posted November 28, 2000 12:58 PM            

I have a pyrexian dreghnaught (excuse my spelling) and it just enters play. Can I use a humble on it to stop the effect? Or how about a bind???

posted November 28, 2000 08:11 PM         

K.10.3 - A creature with negative power or toughness is considered to have zero power/toughness for all reasons other than for changing the power/toughness. [D'Angelo 99/05/01] For example, a creature with power of -2 deals zero damage in combat (which is to say, it does not deal damage at all).

Inzane: Phyrexian Dreadnaught doesn't enter play unless you sacrifice the creatures power >= 12 so you can't bind it, it's part of the cost, not an ability. Same as humble.

posted November 28, 2000 11:36 PM            

That question has been answered a few times here before, so I'll quote caquaa to answer it (I'm not answering it, caquaa is... )

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if on the stack the converted mana cost is X+1 (counting the X as what was paid for it, the 1 is from the R in the cc) and any where else the converted mana cost is X+1, but the X is considered a zero hence the converted mana cost is 1. I think the origonal question was if the kicker was part of the converted mana cost. It is not. You can prohibit a ghitu fire where X=1 reguardless of the kicker on ghitu fire (and you can prohibit a ghitu fire where X=3 if you pay prohibit's kicker). Hope I am not getting too confusing... it sounds clear when I wrote it

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And the ruling straight from the rules...

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K.26.3 - If there is an {X} in the mana cost of a spell, consider the amount paid in 'X' to be part of the cost while the spell is on the stack, but 'X' is zero after the card becomes a permanent or while the card is any place other than on the stack. [CompRules 99/04/23]

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posted November 29, 2000 09:11 AM            

razor2sharp:
A.27.3 - If all the creatures blocking a Trample attacker receive lethal damage, any remaining damage is assigned as its controller chooses among the blocking creatures and the defending player. [CompRules 99/04/23]

A.27.9 - Assigning damage from a Trample creature only considers the actual toughness of the creature, not any abilities or effects that might prevent or redirect damage once it is assigned. [CompRules 99/04/23] For example, if a 2/2 creature with Protection from Green blocked a Force of Nature, you would only need to assign 2 damage to it, even though that damage will be prevented by the ability during damage prevention.
[WotC Rules Team 98/10/18] Another way of thinking of this is that you need to assign enough damage that the creature would be lethally damaged if nothing prevented or redirected the damage. [D'Angelo 99/05/01]

A.27.Ruling.1 - The player distributing the damage can assign more damage to a creature than is needed to kill that creature, and can choose to not assign damage at all to one or more blocking creatures. If any blocking creature is not going to be lethally damaged (see Rule K.10.4), however, no damage may be assigned to the defending player. [CompRules 99/04/23]
For example, if a Force of Nature (8/8 Trample) is blocked by three 2/2 creatures, you could:
a) assign all 8 damage to one blocker,
b) 4 to each of two blockers, c) 3 to one 3 to another and 2 to the third,
c) 3 to one, 2 to each other, and 1 to the defending player,
d) 2 to each blocker and 2 to the defending player, and so on.

A.27.Ruling.2 - If a creature was damaged prior to combat damage being assigned, you only need to assign enough additional damage to make the creature have damage on it equal to its toughness before satisfying the Trample rules. In other words, enough to make the creature have lethal damage (see Rule K.10.4). [D'Angelo 98/10/08]

I quoted enough rules to answer your question and any additional ones you may have

acid: Are you related to blackstorm?
The tokens get their power from the burst that created them. The power of the tokens is 1.

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posted November 29, 2000 09:49 AM            

But i do have a question about creatures and Summoning Sickness (not haveing Haste for you new players).

Untap Phase: You untap your lands, creatures, etc. Then you cast Saproling Symbiosis as an Instant.

My question is can you attack with those creatures this turn or do you have to wait until next turn? What if you cast Saproling Symbiosis at the end of your oppenents turn?

I was told that if you control a creature before your upkeep then you can attack with them that turn. Is this true?

No he isn't related to me caquaa.

But thanks for asking!!

posted November 30, 2000 06:53 PM            

Im pretty sure its only once but some people dont agree...i wouldn't be suprised if you could, just stack it on, but i dunno about that.

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posted December 01, 2000 09:17 AM            

You can get infinite mana with two cloud of faries. You tap two lands (getting four mana) then play the faries and use one mana to bounce the other faries. Hence you net one mana every time you do this.

Ragemonkey: You only can do it once. It say "whenever it deals combat damage..." and cretures only deal combat damage once. Multiple activations would be cool, but not legal

gzeiger:

A.27.5 - If all blocking creatures are either removed from combat or are unable to have damage assigned to them, all of the Trample creature's damage is assigned to the defending player. [CompRules 99/04/23]

G.29.3 - Regeneration is defined as "The next time this permanent would be destroyed this turn, instead remove all damage from it, tap it, and (if it's in combat) remove it from combat." [CompRules 99/11/01]

You deal the damage to the opponent since the creature isn't in combat anymore.

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posted December 01, 2000 10:24 PM            

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posted December 01, 2000 11:13 PM            

I have a question about creatures and Summoning Sickness (not haveing Haste for you new players).

Untap Phase: You untap your lands, creatures, etc. Then you cast Saproling Symbiosis as an Instant.

My question is can you attack with those creatures this turn or do you have to wait until next turn? What if you cast Saproling Symbiosis at the end of your oppenents turn?

I was told that if you control a creature before your upkeep then you can attack with them that turn. Is this true?

Thanks and please answer this one. Thanks!!

posted December 02, 2000 08:57 AM            

skankyjoker: fair play is hard to define and is up to the judge's call really. its your word vs your opponent.. most the judge can do is back up to where you sac'd the seal to kill the spore frog.. go thru the priorities.. if your opponent screws up then.. then he's eating damage.. if he gets it right.. nothing you can do.

posted December 02, 2000 01:40 PM            

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Originally posted by Selvaxri:
is kicker added to the casting cost?
what i mean is: can i play a llanowar Elite or faerie squadron {free of casting cost} via Aluren then pay Kicker? or do i have to pay the casting cost AND kicker?

if yes (added to CC): can i 'reduce' the kicker costs via the Medallions?

lmk. -Selvaxri

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thanx!

posted December 02, 2000 08:03 PM            

Gaea: the creature card is put into play, not cast, thus you cant pay kicker on those creatures, btw.. I dont do email answers.. if you want the answer.. come back and find it

Jochen Cobussen:
Does not prevent damage, it prevents the damage from turning into loss of life. So the full damage is dealt, but the full
loss of life is not applied. [D'Angelo 00/02/25]
so you still gotta sac perms to lich.

ted: I'll do that in a bit