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Topic: Rulings Thread, part 26: Post ALL Rules Questions here!
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BenBuhlar
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posted September 02, 2004 03:25 PM
 
Another Question involving Eureka:I had had a Kavu Lair in play how would this effect revolve around creatures with gating such as Shivan Wurm Thanks __________________
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orcishartillery
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posted September 02, 2004 06:42 PM
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Originally posted by BenBuhlar:
Another Question involving Eureka:I had had a Kavu Lair in play how would this effect revolve around creatures with gating such as Shivan Wurm
Kavu Lair and Shivan Wurm both have triggered abilities; the abilities will go on the stack after Eureka has finished resolving. When the abilities resolve, you will draw a card and return a red or green creature to your hand.
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FiestaVaca
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posted September 03, 2004 08:52 PM
If there is a Root Maze in play, and with a Goblin Welder I "weld" in a Mindslaver, is it tapped?*edits*
Also, is a mana source such as Culling the Weak used once, then discarded? If not, is it discarded at end of phase? End of turn? Thanks guys __________________
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[Edited 2 times, lastly by FiestaVaca on September 03, 2004]
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Cab
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posted September 03, 2004 11:34 PM
Question about affinity and aether vial:
If I have 3 artifacts out, a frogmite in hand, and 1 charge counter on my aether vial in play, can I tap the vial to play the frogmite?? I think you can, but I'm not positive. Thanks in advance!__________________
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KtotheG
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posted September 04, 2004 12:46 AM
I'm playing Pentavus...Can I pay 1 to make a Pentavite token and attack with the token in the same turn. I'm confused by the text on the card and the rules on summoning sickness. Thanks.
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BenBuhlar
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posted September 04, 2004 02:05 AM
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Originally posted by KtotheG:
I'm playing Pentavus...Can I pay 1 to make a Pentavite token and attack with the token in the same turn. I'm confused by the text on the card and the rules on summoning sickness. Thanks.
All creaures have summoning sickness unless stated that they have haste, This applies to Manlands as well and Pentevus tokens also come into play like any creature thus also having summoning sickness. Hope this helps Ben __________________
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airwalk
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posted September 04, 2004 06:55 AM
I have a Phyrexian Negator in play and my opponent attacks with a White Knight, can i block it?
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FiestaVaca
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posted September 04, 2004 07:09 AM
Nope, but it can block your Negator __________________
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RiCeOwNaGe
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posted September 04, 2004 07:22 AM
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Originally posted by Cab:
Question about affinity and aether vial:
If I have 3 artifacts out, a frogmite in hand, and 1 charge counter on my aether vial in play, can I tap the vial to play the frogmite?? I think you can, but I'm not positive. Thanks in advance!
The converted mana cost of a card is always found on the top right corner of the card. So to play the Frogmite with Vial you'd need 4 counters. __________________
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zipykido
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posted September 04, 2004 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by FiestaVaca:
If there is a Root Maze in play, and with a Goblin Welder I "weld" in a Mindslaver, is it tapped?*edits*
Also, is a mana source such as Culling the Weak used once, then discarded? If not, is it discarded at end of phase? End of turn? Thanks guys
Root maze affects any/all artifacts that comes into play. Welder reads: T: Choose target artifact a player controls and target artifact card in that player's graveyard. If both targets are still legal as this ability resolves, that player simultaneously sacrifices the artifact in play and puts the other artifact from his or her graveyard into play. So yes, a mindslaver coming into play through welder would come into play tapped. Culling the weak has been errated so that it is now an instant. But before then, it would have been played as a mana source and would have been put into the graveyard after it resolved. __________________
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airwalk
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posted September 04, 2004 08:02 AM
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Originally posted by FiestaVaca:
Nope, but it can block your Negator
Ok thanks, it's been years since i have had to worry about the rules of "protection from"
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FiestaVaca
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posted September 04, 2004 08:08 AM
No probAlso, since Culling of the Weak has been errated into being an instant, am I correct in assuming that you cannot sacrifice more than one creature to the same Culling of the Weak? Thanks for your help __________________
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samus_ssp
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posted September 04, 2004 10:28 AM
Any of the pre 6th eddition card that have a 'cost:effect' format on an Instant(manasorce)/sorcery were ment to be used only once. Here is the Orical Text:
"As an additional cost to play Culling the Weak, sacrifice a creature.
Add {B}{B}{B}{B} to your mana pool."__________________
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Cab
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posted September 04, 2004 11:42 AM
quote:
Originally posted by Cab:
Question about affinity and aether vial:
If I have 3 artifacts out, a frogmite in hand, and 1 charge counter on my aether vial in play, can I tap the vial to play the frogmite?? I think you can, but I'm not positive. Thanks in advance!
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The converted mana cost of a card is always found on the top right corner of the card. So to play the Frogmite with Vial you'd need 4 counters.
Then why is aether vial even used in affinity?? __________________
"He knew suddenly that he was not going to escape. He was only mildly surprised to discover that he no longer cared.
An instant later, he was dead."On a lighter note:
"Jesus is our king
I feel so blessed to bear this news
Jesus is our king
I don't know why we've got Jews"
-Calvi
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Master
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posted September 04, 2004 12:27 PM
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Originally posted by Cab:
Then why is aether vial even used in affinity??
Because it puts Atogs, disciples, ravagers and sometimes retriever into play at instant speed making it a huge threat. If you dont block everything, they can just put a disciple in or a ravager in and kill you.
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voodooglowskull
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posted September 04, 2004 04:21 PM
if i have a winter orb already in play for a turn or so lets say and the opponent has 3 of his 4 lands tapped and on my turn i play a tangle wire what happens? Do the ones already tapped by the orb count towards the wire? And which effect happens first, the wire? causing them to tap all four but then they get to untap one because of the orb? or i just dont know? __________________
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xingchen
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posted September 04, 2004 04:48 PM
Question:
How do you handle the situation when both players have the Earthcraft/Squirrel Nest combo out?Thanks
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da-odd-templar
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posted September 04, 2004 05:20 PM
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Originally posted by voodooglowskull:
if i have a winter orb already in play for a turn or so lets say and the opponent has 3 of his 4 lands tapped and on my turn i play a tangle wire what happens? Do the ones already tapped by the orb count towards the wire? And which effect happens first, the wire? causing them to tap all four but then they get to untap one because of the orb? or i just dont know?
Untapping happens before the upkeep. So they choose one land to untap, then Tangle Wire makes them tap some untapped permanents (this means they cannot count the lands that are already tapped as part of the Tangle Wire's effect).
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da-odd-templar
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posted September 04, 2004 05:21 PM
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Originally posted by xingchen:
Question:
How do you handle the situation when both players have the Earthcraft/Squirrel Nest combo out?Thanks
One player chooses a number of cycles to go through, the other player either agrees or chooses a higher number. Once they agree on a number the cycles happen that many times. I would like some confirmation on this as I'm a but rusty on handling these things.
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xingchen
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posted September 06, 2004 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by da-odd-templar:
One player chooses a number of cycles to go through, the other player either agrees or chooses a higher number. Once they agree on a number the cycles happen that many times.I would like some confirmation on this as I'm a but rusty on handling these things.
Yeah true, but if both cycles resolves.. can't they start a new cicle than? Is it who is the most persistent wins? :P
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Tahngarth666
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posted September 06, 2004 11:12 AM
When Dragon Fangs (or another one of that cycle) is returned to play by it's ability (on a creature with converted mana cost 6 or more), does it target the creature? (If the creature is untargetable (eg Zephid) does Dragon Fangs enchant it or not?Sorry I'm doing Saga/Apc/Scourge sealed. 
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da-odd-templar
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posted September 06, 2004 11:37 AM
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Originally posted by Tahngarth666:
When Dragon Fangs (or another one of that cycle) is returned to play by it's ability (on a creature with converted mana cost 6 or more), does it target the creature? (If the creature is untargetable (eg Zephid) does Dragon Fangs enchant it or not?Sorry I'm doing Saga/Apc/Scourge sealed.
Dragon Fangs
Color: Green
Type: Enchant Creature
Cost: 1G
Sets: SC(C)
Text(SC): Enchanted creature gets +1/+1 and has trample. ; When a creature with converted mana cost {6} or more comes into play, you may return ~this~ from your graveyard to play enchanting that creature.
* Note - Also see Converted Mana Cost, Rule G3.25.
* Note - Also see Trample, Rule 502.9. No, it does not target when it comes back into play. Why? Because it doesn't say it targets. 
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Chumleyhack
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posted September 06, 2004 05:13 PM
Ok, here's the setup:1) Energy flux is in play;
2) I have a goblin welder in play;
3) I have a sol ring in play;
4) at the beginning of my upkeep, rather than paying 2 to keep the sol ring out, I want to swap it with another artifact in my graveyard. Is there any way to do this without having to pay the 2 mana for the energy flux on the new artifact?
We are currently in the middle of this match, so if you have any suggestions now that would be great, but some tomorrow would also be good. Thanks for the help
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axn
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posted September 06, 2004 05:47 PM
just go ahead and weld it out
energy flux gives the ability to the artifact, and that ability only triggers at beginning of upkeep
you won't have to pay the upkeep on an artifact welded in after the beginning of upkeep
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Chumleyhack
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posted September 06, 2004 05:50 PM
Thanks!!! Good to have a ruling so quick.
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