posted January 09, 2004 10:04 AM            

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Hu, i where thinking of making a new deck... It's going on this combo
Oath of druids....... blah blah blah...
Then some of these goes to your graveyard, dragon shadow, dragon breath and so on... A serra avatr comes into play...
All because of oath. But is the dragon shadow and those in your graveyard when avatar comes into play so they will enchant it? or does they go to the graveyard after the avatar have joined the game?

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posted January 09, 2004 11:10 AM            

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Originally posted by St. Anger aka RHOX:
If I Have Standstill In Play And I Activate The Ability Of My Isochron Scepter, Will It Cause Standstill To Break?

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posted January 09, 2004 11:27 AM            

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Originally posted by St. Anger aka RHOX:
but the scepter says copy the imprinted spell not play the imprinted spell

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Read it again, it says copy the Imprinted spell, you may then Play that spell. When you activate Sceptor the spell will get copied no matter what, then you have the choice of playing the spell or not, if you choose to play the spell, Standstill will trigger.

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posted January 09, 2004 11:31 AM            

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But is the dragon shadow and those in your graveyard when avatar comes into play so they will enchant it? or does they go to the graveyard after the avatar have joined the game?

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The enchantments will trigger and, if you wish, can be put on the Serra Avatar because they all are put in the graveyard as part of the resolution of the Oath of Druids trigger.

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but the scepter says copy the imprinted spell not play the imprinted spell

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No, it doesn't. It says to copy the card and that you may PLAY the copy. As GMontag said, if you choose to play the copy, it will trigger Standstill. If you choose NOT to play the copy, no spell has been played so Standstill will not be triggered. Activating the ability will not trigger Standstill and doesn't mean the spell will be played. Since you MAY play the spell, you could simply choose not to play it. (That allows you to use the Scepter as a "mana dump".)

posted January 09, 2004 08:13 PM            

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Originally posted by ths_chess:
I have another one. If my friend enchants my creature with his Armadillo cloak, will he gain life or does it mean that the creatures controller gains that much life? We have had debates about this often, as he likes to slap then on my more menacing creatures and laugh as his damage is just cancelled out. I'll show him... with a proper ruling.

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Unfortunately for you, he's right.

Armadillo Cloak says "Whenever enchanted creature deals damage, you gain that much life." 'You' always refers to the controller of the card the text is on, which in this case is Armadillo Cloak. Since your opponent controls the Cloak, he gets the life.

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Originally posted by ths_chess:
I also want another opinion on the Orim's Chant and Isochron Scepter. How does the kicker work if you have already used the scepter? It makes absolutely no sense.
Thanks and LMK.

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posted January 10, 2004 02:13 AM            

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Originally posted by mulder:
Can you Stifle a Chalice when your opponent plays it for 1?

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posted January 10, 2004 08:06 AM            

stack during your opponent's turn
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gempalm trigger
rift trigger
cycling ability
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stack if activated during your turn
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rift trigger
gempalm trigger
cycling ability
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posted January 10, 2004 10:00 AM            

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Originally posted by Golfp2:
Stupid Question:
Can you play with a 40 card deck in casual play or is it required 2 be at least 60
thanx

please email me at LargeDean@comcast.net

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It's casual..do what ya want to do.
MY friends get upset if we play casual and the deck is not 60.

posted January 10, 2004 10:38 AM            

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Originally posted by Death Touch:
If my opponent cycles a decree of justice at the end of my turn for a bunch of soldiers, do i have a chance to play a card like wail of the nim before he untaps his lands?

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assuming wail of the nim is an instant, then yes, you would have time to play it before your turn ended, as turns don't end until both people pass priority.

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posted January 10, 2004 01:46 PM            

But I think I may start going to the l;ocal store to play, so i need to know the rules.

The only thing I have a problem with is mana burn.

Could someone explain this to my gigantic noobness

The main question is, do I mostly this:
example i have 6 island in play - I tap 4 - I play a clone which takes 4. Now, later in the turn my oppenent plays something I want to counter...did I have to have all 6 lands tapped right away?

If I didn't counter then I would take 2 pts of mana burn?

thanks for any help.
-D

posted January 10, 2004 01:56 PM            

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Originally posted by dputz:
Ok,
I never learned to play the right way, and have always just played casual with only the three other people that learned the same as I did.

But I think I may start going to the l;ocal store to play, so i need to know the rules.

The only thing I have a problem with is mana burn.

Could someone explain this to my gigantic noobness

The main question is, do I mostly this:
example i have 6 island in play - I tap 4 - I play a clone which takes 4. Now, later in the turn my oppenent plays something I want to counter...did I have to have all 6 lands tapped right away?

If I didn't counter then I would take 2 pts of mana burn?

thanks for any help.
-D

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Mana burn is if you have mana in your pool at the end of a phase (1st Main, Attack and 2nd Main.) If you have 6 islands, and tap 4 and play your clone, that's fine. If you want to counter a spell, and tap 2 for your counterspell and play it, that's fine too. Now if you were tap those 2 lands, then decide not to play your counterspell, and left those 2 lands tapped, you would have 2 mana in your mana pool. If you don't play something to use up that mana by the end of the phase, you will take 2 damage. Does that make sense?

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posted January 10, 2004 02:21 PM            

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Originally posted by mattdeballer:
cards needed:
grim lavamancer(in play)
3 hammer of bogardan(1 in hand, 1 in graveyard, 1 in sideboard)
burning wish(in gragveyard, by discard)
spellweaver helix
ok heres the combo
1. have lavamancer on the field.
2. play helix, removing the hammer and burning wish in your grave from the game.
3. play the hammer in your hand, which activates the helix, allowing you to take the hammer in your sideboard and put it in your hand, from the copy of burning wish.
4. use lavamancer's ability to remove the used hammer out of the game.
5. replay the hammer you just got back from the helix's ability, to make another copy of burning wish, to bring back the other hammer.
6. keep replaying steps 4+5 as many times as you wish or are able to.

i know the fact of getting all of these cards at once is highly unlikely, but id just like to know if it is legal or not. help me

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What you want to do will work, you just have to make sure to remove 2 cards when you use the Lavamancers ability.

Easier combo with about the same set up but instead of playing the Hammer, play another Burning Wish and Wish for a Burning Wish from your sideboard or one that you played earlier in the game. So instead of spending 3 mana per hammer and copying the wish, you only spend 2 mana per wish and copy the hammer.

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posted January 10, 2004 03:49 PM            

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Mana burn is if you have mana in your pool at the end of a phase (1st Main, Attack and 2nd Main.) If you have 6 islands, and tap 4 and play your clone, that's fine. If you want to counter a spell, and tap 2 for your counterspell and play it, that's fine too. Now if you were tap those 2 lands, then decide not to play your counterspell, and left those 2 lands tapped, you would have 2 mana in your mana pool. If you don't play something to use up that mana by the end of the phase, you will take 2 damage. Does that make sense?

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Kinda makes sense, but once I tap to play the counterspell, don't I have to play it?

posted January 10, 2004 07:17 PM            

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Originally posted by dputz:
Kinda makes sense, but once I tap to play the counterspell, don't I have to play it?

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Tapping lands for mana and playing spells are completely seperate things in Magic. One fuels the other, and you may play mana abilities while in the middle of announcing a spell or ability, but other than that they don't have to be done one before the other. For example, a popular tournament deck is Psychatog, and it uses a combo w/Upheaval (4UU, Sorcery, Return all permaments to their owner's hands). What you have to do is get at least 8 lands out, and then tap all the lands for 8 mana, and use 6 of it to play Upheaval. Then while you are still in your main phase after the Upheaval resolves, you play your land for the turn and tap it for another mana (that's 3 total combined with the 2 you still had left). Then you play your Psychatog. If all goes well you will attack next turn and your opponent is defenseless, and then you pump it up for the kill.

That's a pretty good example of how you don't have to play spells as soon as you tap the lands for mana. I hope that's what you were asking...lol...

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