posted February 02, 2001 08:58 AM         

Temujin: K.11.7 - If you are asked to choose a creature type, you do not have to choose a creature type which already exists in the game. You can make up your own type, such as Platypus, if you choose. This type can only have one word. You may not choose a name which has another meaning in the game, such as "opponent" or "land". Also, slanderous, obscene, and otherwise offensive choices are considered poor sportsmanship and may cause ejection from a tournament. [CompRules 99/04/23] You can choose any creature type that exists on any Magic card in existance. You cannot choose the name of a card in Magic (unless that name is also a creature type), or any word that is in the glossary of the comprehensive rules or is otherwise used to mean something special under the rules. [bethmo 99/11/30]

2. I have 3 Different Attendants (i.e. Trevas, Dromars, Riths) out. I attack with all 3 of them and then in response to combat damage, sacrifice them to play vitalizing wind. Do the attacking attendants get the bonus or not?

posted February 04, 2001 02:51 PM            

1. Can Morphling's abilities be played as instants? If so, it seems unfairly invincible.

2. Do artifacts count as spells? (Why I am asking this, I'm not sure, other than that I don't remember the answer.

3. In a recent game, my opponent payed a buyback cost a few turns after playing the spell. Now this contradicts EVERYTHING in the Rath Cycle rulebooks...but he said it was a rule change with 6th edition rules or Invasion or something of the sort. Is he right? I devoutly doubt it, but...

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posted February 05, 2001 12:46 AM         

hynes22: The living lands is the most recent effect so it would take precedence. T.8.Ruling.3 - One continuous effect can override another. This happens if
one is applied after the other as per Rule T.8.10. This makes it so the
most recent effect "wins".

CoolHomie:
1) You cannot stack the effects such that a creature survives the wrath.
2) They would not get the bonus. Combat damage has already been dealt, and damage from creatures is assigned several steps before it is dealt. Beyond the damage assigning phase, combat damage is not modified by spells or abilites with the exception of prevention/replacement effects.
3) Tsabo Tavoc will not kill himself in the wave of reckoning. Good eye.

Goaswerfraiejen:

1) Yes, the morphlings abilities CAN be played as instants. Yes, this IS terribly unfair.
2) Everything cast is counted as a spell. The only things not cast are cards put directly into play by another effect or the playing of land.
3) A.9.4 - If you pay the Buyback cost when you play the spell, then the spell
is returned to its controller's hand at the end of resolution, instead of
going to its controller's graveyard. If it it not going to its
controller's graveyard, the ability does nothing.

So no, he can't play it several turns later.

CoolHomie: All the effects trigger at the beginning of the upkeep, so no. Regardless of the order in which you put them, rith is not in the graveyard for Reya to target at the announcement of the ability.

Selvaxri: Yes, yes they do, just like multiple crusades giving multiple +1/+1's.

what happens, if my opponent plays masticore, then uses one sting, I respond by playing swords on the core. now can he use the stinging ability again and again?

Thanks!

posted February 05, 2001 12:35 PM            

Ok, I play a Balance ok. He decides not to counter it. Ok its now on the stack, but in response to it, I sac all my lands to my Zuran Orb creating that Armageddon effect that it does. Now my opponent decides he wants to counter it now. But can he since Balance is already on the stack, or can he counter it still?

Its pretty silly, but Im really not 100% sure on it.

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posted February 07, 2001 11:21 AM            

I also have a question about Firestorm Phoenix. When it dies, it says it can't be played again that turn. If you have another Phoenix in hand, do you have to wait to play them both, or does the card remember which one was in play?

posted February 07, 2001 07:09 PM            

Finally i only want to know if i win or if it is a draw,

posted February 08, 2001 09:28 AM            

Eyal - Masticore's sting ability can be played as many times as your opponent can pay for it in response to your Swords. In fact the sting that your Swords responded to will also still happen because once the ability has been played, destroying its source doesn't stop the effect. Only Bind, Interdict and Rust can counter the sting.

DarkDamion - You seem to be one of us old-timers who can't let go of the old rules 6th edition made all counters instants instead of interrupts. That means they can be put on the stack any time, targeting anything on the stack. In fact you have to decide whether to use your Orb before he decides whether to counter - when you cast a spell, you have priority to put other effects on the stack. If you pass priority, then he can pass also and Balance will resolve without you getting a chance to Orb anything.

Atreides - Yes. The search is triggered by the card coming into play. It only triggers once, so you get to search for one additional Sentinel, but then that Sentinel comes into play and triggers its own ability, letting you search for another... so you can get them all.

Merco - Mana is not the same as land. You have to put a land card from play into your graveyard to use the Wrangler. Cute though

Now somebody has to answer my questions and mister_whitie's, because I don't know...

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posted February 08, 2001 10:37 AM         

Mr. Whitie: T.6.6 - Spells and abilities may have multiple steps or actions, denoted by
separate sentences or clauses. For each sentence or clause, the player
controlling the spell or ability makes their choices and does their
actions first, then the opponent does so. [WotC Rules Team 00/04/04]
For a spell which reads "Each player removes two cards in his or her hand
from the game", the controller chooses and removes, then the other player
chooses and removes. For a spell such which reads "Each player chooses
a card in his or her hand. Then each player reveals his or her chosen
card", the controller chooses, then the opponent choses, then the
controller reveals, then the opponent reveals. [WotC Rules Team 00/04/04]
So that's how that aspect works.

Now, do you win lose or draw?

Here's everything on state-based effects.

T.11 - State-Based Effects
T.11.1 - State-based effects are a special set of rules that are applied
whenever a player is going to receive priority, prior to placing triggered
abilities on the stack. [CompRules 99/04/23]
T.11.2 - All state-based effects are checked at once and applied at once in
a single event, then the check is repeated until nothing happens.
[CompRules 99/04/23] Neither player receives priority until the
state-based effects are done resolving. [D'Angelo 99/05/01]
T.11.3 - A check for state-based effects is also made during the Cleanup
Step (see Rule P.13), and if any effect is applied the active player
receives priority to play spells and abilities afterwards.
[CompRules 99/04/23]
T.11.4 - State-based effects are not controlled by either player.
[CompRules 99/04/23]
T.11.5 - The state-based effects are: [CompRules 99/11/01]
a) A player with zero or less life loses the game.
b) A creature with toughness of zero or less is put into its owner's
graveyard and it cannot regenerate.
c) A creature with lethal damage (see Rule K.10.4) (which does not also
have zero or less toughness) is destroyed. Regeneration can replace
this event. [bethmo 99/07/27]
d) A local enchantment that enchants an illegal or non-existant permanent
is put into its owner's graveyard.
e) Duplicate legends are put into their owner's graveyard. See Rule K.17.
f) A token in a zone other than "in play" ceases to exist.
g) A player who was unable to draw a card due to their library being
empty loses the game.
h) If more than one Enchant World is in play, all or all-but-one are put
into their owner's graveyard. See Rule K.12.10.
T.11.6 - Unlike triggered abilities, state-based effects do not pay
attention during the resolution of a spell or ability. They only check
when a player is about to receive priority. This makes them very
different. [CompRules 99/04/23] For example, a creature is in play with
the ability "this creature has power and toughness each equal to the
number of cards in your hand". Its controller plays a spell which says
"Discard your hand, then draw seven cards." The creature will temporarily
have a toughness of zero in the middle of the resolution, but it will be
back to toughness 7 when the spell finishes resolving. So the state-based
effect will see it at 7 toughness, while a triggered ability would have
seen it temporarily be at zero toughness.
Note - Don't confuse state-based effects with triggered abilities (see
Rule A.4.15 and Rule A.4.16) that trigger on some game state.
[CompRules 99/04/23]

T.11.6 means that no one is going to die while windfall is actually resolving.

So you draw all of your cards, and all of your tyrrany effects go on the stack. After that, your opponent draws his cards and HIS tyrrany effects go on the stack. After windfall resolves, the tyrrany effects start to resolve. Since your opponent's effect went on the stack last, they come off first. He takes 2, then 2, then 2, then 2, and dies as a state-based effect before the last tyrrany effect on him has resolved. You win.

gzeiger:
1) The Abyss:
Info: Color=Black Type=Enchant World Cost=3B LG(R1)
Text(LG+errata): At the beginning of each player's upkeep, that player
sacrifices target nonartifact creature he or she controls.
[Oracle 99/09/03]
This is a targeted ability. The Abyss targets one creature each upkeep.
It cannot target creatures which are untargetable, such as those with
Protection from Black. [Aahz 94/07/13]
If the target becomes invalid after being chosen but before resolution,
you do not have to choose another target. [Duelist Magazine #16, Page 25]
The current/active player controls the triggered ability.
[D'Angelo 97/11/24]

The active player controls the ability, but the owner of the card still controls the card.

2) The Phoenix only remembers itself, as it were. You can play a different one.

3) Because Wizards like to feel the power of class-morphing those weaker than them. I guess...

posted February 08, 2001 04:51 PM            

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posted February 08, 2001 04:53 PM            

quote:

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Originally posted by Imagenyuss:
If I conspiracy for Ledgendary Wall's and donate it to my opponent can his creatures attack, and can he have two creatures of the same name out?

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could someone who is sure about this give me a ruling... no offence or anything

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posted February 08, 2001 05:43 PM            

mkl: yes

shivan103: huh??

reinhart: the ability does use the stack.. so StPing the dragon will gain u 6 life..

imagenyuss: how do u give someone else's creature pro with Mom? she says creatures you control..

secondly.. u name *1* creature type for conspiracy.. if u drop a second one and donate it.. the second one takes effect over the first..

starting a new topic..

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