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Jeff8810
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posted February 19, 2001 11:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jeff8810   Click Here to Email Jeff8810     
I play a Silverglade Elemental. It says "when Silverglade Elemental comes into play you may search your library for a forest card and put that card into play". Can I search for a Taiga which says that it counts as both a forest and a mountain?


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posted February 20, 2001 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Archreaper   Click Here to Email Archreaper     
Ok, my opponent plays a medeling mage and because I'm playing Rebels, he names "Sivvi". Could I still play my "sivvi" because the true name of the card is "Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero"?

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posted February 20, 2001 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ragemonkey   Click Here to Email Ragemonkey     
When I play Meddling Mage, and I name Counterspell, they can't Counterspell it right? Because it says "as meddling mage is coming into play, name a card..."

I read that like if you name Shock, they can't Shock you in response...so Im guessing this applies to this situation too.

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posted February 21, 2001 05:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Llan   Click Here to Email Llan     
quote:
Originally posted by Jeff8810:
I play a Silverglade Elemental. It says "when Silverglade Elemental comes into play you may search your library for a forest card and put that card into play". Can I search for a Taiga which says that it counts as both a forest and a mountain?

Yes you can.

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Originally posted by Archreaper:
Ok, my opponent plays a medeling mage and because I'm playing Rebels, he names "Sivvi". Could I still play my "sivvi" because the true name of the card is "Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero"?


"Sivvi" is not the name of a Magic card. You must ask him to name a real magic card or ask him if he means Lin Sivvi, Defiant Hero.

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Originally posted by Ragemonkey:
When I play Meddling Mage, and I name Counterspell, they can't Counterspell it right? Because it says "as meddling mage is coming into play, name a card..."


Thatīs right in a way...you donīt name the card before Mage is in play, so you donīt know what card will be named at the time the Mage could be countered...

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posted February 21, 2001 06:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jay Jay   Click Here to Email Jay Jay     
When I use disenchant on an opponents seal of fire, canhe sac it and deal 2 damage to me?

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posted February 21, 2001 08:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Dragon97   Click Here to Email Dragon97     
Im wondering if my opponent would play Urzas Rage and I use Undermine against it but as we all know you cant counter the Rage but would he still lose 3 life?


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posted February 21, 2001 03:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for knightowl   Click Here to Email knightowl     
This probably has been asked but, if my opponent plays Urza's Rage can I play Misdirection to misdirect the spell since it isnt countering it ?
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posted February 21, 2001 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for banditknight   Click Here to Email banditknight     
If I exile an attacking creature, and the opponent turns it white in response, I know that I don't remove it, but do I gain the life? Notice on the card it never says anything about color in the sentence with the gaining life thing.


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posted February 21, 2001 05:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imafatguy     
No, you dont gain the life.

G.39.6 - If all of the targets are illegal upon resolution, then any untargeted portion of the spell or ability is also ignored because the spell or ability is countered. [CompRules 99/04/23] For example, Crumble targets an artifact to be destroyed and has an untargeted gaining of life. If the target becomes invalid, then no life will be given.



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posted February 22, 2001 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Clay   Click Here to Email Clay     
Hi, how exactly does Sea Snidd work? It says target land's type changes. Does this change the type of the TARGET land only or, for instance if you target a forest and turn it to mountains, does the FOREST type-all forests-become mountains? LMK, thanks, Clay


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posted February 22, 2001 11:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vegeta19   Click Here to Email Vegeta19     
If I play Natures Revolt all lands become 2/2 creatures. Now thier creature type would be land. Now since they are now creatures can I play Conspiracy and say something like Rebels and be able to have 4 Gaea's Cradle in play?

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posted February 22, 2001 01:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Inzane   Click Here to Email Inzane     
Okay, 2 questions.

1) My opponent casts a goblin marshal, and I have a seal of doom in play. Then he casts a sorcery on it, without giving me a chance to respond to the goblin coming into play. DOes he get the priority to cast the sorcery, or can I use the seal as soon as the marshall resolves.

2) Can beginning of upkeep effects trigger more than once. (i.e., can I use the apathy ability more than once if the creature taps right after the ability triggers?)

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posted February 22, 2001 03:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gzeiger   Click Here to Email gzeiger     
Jay Jay - yes. While the Disenchant is on the stack and has not resolved he may respond with fast effects, including Seal of Fire's ability.

Dragon97 - You may target an uncounterable spell, it just won't be countered. Undermine, Absorb, Dissipate, Dismiss and Quash all have alternate functions that still happen even though they can't counter the spell.

Knightowl - See the above. You can Misdirect an untargetable spell, since it's not trying to counter the Rage.

Clay - Sea Snidd changes only the one target land. The land type of the target forest in your example becomes Mountain (or whatever), and all other Forests remain Forests.

Vegeta19 - Wait for one with greater authority than I

InZane - I believe he does get priority to cast that Sorcery, but I hope Gwenhwyvar will answer this one too
Beginning of upkeep effects can trigger only once - after the effect has resolved or been responded to it is no longer the beginning of your upkeep.

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posted February 22, 2001 05:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Selvaxri   Click Here to Email Selvaxri     
what happens to the cards removed by Skyship Weatherlight, when it [the skyship] is removed from the game?!!?
please help!


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posted February 23, 2001 12:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for guenhwyvar     
Inzane: you have the chance to sac the seal before he uses the sorcery. You have priority after the marshal resolves.

Vegeta19: Yes and no. Natures Revolt does make lands into creatures but does not give them creature type land. Yes, however, to the conspiracy thing as conspiracy can remove legendary status. I'd post the actual ruling but it's already been posted probably 12 times.

gzeiger: Extracted ruling from scragnoth, which can be applied to rage, etc.

Counterspells like Dissipate and Memory Lapse do not have their side
effect happen when the countering fails. This is because these spells
just are a counter with a "put the card someplace instead of the graveyard
after the counter is successful", which cannot happen if the counter is
not successful. [Aahz 97/10/07]
Desertion will not put the card in play for you. It only does that if
the spell is successfully countered. [D'Angelo 98/01/20]
Counterspells do have their untargeted parts work since the counter just
fails rather than being countered itself. So Dismiss lets you draw a
card. [D'Angelo 98/01/06]
Power Sink does have its side-effect happen even if the countering fails.
[Duelist Magazine #23, Page 23]
Mana Drain does have its side-effect because it happens even if the
counter fails. [Aahz 11/17/97]
Spells such as Sleight of Mind can target Scragnoth and affect it while
it is being cast. Only countering effects are ignored.
[D'Angelo 97/12/15]
Note - Also see Protection, Rule A.24.

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posted February 23, 2001 01:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Llan   Click Here to Email Llan     
quote:
Originally posted by Selvaxri:
what happens to the cards removed by Skyship Weatherlight, when it [the skyship] is removed from the game?!!?
please help!


Well...they are removed from the game...Skyship doesnīt say anything that could change their removed-from-game-status when it goes, so they stay removed!


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posted February 23, 2001 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Hypnotic   Click Here to Email Hypnotic     
Hi coolio
my question is: if i do a fork on a urza's rage, can the fork be countered?????
LMK, on my topic with the same name
thanx alot


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posted February 23, 2001 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Vegeta19   Click Here to Email Vegeta19     
So is it legal to have 4 Gaea's Cradle in play with Natures Revolt and Conspiracy?!?

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posted February 23, 2001 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for gzeiger   Click Here to Email gzeiger     
Thanks Gwenhwyvar... I was wrong

Question: When does a replacement effect happen? For example, if combat damage is being placed on the stack with a Crumbling Sanctuary in play, does that Sanctuary change the effect as it goes on the stack or when it resolves? So if the Sanctuary were Disenchanted with damage on the stack, does it resolve as damage or as cards removed from the library?

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posted February 23, 2001 04:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeathTyrant   Click Here to Email DeathTyrant     
quote:
Originally posted by Selvaxri:
what happens to the cards removed by Skyship Weatherlight, when it [the skyship] is removed from the game?!!?
please help!

actually id like to add something on to what was answers. yes the cards stay removed from the game, but lets say you have hanna, and you take back the skyship weatherlight, you can use it again to take back the cards you previously removed, because it says "choose a card at random that was removed from the game with skyship weatherlight" it doesnt say it has to be the exact same one.

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posted February 23, 2001 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for DeathTyrant   Click Here to Email DeathTyrant     
quote:
Originally posted by gzeiger:
Clay - Sea Snidd changes only the one target land. The land type of the target forest in your example becomes Mountain (or whatever), and all other Forests remain Forests.

im going to disagree with you on this one, if that was true, why is the wording so different than dream thrush?

sea snidd affects all lands the same as the targeted land.

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posted February 24, 2001 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for DarkDamion   Click Here to Email DarkDamion     
Hey there, another question for ya.

Okay now, I have a Rack already in play ok? And my opponent puts a Ivory Mask in play, does he still take the Rack dmg cause ive already targeted him? LMK

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heres another one ..
since the familairs and medallions can reduce the kicker and buyback can Chill increase the buyback and kicked for red ?
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posted February 24, 2001 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Inzane   Click Here to Email Inzane     
1) If I cast a boomerang, and he casts orim's chant in response, does the boomerang resolve? (I think it does)

2) If I use my mother of runes to give a creature pro-black, and in response, he terrors the mother of runes, does the pro-black go through after the mother is dead?

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u guys didn't answer my questions...

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