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Topic: Need a Ruling?.. Come on in!.. Pt. 6
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Hypnotic Member
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posted February 24, 2001 09:34 PM
come on coolio, i really need an answer, if i do a fork on a urza's rage, can the fork be countered? Please answer me on my topic (name of the topic is the question) or at least by e-mail. Thanx a lot!!
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reinhart Member
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posted February 25, 2001 02:07 AM
Can I Disenchant or cast Tranquility on Hidden Gibbons?__________________ Looking for someone to play Apprentice with?
[Edited 1 times, lastly by reinhart on February 25, 2001]
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Selvaxri Member
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posted February 25, 2001 04:43 PM
1> does trample damage go through blocked creatures? 2> my opponent attacks and my life is at 0, when the damage go through, can i use Hero's Reunion (or other life-gainer) to stay alive? lmk -Selvaxri
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londes Member
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posted February 25, 2001 05:51 PM
I'm at 1, my opponents at 3.I earthqukae for 3...what happens? __________________ GTO - Trade Board - www.goodtradersonline.com Londe's Buy/Sell Page - www.geocities.com/londes28
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Mageta22787 unregistered
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posted February 25, 2001 06:17 PM
Coolio, I am just looking for a ruling with Orim's Chant. I am not sure if anyone has asked this and I am sorry if someone already has but with Orim's Chant, can I do it in response to your attack with kicker, leaving your creatures tapped and unable to block or do I have to do it in response to attackers and therefore they will be untaped. My friend told me that in a draft someone was going to win when he attacked and his opponent chanted him with kicker and then on his opponents turn he just attacked for the win. Thanx for any help you can give me.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Mageta22787 on February 25, 2001]
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Llan Member
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posted February 26, 2001 03:26 AM
quote: Originally posted by Hypnotic: come on coolio, i really need an answer, if i do a fork on a urza's rage, can the fork be countered? Please answer me on my topic (name of the topic is the question) or at least by e-mail. Thanx a lot!!
Let me quote the Meridian Magic Q&A and L3 judge Michael Kastberg here: Q: If I fork an Urza's Rage, is the fork uncounterable? A: Yes. Urza’s Rage effecttively says ” ~this~ can't be countered by spells or abilities”. Fork copies that __________________ --- Check out www.rings.de Now with my new expansion set DAWN OF EVIL!
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Juss Member
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posted February 26, 2001 05:49 AM
quote: Originally posted by reinhart: Can I Disenchant or cast Tranquility on Hidden Gibbons?
An advice: read the Oracle. Hidden Gibbons Color=Green Type=Enchantment Cost=G UL(R1) Text(UL+errata): When an opponent plays an instant spell, if ~this~ is an enchantment, ~this~ becomes a 4/4 Ape creature. [Oracle 99/05/01] When it turns into a creature, it no longer counts as an enchantment. [Urza's Saga Rule Page] It changes into a creature even if the spell is countered. [D'Angelo 99/05/01] It becomes a creature when the spell is played (which means announced), which is before the spell resolves. A Disenchant cannot be used to destroy this card, since it will no longer be an enchantment when the Disenchant resolves. [D'Angelo 99/02/13] So the answers to your questions are: you can cast Disenchant on Gibbons, but it will be countered upon resolution because the Gibbons is no longer an enchantment. Disenchant does not kill Hidden Gibbons. Tranquility, however, is a sorcery and therefore takes down the Gibbons, unless some instant is played before Tranquility resolves. Juss Level 1 judge
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Gaea's Cradle Member
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posted February 26, 2001 07:35 AM
Joke Over
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*Tedman* Member
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posted February 26, 2001 12:09 PM
Gaea's Cradle: it was nice knowing you. No wait, no it wasn't!__________________ MOTL Deck Help/Construction and Articles Moderator
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Goaswerfraiejen Member
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posted February 26, 2001 12:20 PM
quote: Originally posted by Gaea's Cradle:
ALL RIGHT!!! What the HELL are you referring to, or are you intentionaly being an *** ? Do you even realize what you are doing?!? You are picking on MODS AND WILL SOON BE KARMA SMACKED. What is the point of your idiotic posts? I DON'T UNDERSTAND!!! __________________ Evil-doers! Cower in fright for I am the one, the only...uhh... Psst! Mat! What was that name again?What's yours is mine, and what's mine is mine...
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Inzane Member
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posted February 26, 2001 12:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by Inzane: 1) If I cast a boomerang, and he casts orim's chant in response, does the boomerang resolve? (I think it does)2) If I use my mother of runes to give a creature pro-black, and in response, he terrors the mother of runes, does the pro-black go through after the mother is dead?
Can someone plz answer my question
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monty Member
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posted February 26, 2001 12:47 PM
quote: Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen: ALL RIGHT!!! What the HELL are you referring to, or are you intentionaly being an *** ? Do you even realize what you are doing?!? You are picking on MODS AND WILL SOON BE KARMA SMACKED. What is the point of your idiotic posts? I DON'T UNDERSTAND!!!
Goas, it is obvious he is just being an idiot. I think you can TRY to understand that. Please stop going around posting that you don't understand. It is MAD annoying(if you really don't understand, just pretend you don't look stupid) __________________ dweinberg@flashcom.net visit http://www.searchcactus.com/member/welcome.asp?266711 for FREE money!
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William888 Member
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posted February 26, 2001 01:23 PM
hi! very tough question:Can I have pariah and treacherous link on the same creature? What will happen if I do put both of them on the same creature? (Pariah says all damage dealt you gets redirected to enchanted creature) (Treacherous link says all damage dealt to enchanted creature gets redirected to you)
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Juss Member
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posted February 27, 2001 04:35 AM
To: Inzane1) Adding a kickered Orim´s Chant on stack as a response to Boomerang will not stop Boomerang from resolving. It will prevent spells from being played after it has resolved. 2) Removing the source of an ability does not stop the ability. Ability exists independently of its source once put on stack, so Terroring a Mother of Runes would do nothing to the prot: black it would give. It will work both way -- if someone responds with a Terror to your MoR ability or if you use MoR in response to a Terror. The latter is actually strategically correct way of using Mother of Runes. Most of the time. Keep in mind that you will choose the color of MoR protection ability during the resolution, not the announcement. You will choose a target during announcement. Juss Level 1 judge
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Juss Member
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posted February 27, 2001 04:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by William888: hi! very tough question:Can I have pariah and treacherous link on the same creature? What will happen if I do put both of them on the same creature? (Pariah says all damage dealt you gets redirected to enchanted creature) (Treacherous link says all damage dealt to enchanted creature gets redirected to you)
You sure can have them on the same creature. Maybe Oracle will answer your question: T.10.8 - Each replacement effect gets only one opportunity to apply to each event. For example, a player controls two copies of a permanent with the ability "instead of dealing their normal damage, creatures you control deal double that damage." A creature that normally deals 1 damage will deal 4 damage, not just 2, and not an infinite amount. [CompRules 99/04/23] For another example, if a creature has both Pariah and Treacherous Link on it, then there is no loop. The damage always ends up where it would have been if neither had been there. [D'Angelo 00/01/02] It works like this: You are dealt damage. Pariah will apply and redirect damage to enchanted creature. Then Treacherous Link will apply and redirect damage back to you. Since Pariah has already done its job on this damage source, it will not redirect this damage again. or Your creature is dealt damage. T. Link redirects it to you, Pariah redirects it to the creature. I hope that makes it more clear. I can quote more rules, but I suggest you to read sections G.12 and T.10 from Oracle General Rulings summary. Juss Level 1 judge
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purplepat Member
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posted February 27, 2001 05:19 AM
Hey Coolman - here's an easy one for you....Say I've got Zirlian of the Claw in play and use its ability to bring a Dragon into play. After my attack and damage is dealt, if I have a way to bounce the summoned dragon back to my hand before the end of turn step begins, can I avoid the Zirlian's effect of having to remove the summoned dragon from the game? If this works, how "late" can I bounce the dragon without having to remove it from the game?
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reinhart Member
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posted February 27, 2001 06:23 AM
quote: Tranquility, however, is a sorcery and therefore takes down the Gibbons, unless some instant is played before Tranquility resolves.
How is that? The gibbons is a creature when the tranquility resolves, right? __________________ Looking for someone to play Apprentice with?
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Zahmet unregistered
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posted February 27, 2001 06:23 AM
Does karma do 1 point of dmg. many times or does it do alot of dmg. at once ??Ex. if I have 5 swamps in play and a karma is in play do I take 1 dmg 5 times or do I take 5 dmg at once ?
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Juss Member
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posted February 28, 2001 02:02 AM
quote: Originally posted by reinhart: How is that? The gibbons is a creature when the tranquility resolves, right?
Hidden Gibbons Color=Green Type=Enchantment Cost=G UL(R1) Text(UL+errata): When an opponent plays an instant spell, if ~this~ is an enchantment, ~this~ becomes a 4/4 Ape creature. [Oracle 99/05/01] When it turns into a creature, it no longer counts as an enchantment. [Urza's Saga Rule Page] It changes into a creature even if the spell is countered. [D'Angelo 99/05/01] It becomes a creature when the spell is played (which means announced), which is before the spell resolves. A Disenchant cannot be used to destroy this card, since it will no longer be an enchantment when the Disenchant resolves. [D'Angelo 99/02/13] Note - All cards of type interrupt have errata to be of type instant. Tranquility is a sorcery. Hidden Gibbons turns into a creature when an instant spell is played by an opponent. Juss Level 1 judge
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Juss Member
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posted February 28, 2001 02:16 AM
quote: Originally posted by purplepat: Hey Coolman - here's an easy one for you.... Say I've got Zirlian of the Claw in play and use its ability to bring a Dragon into play. After my attack and damage is dealt, if I have a way to bounce the summoned dragon back to my hand before the end of turn step begins, can I avoid the Zirlian's effect of having to remove the summoned dragon from the game? If this works, how "late" can I bounce the dragon without having to remove it from the game?
Zirilan of the Claw Color=Red Type=Creature - Legend Cost=3RR MI(R1) Text(MI+errata): 3/4 ; {1}{R}{R},{Tap}: Search your library for a Dragon card and put that card into play. Then shuffle your library. That Dragon gains haste until end of turn. At end of turn, remove it from the game. [Oracle 99/07/01] If the Dragon is brought into play and then phases out, the "At end of turn remove it from the game" will be forgotten. [D'Angelo 98/10/30] Note - Also see Haste, Rule A.18. The Dragon will be removed from the game only if it is in play when the Claw's "remove" ability resolves. Bouncing would be a good idea, your idea works. Claw has an ability which triggers "at the end of turn", that means, when End of Turn step begins. The ability is put on stack and you should bounce your Dragon before it resolves. So the answer to your question is that the End of Turns step is "late enough" to bounce, just be careful with passing priority. Juss Level 1 judge
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Juss Member
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posted February 28, 2001 02:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by Zahmet: Does karma do 1 point of dmg. many times or does it do alot of dmg. at once ?? Ex. if I have 5 swamps in play and a karma is in play do I take 1 dmg 5 times or do I take 5 dmg at once ?
Karma Color=White Type=Enchantment Cost=2WW ABUR45(U1) Text(5th+errata): At the beginning of each player's upkeep, ~this~ deals to that player damage equal to the number of swamps he or she controls. [Oracle 00/02/01] Amount of damage is determined in when effect is resolved and not when it is placed on the stack. [D'Angelo 95/10/05] You will take alot of damage at once, the amount being equal to the number of swamps you control when Karma's ability resolves. In your example, you will take 5 damage, _not_ 1+1+1+1+1, and you can use for example CoP: White only once to prevent all that damage.
Juss Level 1 judge
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Vegeta19 Member
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posted February 28, 2001 10:40 AM
If I play a Kavu Chameleon and my opponent plays Undermine do I still lose 3 life even though the spell would fizzle since Kavu Chameleon can't be countered?__________________ "One day you will all realize the power of Pale Moon!"
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TheFireStarter Member
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posted February 28, 2001 02:47 PM
~ A.10.Ruling.5 - This ability is put on the stack (see Rule T.2) at the beginning of upkeep. If the permanent leaves play before this ability resolves, you still have to resolve it. Of course, you can just decide not to pay and there will be nothing to sacrifice. But you can also choose to pay if you really want to. [D'Angelo 99/05/01] A.10.Ruling.6 - If the cumulative upkeep cost somehow changes between the time the ability is placed on the stack and when it resolves, use the cost at the time it was put on the stack. [DeLaney 00/01/13] ~These are both Ruleing taken straight off of Krystal Keep... I was recently playing in a torny, and had a Illusions Donated to me (With 2 as the *** . Upkeep)... I wanted to stack the upkeep, then pay 2. But, my opponent told me I was wrong, and also stalling... So, I lose, even though I did not even finish my upkeep, because my opponent was repeatly telling me I was wrong, and stalling, and was also running it.. I think I was correct, and definantly not stalling. Please e-mail me an awnser as soon as you can. Thank You. If you can't e-mail me, then just reply. __________________ ~Stupid Rambleing Ends Here~ E-mail: imthefirestarter@hotmail.com AIM: NaimOfNone Team Scubluv is gonna rock JSS 00-01 with style. When I see a street-sign that says "SLOW CHILDREN", I think great, now they'll be easier to hit.
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gzeiger Member
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posted February 28, 2001 11:43 PM
I'm confused... You were trying to pay the mana for the upkeep before putting the upkeep counter on it? You can't do that - cumulative upkeep is all one effect. It counts the turn and then asks you to pay the upkeep all at the same time.
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wwTOOLww Member
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posted February 28, 2001 11:46 PM
question about trample:if i attack with a 10/10 trample, and my opponent blocks with 2 5/5 can i assign all damage to one, thus trample over and hit them for 5? also, if i attack with my red 10/10 trample and someone blocks with a pro red 1/1 does he take the 9 or no?????? thanks
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