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Topic: Need a Ruling?.. Come on in!.. Pt. 5 -> it just keeps going and going..
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Pandemonium Member
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posted January 25, 2001 07:53 AM
You beat me to it Trnothr
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Trnothr Member
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posted January 25, 2001 08:05 AM
I'm glad to know about the painlands... Reaver's ability is same as Spirit Link, the damage has to be actually DEALT before you can gain/lose anything, and since player loses immediately if his/her life reaches zero...
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2cool4u Member
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posted January 25, 2001 02:12 PM
I need help with a big problem. Everyone here has started playing proxies of everything. I don't want to be a jerk towards them because they are my friends, but I can't handle it anymore. I play with real power nine and only cards I have in my current collection. Is there a ruling on making proxies of cards you don't own? I keep losing to cards people don't have and it's making me mad. Also they say you can play with four of any card in casual play because this is not a tournment. I don't agree with this and would like a ruling to this also. Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance. A.J.
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Master Member
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posted January 25, 2001 02:59 PM
ok... caquaa, a while ago, i posted about that 8 pumps on the shapeshifter/hellion thing and then turning into a dreadnaught.. now.. my friends dont believe this is possible to do so could you please explain HOW this works. thanks.. __________________ Master Your God
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gzeiger Member
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posted January 25, 2001 11:33 PM
Well, Pandemonium, you got most of them However, #10, the Covetous Dragon, does not involve a state-based effect but rather a triggered event. When the Tooth leaves play, the Dragon "sees" that there are no artifacts and his ability goes on the stack. In response to the ability it is possible to cast instants, so Swords or other spells would still work. __________________ email me at gzeiger@hotmail.com All that is gold does not glitter; Not all those who wander are lost; The old that is strong does not wither; Deep roots are not touched by frost. --- JRR Tolkien
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Pandemonium Member
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posted January 26, 2001 12:04 AM
2cool4u: It depends if its tournament or casual play. Tourney play its illegal, but if casual, I suggest letting them use the proxies to make the games more fun.gzeiger: Its actually a statebased triggered effect.
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Trnothr Member
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posted January 26, 2001 03:50 AM
There are no real rules about casual play, if people like to play 10 card starting hand size, how can anyone stop them? Casual is for fun.I recall the Covetous Dragon's effect to be statebased too. Master: The hellion pump is done like this: You activate the ability, then activate it again in response to the activation. You do this until 8 abilities are on the stack, none of them resolved yet. Then you respond to them by discarding the Dreadnought from your hand. The stack looks like this: Discard Pumpx8 Discard resolves, making the Shapeshifter 12/12 trampler. Then the pumps resolve, one at a time and change it into 20/4 trampler for your opponents to enjoy. Ok, I'll stop helping for now 'til I get permission to continue.
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Pandemonium Member
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posted January 26, 2001 08:33 AM
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Lord Atog Member
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posted January 26, 2001 09:45 AM
When you attempt to cast a Hatred and someone counters it, do you still lose the life you paid? Or don't you even pay the life yet because it wasn't successfully cast? Please LMK by e-mail__________________ The bane of all artificers, the legendary atogs devoured intricate tools to further their own twisted growth.
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Pandemonium Member
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posted January 26, 2001 09:58 AM
"The life payment is part of the play cost (see Rule K.20), so it is lost if this spell is countered. [Barclay 98/06/10]"You lose the life, its the risk you take with suicide black.
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cloud1094 Member
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posted January 26, 2001 02:08 PM
i have a question...can you pump a morphling to a 0/10 and then pump it back up to a 9/1? when it is a 0/6, when you pump it back one more time does it become a 0/7, or a -1/7. please let me know...because this has been causing some ruling problems lately. thanks.
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gzeiger Member
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posted January 26, 2001 03:05 PM
Cloud - you can pump a Morphling up to -7/10. It is effectively a 0/10, as creatures with power less than 0 do no combat damage, but it still remembers this when you try to pump it up again.
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coreycorey2000 Member
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posted January 26, 2001 04:36 PM
Well I was wondering what would happen if I had a Pandemonium in play and activated a chimeric idol. Would I get to deal the 3 damage? Or not? Some people say yes others say no so I would like to know for sure.
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gzeiger Member
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posted January 26, 2001 04:59 PM
Note to Coolio: I'm still only answering questions you already dealt with. Please don't yell at me Activating a Chimeric Idol does not activate Pandemonium. The Idol is becoming a creature, but it is not coming into play.
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Avatar of Magic Member
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posted January 26, 2001 07:41 PM
If i play a channel while i have worship in play and i spend more than 20 life, will it still kill me or does worship still work?__________________ Mess with me and you shall be destroyed in the worst way possible.
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reinhart Member
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posted January 26, 2001 07:53 PM
avatar of magic: Paying life (for channel) is not the same as being dealt damage. So the Worship won't help__________________ Looking for someone to play Apprentice with?
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reinhart Member
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posted January 27, 2001 02:29 PM
If I have a wall of souls and he is attacking with a 5/5 kavu titan (both of us are at 1 life), do we both die at same time?__________________ Looking for someone to play Apprentice with?
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Maximus_Ar Member
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posted January 27, 2001 06:25 PM
I cast Eureka and put out Recycle. Since I draw a card everytime I play a card (due to Recycle), would it be possible to go through my entire deck?__________________ I have gone to look for myself. If I should return before I get back, please keep me here. maximus_ar@yahoo.com AIM::IamMaximusAr ICQ::91670051 Private in Apprentice Alliance Admiral in GAB
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Pandemonium Member
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posted January 28, 2001 03:24 AM
Reinhart - The one with the Kavu Titan will win, as the damage has to be dealt before the wall of souls ability triggersMaximus Ar - Yes
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reinhart Member
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posted January 28, 2001 07:03 AM
pandemonium, the errat said somethign about the damage being delt by the wall is at the same time as combat damage. so doesn't that mean that the derm and the wall are dealing damage at the same time? which brings a new question: We are both at 1 life and he bolts me. Can I cast Eye for an Eye to force a draw?
If I have Mogg Conscripts in play and the next turn i try to cast a goblin, and it gets countered, can the mogg Conscripts attack? __________________ Looking for someone to play Apprentice with?
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black mage Member
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posted January 28, 2001 07:09 PM
ok i was playing appr. with this guy and i had a chimeric idol in play and all of my lands are tapped but one can i tapp that 1 land and activate the idol if not what is chimeric idol good for__________________ *BLACK MAGE* *he craves only one commodity*
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British Kavu Member
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posted January 29, 2001 10:59 AM
sorry guys i cant resist MY question is about goblin game. lets suppose i hide a piece of cake. After the opponent revelas his object(s), i crumble the take up into an extra piece. Now is that legal? Also, do i have to reveal all the objects i hide? can i hide my opponents binder and "forget" where i put it? ENJOY!
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gzeiger Member
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posted January 29, 2001 11:21 AM
Black Mage - Tapping your lands is an effect of the Chimeric Idol's ability, not a cost. You don't actually have to have any lands untapped to use the ability. The important thing to notice is that the tapping is written after the colon.Maximus AR - you can't draw your whole deck from the Eureka. Recycle has a triggered ability which will not go on the stack until Eureka has finished resolving. That means you definitely could not "Eureka" the cards you drew from the Recycle. I also strongly suspect that putting a card into play by the Eureka effect does not count as "playing" it for purposes of Recycle. I'm not so sure though, so I'll leave it to Coolio for a definitive answer.
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Goaswerfraiejen Member
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posted January 30, 2001 12:36 PM
Hey, just wondering, are "World Championship" cards legal in tournaments? I know this has been asked before, but...__________________ Evil-doers! Cower in fright for I am the one, the only...uhh... Psst! Mat! What was that name again?What's yours is mine, and what's mine is mine...
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Spike101 Member
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posted January 30, 2001 01:08 PM
Can you play a Cradle one turn, then next turn play another one and tap it for mana before it is buried?Thx, __________________ -Spike"I think, therefore it is." "Why?" "Because I frickin' well say it is!!" [small]If you can read this you probably don't need glasses. Who knows?
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