because the child support should go to them for stuff that they want.


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