posted December 31, 2000 09:57 PM            

A)Gain 20 Life and then lose 20 life
B)Him Lose 20 life since it leaves play
C)I lose 20 life and lose the game

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posted January 01, 2001 12:03 AM            

1. My opponent casts Arc Lightning, targeting
my Mogg Fanatic for 1 and me for 2. If I, in response, sacrifice the Mogg Fanatic to deal a damage to him, does the Arc Lightning fizzle because one of its targets was illegal?

2. Someone has a Portcullis out, and an Opalescence. They play an enchantment. Does it stay in play or go under the portcullis?

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posted January 01, 2001 03:14 AM            

We don't do e-mails as we get too many questions. You can bookmark this thread.

Imagenyuss:
The wording on Spell book is:
You have no maximum hand size. [Oracle 00/02/01]

The wording for necro is:
Text(5th+errata): Skip your draw step. ; If you would discard a card from your hand, remove that card from the game instead. ; Pay 1 life: Set aside the top card of your library face down. At the end of your turn, put that card into your hand. [Oracle 00/10/24]

The spell book no longer makes you skip your discard step and the necro no longer gives you the cards during your discard step. You get the cards.

stu55:
Illusions Text:
Text(IA+errata): Cumulative Upkeep - {2}. ; When ~this~ comes into play, you gain 20 life. ; When ~this~ leaves play, you lose 20 life. [Oracle 00/02/01]

the gain life happens when it comes into play. It comes into play on your opponents side when they play it so they ain 20 life. They then donate it to you. It is not coming into play right now, just switching controllers. Now they cast pyroblast and kill it and since you are the controller, you lose the 20 life. This deck caused the banning of mana vault and dark ritual in extended...

Thrash Golem:
1) G.39.5 - If a spell or ability has multiple targets and one or more of the targets become illegal prior to resolution, then the spell or ability still resolves with respect to its legal targets. [CompRules 99/04/23]
For example, a Fireball is cast targeting three creatures with 2 damage each. If one creature is Unsummoned, then nothing happens to that creature, but the other two creatures still take 2 damage each.

The spell still does the two damae to you.

2) The enchantment will come into play as a creature and then be removed from the game by portcullis.
Note- Any creature's "comes into play" abilities still trigger.

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posted January 01, 2001 11:23 PM            

2) Yes. Fading removes a counter during your upkeep and to use the ability you have to remove another counter
Note - The card dies when you can not remove a fading counter, not when there are none on the card.

3) A counterspell counters a spell. The effects of countering a spell or ability are:
G.7.2 - When a spell is countered, it is removed from the stack (see Rule T.2) and placed in its owner's graveyard. The spell never resolves and has no effect. [CompRules 99/04/23]
G.7.Ruling.1 - Once a spell or ability is countered, it is no longer on the stack, so any other spells targeting it will later fail since it is an illegal target. [D'Angelo 99/05/01]
G.7.Ruling.2 - Costs (see Rule G.6) paid when playing the spell or ability are lost. [CompRules 99/04/23]

4) Yes, creatures with summoning sickness can block. They just can not attack or use abilities which require tapping.

Sorry, you have to check back to this post just like every one else. I advise you to bookmark this thread (ctrl + D).

Selvaxri: Well first of all I should tell you that you hav egottem what collective restrait does completely wrong. The wording on the restrait is:
Creatures can't attack you unless their controller pays X for each creature attacking you, where X is the number of basic land types among lands you control. (This cost is paid as attackers are declared.)
This means the maximum each can be is 5 since there are only 5 basic land types.

1) You opponent must pay the mana to attack ofr each restraint in play.
For example: You have 3x islands and 4x mountains in play then then you have two basic land types in play so your opponent has to pay two mana for each restraint.
Note - The revised duals have two basic land types even though they are non-basic lands. If you have a tundra in play, then you have the basic land type island and plains. No other non-basic lands have a basic land type associated w/ them.

2) This one depends on how you do it. If you sacrifice the lands when he declares his attack phase, then those lands are not counted when he has to pay the mana when he declares attackers. If you let him declare attackers and pay the mana and then you sacrifice the two lands, the mana has already been paid when you had more land types in play(obviously the best way to play this). Just let your opponent declare attackers and pay the mana, then sacrifice the two lands and have a protection from XXX blocker

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posted January 02, 2001 10:15 AM            

K.24.8 - Effects that ask for a split card's characteristic in order to use the value get both answers. For example, Infernal Genesis asks for the converted mana cost of the card. Wax/Wane would report {1} and {1} since it cannot report a single value. Infernal Genesis uses this as a number, so it adds them together and puts 2 tokens into play. [Invasion FAQ 00/10/03]

posted January 02, 2001 07:40 PM            

My opponent plays a Sonic Burst, and in response he sacrifices 2 mountains to Fireblast, just so I don't by chance pick his fireblast as the random card for sonic burst. Can he do that?

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posted January 02, 2001 09:08 PM            

Anyway, thanks again...

posted January 03, 2001 02:32 AM            

You must discard the card at random when you anounce the burst. What your opponent did is not legal because you must pay all costs of a spell before any one can respond. He could have put two mana in his mana pool, then blast you, then cast the burst w/ the floating mana.

GottaLoveElves:
You pick the target before you pick the random card to discard. [bethmo 99/02/11]

It targets

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posted January 03, 2001 09:19 AM            

anyway, i have another breakfast question for your...

ok, i attacck with a 22/2 dreadnaught and he blocks with a black knight.. ok.. does his damage resolve before mine even goes on the stack? or can i put 22 damage on the stack, and then, in reponse to first strike, turn it into a tradewind rider to have the 22 damage resolve. thanks alot. ive had this question for 3 days now and no one can answer me.

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posted January 04, 2001 01:44 AM            

There's a Nether Void in play. One player casts Obliterate. What happens?

posted January 04, 2001 02:23 AM            

LOL. I have spent 15 min analizing the first strike rule with reguards to the shapeshifter and survival thing when I finally realized something. The tradewind would die because the hellions effect lasts on the creature until end of turn.

E.4.Ruling.6 - Effects played on the copy card override the characteristics it is copying. [Aahz 94/08/08]

Die Tradewind Die

You have yourself a 11/0 tradewind, hehehe.

Note- I assume that he dreadnought is a 22/2 because of the hellion's ability. If not then

wallflower41: Sorry bout not answering, you posted while I was answering master.

The obliterate states it can not be countered. The nether void states it counters the spell if the 3 mana is not paid. You don't have to pay the extra mana for nether void, althought you can if you want to. Er... what are the arguements for the reverse of what I said???

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posted January 04, 2001 01:53 PM            

!!!! BUT !!!!

I'm getting a lot of local judges in the Denver area that rule the other way on it.

Is there a written ruling on this thru either, Wotc or De'Angolo's that I can referance to? And where?

I have searched alot and not found it.
I have seen the ruling consering the Chamelion, and Desertion in De'Angolo's but nothing consering the interaction between them.

Please Help.
And if there is no exact ruling thru either of the main resouces that the judges use (Wotc / De'Angolo's) is there a way to submit the question so that they clear up the confusion that various judges have on a current card that is used alot?

posted January 05, 2001 09:31 AM         

I play a volraths shapshifter

posted January 05, 2001 05:42 PM            

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posted January 06, 2001 04:05 AM            

Same thing:
You have 1 card in library, you're stroked for 2, you respond by playing FF...

Different question:
Scenario 1:
Flame rift when both players are on 1 life
What happens? (Game score; opponent 1, me 0)
(what we did is each player got a win, so it ended at 2-1)

i remove a couple of your creatures from the game due to the wall of nets.. then i play the humility.. do you get your creatures back, if the wall is destroyed?
what about: same thing, but i humble the wall in response to your dark banishing.. what would be the thing here?

posted January 06, 2001 01:29 PM            

turn 1:
play a bayou and play an exploration
play a tropical island and play a Llanowar elf

turn 2:
play a plateau and a scrubland
tap the tropical island to play a Prismatic lace on the Llanowar elf to make it all 5 colours
use all the other lands to play a thran dynomo

turn 3:
play a coalition victory

you win and everyone else loses

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posted January 06, 2001 05:35 PM            

i got on the table:
1x Avatar of woe

he has:
1x Icy
1x City of Brass
1x Atog

i tap my avatar of woe to destroy his atog

can he TAP his icy and city to tap my avatar so his atog wont die??

posted January 06, 2001 10:57 PM            

The guy plays Humility, then plays a Phyrexian Marauder.. since it becomes a 1/1, does it still get the +1/+1 counters? Also, it can now block and you don't have to pay the X mana to attack with it.. I think the guy's a genius.

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