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Renaud
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posted March 05, 2001 04:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Renaud   Click Here to Email Renaud     
Can I put Blastoderm back in my hand when Fleetfoot Panther comes into play?
This is a tiggered effect, not a targeted spell or ability, right?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Renaud on March 28, 2001]


Juss
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posted March 07, 2001 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juss   Click Here to Email Juss     
quote:
Originally posted by Renaud:
Can I put Blastoderm back in my hand when Fleetwood Panther comes into play?
This is a tiggered effect, not a targeted spell or ability, right?

Absolutely right. Only it is not a triggered effect, it's a triggered comens into play ability.

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Juss
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posted March 07, 2001 12:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juss   Click Here to Email Juss     
quote:
Originally posted by wwTOOLww:
hey, i have 2 warped devotion questions:
1. If some bounces my warped devotion do i have to discard a card?
2. If i have 2 warped devotions in play and i bounce something, does that player have to discard 2 cards??

and one tangle wire question:
If i cast a tangle wire, the next turn am i going to have to tap 3 or 4 things???? is the counter removed before or after u untap?


1)I guess you have to. I say I guess, because right now I cannot recall any appropriate rule.
2) Both WD-s trigger. Result: 2 cards are discarded.
3) It depends how you stack your Wire's abilities, that trigger at the same time. As an active palyer, you can choose. The clever way is to put tapping ability on the stack first, then fading. As a result you remove a counter and then tap three things, one of which can be Wire itself. That is why it is a good card.

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purplepat
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posted March 08, 2001 05:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for purplepat   Click Here to Email purplepat     
On my turn, I play a creature. This creature has summoning sickness.

On my opponent's turn, after blockers are declared, I play Ramosian Rally:

If you control a plains, you may tap an untapped creature you control instead of paying Ramosian Rally's mana cost. Creatures you control get +1/+1 until end of turn.

Even though the creature I cast on my turn still has summoning sickness, can I tap it with Ramosian Rally's ability to avoid paying the mana cost?

Juss
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posted March 08, 2001 06:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juss   Click Here to Email Juss     
quote:
Originally posted by purplepat:
On my turn, I play a creature. This creature has summoning sickness.

On my opponent's turn, after blockers are declared, I play Ramosian Rally:

If you control a plains, you may tap an untapped creature you control instead of paying Ramosian Rally's mana cost. Creatures you control get +1/+1 until end of turn.

Even though the creature I cast on my turn still has summoning sickness, can I tap it with Ramosian Rally's ability to avoid paying the mana cost?


You can do it. It is the cost of Ramosian rally, and it has got nothing to do with its own "summoning sickness"

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reinhart
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posted March 08, 2001 04:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for reinhart     
i have 3 lands and a scroll, but no cards in hand. Can i activate the scroll during my draw step (not main phase)?

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Goblin_Snowman
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posted March 08, 2001 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Goblin_Snowman   Click Here to Email Goblin_Snowman     
o.k 2 questions
1) how can the familairs reduce buyback and kicker ?

2) if I cast noxious vapors on my opoonent and he has 2 lobotomies can he keep them both saying one is blue and the other is black?

Juss
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posted March 08, 2001 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juss   Click Here to Email Juss     
quote:
Originally posted by reinhart:
i have 3 lands and a scroll, but no cards in hand. Can i activate the scroll during my draw step (not main phase)?

Yes, you can activate it any time. Your opponent will select a card during the resolution, and if your hand is empty that time, the Scroll will fail to do any damage.

During your draw step both players can play instants and/or abilities. If you want your Scroll to do some damage, wait until you have drawn a gard (card drawing goes on stack at the beginning of the draw step). You will receive priority during the draw step after drawing a card.

I hope that answer satisfies you.

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Juss
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posted March 08, 2001 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juss   Click Here to Email Juss     
quote:
Originally posted by Goblin_Snowman:
o.k 2 questions
1) how can the familairs reduce buyback and kicker ?

2) if I cast noxious vapors on my opoonent and he has 2 lobotomies can he keep them both saying one is blue and the other is black?


1) Familiars say "x and y spells you play cost 1 less to play". They will reduce the play cost for a spell. Buyback and Kicker are parts of a play cost.

K.20.4 - To figure out the total play cost: a) Start with the mana cost (see
Rule K.18). b) Apply cost increases from the card itself (such as from
Buyback (see Rule A.9) and cost increases from other effects (such as
from Gloom). c) Apply cost reductions from the card itself (such as
with the alternate cost spells, see Rule E.1) or from other cards (such as
Helm of Awakening or Pearl Medallion). [WotC Rules Team 98/02/01]
K.20.Ruling.1 - Using the Buyback (see Rule A.9) ability is part of the
play cost of a spell, and is added in before you apply cost decreases.
See Rule A.9.Ruling.1. [D'Angelo 98/02/03] Kicker is also part of the
play cost. See Rule A.20.Ruling.4. [D'Angelo 01/01/16]
K.20.Ruling.2 - The result of Rule K.20.4 is that the Medallions and other
cost decreasers can be applied to any part of the play cost, and not just
the mana cost. [D'Angelo 98/02/03]

2)He can choose one black (Lobotomy #1) and one blue (Lobotomy #2). He can also choose one Lobotomy to satisfy the conditions and discard everything else.

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WebHUNTER
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posted March 08, 2001 05:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WebHUNTER   Click Here to Email WebHUNTER     
Today in a game I played that Doom Specter(incorrect name I know, the one from planeshift), but I didnt have any creatures out. My opponent said I had to return the Specter, I disagree. Who is right?

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Juss
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posted March 08, 2001 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juss   Click Here to Email Juss     
quote:
Originally posted by WebHUNTER:
Today in a game I played that Doom Specter(incorrect name I know, the one from planeshift), but I didnt have any creatures out. My opponent said I had to return the Specter, I disagree. Who is right?

It must have been Doomsday Specter, a Black/Blue creature with Gating. Gating asks you to return a blue of a black creature (in case of D. Specter) you control to owner's hand when it comes into play. When the only creature in play is Specter itself when its gating ability resolves then yes, wou would have to return it. Your opponent was right.

Doomsday Specter:
Info: Color=Multi Type=Creature - Specter Cost=2UB PS(R1)
Text(PS): 2/3, Flying. ; When ~this~ comes into play, return a blue or black
creature you control to its owner's hand. ; Whenever ~this~ deals combat
damage to a player, look at that player's hand and choose a card from it.
The player discards that card.

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fatman
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posted March 08, 2001 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fatman   Click Here to Email fatman     
if i "animate" a mox emerald with karn do i have time to sacrifice it to ashnods alter before it dies do to being 0/0??

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mofo888
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posted March 08, 2001 10:22 PM           

If I play Urborg Shamber (all other black creatures get -1/-1), does all the 1/1 black
weenies die?

What about regen skeletons, etc?


Juss
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posted March 09, 2001 04:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juss   Click Here to Email Juss     
quote:
Originally posted by fatman:
if i "animate" a mox emerald with karn do i have time to sacrifice it to ashnods alter before it dies do to being 0/0??


No. State-based effects are checked before any player would receive priority.

Juss
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Juss
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posted March 09, 2001 04:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Juss   Click Here to Email Juss     
quote:
Originally posted by mofo888:

If I play Urborg Shamber (all other black creatures get -1/-1), does all the 1/1 black
weenies die?

What about regen skeletons, etc?


All the black weenies will die. Regeneration won't help, because regeneration can prevent only a destroy effect or lethal damage. Of your creature has 0 toughness, regeneration cannot raise it.

Juss
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PS. I recomment you to read about regeneration from the rules. That could help you a lot.


Swjackson_80
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posted March 09, 2001 04:56 AM           
Ok, here we go.
1)Humility in play. If I cast an Opalesense, what does humility become, a 4/4 or a 1/1?
2)Same as above, but I cast a second Opalesense. Again, what happens?
3)Same as #1, then i cast living lands. If i play a land, can i tap it before humility's effect removes the tap ability?

This has bugged me for a while now. A while ago, someone tried to explain it to me, but got me lost. Hope you have better luck than I have.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Swjackson_80 on March 09, 2001]


WebHUNTER
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posted March 09, 2001 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for WebHUNTER   Click Here to Email WebHUNTER     
Thanks Juss

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mofo888
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posted March 09, 2001 02:50 PM           
thanks juss! i will read the regen section.


[Edited 1 times, lastly by mofo888 on March 09, 2001]


Drengar
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posted March 09, 2001 02:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Drengar   Click Here to Email Drengar     
quote:
Originally posted by Swjackson_80:
Ok, here we go.
1)Humility in play. If I cast an Opalesense, what does humility become, a 4/4 or a 1/1?
2)Same as above, but I cast a second Opalesense. Again, what happens?
3)Same as #1, then i cast living lands. If i play a land, can i tap it before humility's effect removes the tap ability?

This has bugged me for a while now. A while ago, someone tried to explain it to me, but got me lost. Hope you have better luck than I have.


that's the only rule on this post

no opalesence humil questions

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soffty
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posted March 10, 2001 08:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for soffty   Click Here to Email soffty     
Please...I need a ruling. Magma Burst, kicker. I see it as targeting any target, and you can target the same target for a total of 6 damage. It states "another target". Any target is another target. It doesn't say "a different target". But, I have received a judges ruling saying it must be a different target. Help!


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posted March 10, 2001 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for BlackStorm   Click Here to Email BlackStorm     
quote:
Originally posted by soffty:
Please...I need a ruling. Magma Burst, kicker. I see it as targeting any target, and you can target the same target for a total of 6 damage. It states "another target". Any target is another target. It doesn't say "a different target". But, I have received a judges ruling saying it must be a different target. Help!

Yes you have to target a different target. It says "another target" the first one you target in the first. Then you need to target another target, not the same one.

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posted March 10, 2001 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for William888   Click Here to Email William888     
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acid
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posted March 13, 2001 07:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for acid   Click Here to Email acid     
few questions:
1. in big tournament (gp, nationals, pt or something), what would jugde do if someone cast armadillo cloak to blurred mongoose and itīs in play... hmm lets say... few turns until someone notices that.

2. i have peat bog with 1 counter in it. i i play lair land, i tap peat bog for mana and return peat bog to my hand before it is destroyed.... im not sure can i do that


Iguanaonastick
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posted March 15, 2001 02:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Iguanaonastick   Click Here to Email Iguanaonastick     
Does Overburden activate when a Nether Spirit comes into play from the graveyard? It's important.


Bubbling_Beeble
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posted March 15, 2001 02:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bubbling_Beeble   Click Here to Email Bubbling_Beeble     
Can Trample go over Protection from whatever color it is?

Need Answer ASAP

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