posted December 27, 2000 08:46 AM            

Is it really true that I can use the En-Kor ability on Task Force or Angelic Protector? If so, then can I declare a number like 60 billion as the number of times this infinite loop occurs?

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Inzane

2. Can you enchant some thing that can't be target of spells or abilities?

3. Can you confiscate an enchant card that gives a creature Protection from blue?

4. What happens when you misdirect a topple?

5. When you take control of something, does it have haste for that turn?

6. Can you dominate an Opal enchantment to make it become a creature and then take it?

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ManaBurn

posted December 27, 2000 06:23 PM            

Seriously, though, I was just wondering if one could Quash an Urza's Rage or Obliterate - it won't be countered, but would I still get to remove them from the game?

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posted December 27, 2000 10:41 PM            

1. When a Pestilence is disenchanted, how much damage can you do in reponse, before it dies? Can you say the damage one at a time, or do you have to do the damage at once?
You can respond to the disenchant by activating the Pestilence, and your opp gets to respond to your activation if he wishes. But, you can respond to his response, if he does, and if not, you can put your Pestilence damage on the stack and respond again if you like. So, theoretically, you can deal as much damage as you like with the Pestilence, as much as you have mana for. But he gets to respond to each activation if he wishes.

2. Can you enchant some thing that can't be target of spells or abilities?
Not in the sense that we know it, i.e. casting enchantments from your hand.

3. Can you confiscate an enchant card that gives a creature Protection from blue?
Yeah, if you really want to. Then you'll control the enchantment, but he'll still control the critter.

4. What happens when you misdirect a topple?
You can only misdirect it if there is more than one critter with the greatest power in play. If you want to misdirect a Topple that targets a Skizzik, and there are no other critters that have power 5, you're out of luck.

5. When you take control of something, does it have haste for that turn?
Not unless it says it does.

6. Can you dominate an Opal enchantment to make it become a creature and then take it?
Uh, Dominate isn't a creature spell. So casting it won't affect the Opal. If it's already been activated, you can Dominate it, if not, you can't target it, as it's not a creature.

Forgive me if I'm incorrect, Judges, and please correct me...it's late, and I need sleep. Hope this helps.

posted December 27, 2000 10:45 PM            

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Originally posted by Archreaper:
Ok, this is a wimpy question, but a friend and I have been needing to know this: Can you counter Power Sink? He says that the tapping of mana happens before you can tap your land to counter it. I say that you can counter it.

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Yes, you can counter any spell that doesn't say "cannot be countered".

posted December 27, 2000 10:46 PM            

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Originally posted by kennyrules99:
hey, got a quick one:

When playing a coalition victory, can a sliver queen count as all 5 creatures??

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Yes.

posted December 28, 2000 01:10 AM            

1) K.18.Ruling.3 - When a spell or ability allows you to cast a spell without paying the mana cost (or by decreasing what you have to pay), this will not affect costs which are not part of the mana cost.
[WotC Rules Team 98/02/01] For example, Aluren will not pay for the extra cost imposed by Gloom.

2)
Text on Lich:
Text(ABU+errata): When ~this~ comes into play, you lose all your life. ; You don't lose the game for having 0 life. ; If you would gain life, for each 1 life, draw a card instead. ; If you would be dealt damage, for each 1 damage, sacrifice a permanent. ; When ~this~ leaves play, you lose the game. [Oracle 99/09/03]

A.4.1 - A triggered ability begins with the word "when", "whenever", or "at". The phrase starting with one of these words is the trigger condition. [CompRules 99/04/23] More completely, a triggered ability reads "When/whenever/at <condition>, do <effect>". [D'Angelo 99/05/01]

A.4.3 - Triggered abilities are not played. They wait until the next time a player receives priority, then they are put on the stack (see Rule T.2). It is placed on as a pseudospell, with a copy of its source's text, color, and controller at the time it triggered. [CompRules 99/04/23]

The sacrificing a permanent effect triggers on when the damage is dealt. This is put on the stack as soon as the active player gets priority. At the same time, state based effects are check and it is found that one player has no life and he/she loses before the sacrifice abilities resolve. The person who controls the lich would win.

underworld dreams: I believe this would be the correct rule for that:
G.9.1 - If a card "Counts as <-something->" then the card is in all ways a <-something->. For example, Wall of Spears is a Wall because it says "Counts as a wall" in its text. [CompRules 99/04/23]
G.9.2 - Counts as text applies no matter what zone (see Rule Z.1) the card is in. [CompRules 99/04/23]
G.9.3 - Counts as text is not considered an ability. [CompRules 99/04/23]
Just copied it from what BlackStorm posted earlier, hehe (but applied it correctly )

Inzane: En-kor ability:
Text(SH+errata): 2/2. ; {0}: The next 1 damage that would be dealt to ~this~ this turn is dealt to target creature you control instead. [Oracle 00/02/01]

Yup, it works. You can just target it as many times as you would like... it doesn't matter if damage is being dealt or not (then worthy cause )
Although this is not a loop, but you can use this rule:
G.18.2 - If a combination occurs which is completely under one player's control, it could potentially be repeated an infinite number of times. If this happens, the player should demonstrate the cycle a few times, then state how many times they want to do this. This must be a positive, finite integer. If the opponent does nothing to interfere, then the actions occur the stated number of times. Any player may say that after some smaller number of times they want to stop the loop to take some action (which is legal at that time). This causes the additional loops to not happen, but does not stop the player from starting the loop again if they can. [CompRules 99/04/23]

ManaBurn:
1) You always have to activate pestilence one at a time, but you can put a lot of them on the stack. You can activate it for as much black mana as you have.

2) You can not cast an enchantment on it, however, you can replenish an enchantment on it, crown of the ages an enchantment on it, etc.

3) Yes, the creature gets the protection, not the enchantment.

4) You can only misdirect the topple if there is a creature which is tied for highest power. You can play misdirection on the topple if there is not new legal target, but since there isn't a new legal target, the misdirection can not change the target of topple.

5) Only if the creature or the card that has taken contl of the creature or some other effect gives the creature haste. It does not gain haste just because you gained control of it.

6) Dominate can only target a creature. You can not anounce a dominate targeting anything other than a creature, even if the thing you target become a creature before the dominate resolves.

Archreaper: Yup, you can counter power sink. It only steals the mana when it resolves. You have to cast the counterspell before it resolves to counter it, so the power sink hasn't had time to steal your mana. You can counter power sink just like any other spell.

gzeiger:
Text(UD+errata):
[/i]Counter target instant or sorcery spell. Search its controller's graveyard, hand, and library for all cards with the same name as that card and remove them from the game. That player then shuffles his or her library. [Oracle 99/11/01][/i]

Doesn't matter if the spell is actually countered or not, the other copies are still removed from the game. The one that is on the stack does not get removed.

kennyrules99: Please read BlackStorms reply with time/date: December 21, 2000 01:28 PM
Please read the other questions before posting... I know there si a lot, but we don't like to answer the same questions over, and over, and over, and over...

wallflower41: There should be no need to correct you as you are not allowed to post in here unless you have coolio's permision. I believe he has enough people helping him right now.
akolleth: See why I was rude, too many people do this... and get the wrong answers as well.

underworld dreams: Thanks you

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posted December 30, 2000 02:23 AM            

As long as there is no tap required to use the cost, it can be used when the creature has summoning sickness.

wallflower41: Well you should have read the whole post before deciding to post on this thread. If you would have read the whole post, you would have seen that I have told the same thing I told you to at least one other person, if not more on this thread alone. Its not my fault if you felt offended... you are the one that should read the posts before replying.

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Let's say I have a collective response and a dream thrush in play along with 2 land types. My opponent attacks with a creature and pays two can I tap the thrush to make him pay 3 and if he cant, will he take 2 mana burn since he didn't/couldn't pay the 3 to officially attack?

Part 2: what if he attacks w/ multiple creatures and I do the same thing?

On Lifeline: Does the errata say that only 1. YOUR creatures come back into play
2. ALL come back into play on your side.
3. ALL come back period.

posted December 30, 2000 03:00 AM            

2)
Lifeline
Color=Artifact Type=Artifact Cost=5 US(R1)
Text(US+errata): Whenever a creature is put into a graveyard and another creature is in play, return the first creature from that graveyard to play under its owner's control at end of turn. [Oracle 99/07/21]

It works for all players and has errata to remove the "your graveyard" text. [bethmo 98/10/02]
Only triggers on a creature card going to the graveyard from play. When a card goes to the graveyard from someplace other than "in play", it is not a creature. [WotC Rules Team 98/10/18]
It checks to see if there are any creatures in play controlled by any player at the time the creature is put into the graveyard. If there are, it will put the creature back even if there are no creatures in play at the end of turn. [Urza's FAQ 98/10/05]
The creature comes back even if Lifeline leaves play. [Urza's FAQ 98/10/05]
It brings the card back even if the card was a creature only due to a spell or ability. It comes back as if newly cast, however. [WotC Rules Team 98/10/18]
If more than one creature is in play and all the creatures in play go to the graveyard at once (such as with Wrath of God), then all of them are returned at end of turn. [WotC Rules Team 98/10/18] This is because all "leaves play" triggers that check the state of the game check the game state at the time right before the card left play. See Rule A.4.21. [D'Angelo 98/11/17]
It fails to bring the creature back if the creature is not still in the graveyard at the end of turn. [D'Angelo 98/10/12]
If multiple creatures are coming back, they come back one at a time, not all at once. This is because Lifeline triggered once for each creature and set up a separate "at end of turn" effect for each. [D'Angelo 98/11/17]
There is no way to get an infinite loop with this card. This is because "at end of turn" triggers that happen after you start dealing with this turn's "at end of turn" triggers will wait until the following turn to be played. [D'Angelo 99/05/01]

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posted December 31, 2000 01:54 AM            

2) Yes, that works as long as you put the heart on the stack first. That way the vortex resolves first and you get the cards to pay the upkeep with.

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posted December 31, 2000 04:43 PM            

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