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darius vitrosoo
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sorry for posting in wrong spot

necrotic ooze from scars of mirrodin. i know it checks all graveyards for all activated abilities the question is this.

if i have a leveler in the yard like encave cyrptoloigis does the ooze get both abilites? is it the same for all levelers with abilites?

if i play phylatcy lich (i know i spelled it wrong) and i have the liquitment coating out can i turn lich into an artifact and put his own counter on himself?

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quote:
Originally posted by darius vitrosoo:
sorry for posting in wrong spot

necrotic ooze from scars of mirrodin. i know it checks all graveyards for all activated abilities the question is this.

if i have a leveler in the yard like encave cyrptoloigis does the ooze get both abilites? is it the same for all levelers with abilites?


It will have the Level Up ability, but it will not gain the static abilities which grant P/T and abilities at certain levels. So, you can add counters, but they'll do no good.

quote:
if i play phylatcy lich (i know i spelled it wrong) and i have the liquitment coating out can i turn lich into an artifact and put his own counter on himself?

No. The lich is not in play, yet, when the counter must be placed. It is an ETB replacement effect, not a trigger.




[Edited 1 times, lastly by Meddling Pimp on September 26, 2010]

 
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Rules Question:

Infiltration lens

If you attack and your equipped creature is blocked by multiple creatures... do you draw multiple cards?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Malice327:
Rules Question:

Infiltration lens

If you attack and your equipped creature is blocked by multiple creatures... do you draw multiple cards?


Yes. From the scars FAQ:

quote:
Infiltration Lens
{1}
Artifact -- Equipment
Whenever equipped creature becomes blocked by a creature, you may draw two cards.

* If the equipped creature becomes blocked by multiple creatures, Infiltration Lens's ability triggers that many times.



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Is Leonin Arbiter's escape clause an activated ability? If my opponent has a fetchland and I have a Wasteland, and he pays 2 to search that turn, can I respond to this by wasting his fetchland so he can't get anything?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Ncromonitor:
Is Leonin Arbiter's escape clause an activated ability? If my opponent has a fetchland and I have a Wasteland, and he pays 2 to search that turn, can I respond to this by wasting his fetchland so he can't get anything?

recommend reading the FAQ:

* Paying {2} to ignore Leonin Arbiter's effect is a special action. Any player may take this special action any time he or she has priority. It doesn't use the stack and can't be responded to.

 
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If i have several cards suspended and they all have the last time counter removed on the same upkeep do i get to chose in which they are played? Like i would have dragonstorm as the last one played obviously.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by mattw:
If i have several cards suspended and they all have the last time counter removed on the same upkeep do i get to chose in which they are played? Like i would have dragonstorm as the last one played obviously.

You control all the "remove time counter" triggers, so you get to choose how they go on the stack. So yes, you will get to choose the order they are cast.

 
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If my opponent plays Malaren of the Mornsong and puts a Basilisk Collar on it, do they gain life from the lifelink when I lose it during my turn?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by DeMoNiC DuNcE:
If my opponent plays Malaren of the Mornsong and puts a Basilisk Collar on it, do they gain life from the lifelink when I lose it during my turn?

No. Malaren isn't dealing you any damage, it's making you lose life. This is an important distinction when it comes to lifelink.

 
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I'm rather sure this works but want to check before I do it in a tournament.

Can I through the breach a creature during the end step so that it will be sacrificed at the nextend step. For instance, breaching in Reya in order to use her upkeep ability, or Iona so I can basically Chant my opponent and attack for 7?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by NukeMoose:
I'm rather sure this works but want to check before I do it in a tournament.

Can I through the breach a creature during the end step so that it will be sacrificed at the nextend step. For instance, breaching in Reya in order to use her upkeep ability, or Iona so I can basically Chant my opponent and attack for 7?


Correct

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Just wondering if Glint Hawk Idol would keep a -1-1 infect counter after it returns to being a non creature artifact at end of turn?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by denholm:
Just wondering if Glint Hawk Idol would keep a -1-1 infect counter after it returns to being a non creature artifact at end of turn?

Yes

 
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If I have a Wild Pair and Might Sliver on the board. I cast a 2/2 sliver: do i search for a 2/2 or a 4/4 from the Wild Pair ability resolving? If the Board is the same and the 2/2 is in a graveyard can I bring it back into play if Reveillark resolves?

Another question: If a creature is evoked can it be sacrificed to pay some other sacrifice cost before its sacrificed as part of the evoke ability.

Thanks for your help.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by JackSpade:
If I have a Wild Pair and Might Sliver on the board. I cast a 2/2 sliver: do i search for a 2/2 or a 4/4 from the Wild Pair ability resolving? If the Board is the same and the 2/2 is in a graveyard can I bring it back into play if Reveillark resolves?

Another question: If a creature is evoked can it be sacrificed to pay some other sacrifice cost before its sacrificed as part of the evoke ability.

Thanks for your help.



1. With Wild Pair, you would search for a 4/4. (Edit: you don't necessarily have to search for a 4/4. It could be a 5/3 or a 2/6, etc.)

2. You can bring back the 2/2 with Reveillark.

3. Yes. When you evoke something, the sacrifice ablity goes on the stack, so if you have a Bloodthrone Vampire out, you can sacrifice the evoked creature to the Vampire before the evoke trigger resolves.

Hope this helps!


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Quest for the Holy Relic

Whenever you cast a creature spell, you may put a quest counter on Quest for the Holy Relic.

Remove five quest counters from Quest for the Holy Relic and sacrifice it: Search your library for an Equipment card, put it onto the battlefield, and attach it to a creature you control. Then shuffle your library.


If you let them search will you be able to remove the creature it attaches to with a lightning bolt in response or since it does not target does it attach automatically with no chance to respond?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by -Lunch_Box-:
Quest for the Holy Relic

Since it does not target it attaches automatically with no chance to respond.


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If I maelstrom pulse a token from a wurmcoil engine, does maelstrom pulse destroy both tokens since they're not exactly the same?
 
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Strangely enough, they both have the same name, so they will both be destroyed.

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After reading the response about Emrakul, I have a related question.

I have 5 cards in my g/y and my opponent uses Keening Stone. The 3rd card is my Gaea's Blessing. Do I finish milling the other two first, or does Blessing go off right away, causing me to shuffle the g/y and library, and then I have to continue and mill the other two?

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quote:
Originally posted by Jazaray:
After reading the response about Emrakul, I have a related question.

I have 5 cards in my g/y and my opponent uses Keening Stone. The 3rd card is my Gaea's Blessing. Do I finish milling the other two first, or does Blessing go off right away, causing me to shuffle the g/y and library, and then I have to continue and mill the other two?

Thanks,
Jazaray


Gaea's Blessing's last ability is a triggered ability. Keening Stone's ability will finish resolving completely and then the trigger will be placed on the stack.


[Edited 1 times, lastly by Meddling Pimp on October 07, 2010]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Meddling Pimp:
Gaea's Blessing's last ability is a triggered ability. Keening Stone's ability will finish resolving completely and then the trigger will be placed on the stack.

Would that also be true with other milling effects? Like traumatize, tome scour, whetstone, millstone...etc?


Thanks,
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quote:
Originally posted by Jazaray:
Would that also be true with other milling effects? Like traumatize, tome scour, whetstone, millstone...etc?


Thanks,
Jazaray


Yes. Gaea's Blessing can't trigger until a player would receive priority (it will go on the stack before that player actually does get priority). Players cannot receive priority during the resolution of a spell or ability, so the trigger has to wait until whatever it is finishes resolving.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by JoshSherman on October 07, 2010]

 
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Let's say I animated a planeswalker I have to a 5/5 creature and it has one loyalty counter.

Does it die when it takes 1 damage during combat phase or 5?

 

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