So in essence, both players recieving a loss of turn will just cancel out, making it Player B's turn.

Then Player A activates the extra turn and copies it to themself. From that point on, Player A can create an infinite loop of turns for themself by repeating the process to play Magosi, taking the 1st extra turn to skip and copy it to opponent, and taking the 2nd extra turn to make 2 new turns with new copies.

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Originally posted by DeMoNiC DuNcE:
Player A plays Magosi, the Waterveil.
Player A plays Rings of Brighthearth.
When activating the skip turn ability, Player A copies it and declares the copy target to Player B. This is possible right?

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Originally posted by CubFan81:
This was the gist of the new combat rules changes. Combat damage no longer uses the stack and happens all at once. He cannot have the "Forest" deal their damage before the Ambush Commander and then sacrifice them to pump the Commander.

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Originally posted by sagabegin:
3 questions:
1. Can stifle counter the ability storm?
2. If wheel of sun and moon enchants a player and that player is hit by grindstone/painters servsnt, is that a draw? Or would the entire library grind to the yard and then be put on the bottom?
3. If unearth is stifled, is it removed from the game?

Thanks guys.

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1. Yes. Storm is a triggered ability of the spell. When the spell goes on the stack, the storm trigger is placed above the original spell. If that trigger resolves, then you do what it says. But since it is a triggered ability, it can be Stifled, Trickbound or Voidslimed.

2. That one's tricky. I think I know the answer, but I'm not 100%. I think I've answered it before actually... guess I don't remember. Here's some more info.

3. When you activate an ability, you pay its cost (everything before the colon) and put the ability on the stack. If the ability is countered, nothing that is behind the colon happens. Therefore, the card stays put in the graveyard.

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Originally posted by Tab:
If I wanted to cast careful consideration on my turn, but still discard 3, can I do so during my combat phase even if I have no creatures?

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Yes. The combat phase happens whether you use it or not. Just be sure to announce that you wish to move to the combat step, because without any creatures on the board, it can be construed as implied that you are skipping it.

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Originally posted by sagabegin:

2. If wheel of sun and moon enchants a player and that player is hit by grindstone/painters servsnt, is that a draw? Or would the entire library grind to the yard and then be put on the bottom?

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714.4. If a loop contains only mandatory actions, the game ends in a draw. (See rule 104.4b.)

Does Player A's hand ever return?

If multiple hands are removed from game, say during a multi player scenario, would any of the hands return?

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Originally posted by gauntsghost:
If you have activated Koth's ultimate, and then later turned a mountain into a 4/4 red elemental, is the "tap: ping target creature/player" ability of said mountain considered a red ability?

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The source would be red.

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Originally posted by Lemonjuice:
Player A Plays Bottled cloister, ends turn.
Player B begins turn, Player A's hand is removed from game.
Player B disenchants cloister.

Does Player A's hand ever return?

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No

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If multiple hands are removed from game, say during a multi player scenario, would any of the hands return?

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Originally posted by Drexus:
Can dragonbreath attach to emrakul from the yard?

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You have Necrotic Ooze on the battlefield, along with an untapped Plains, Mountain, and Forest. You have a Cylian Sunsinger in your graveyard. You play Necrotic Ooze's ability.

Is this correct?

Necrotic Ooze gets +3/+3 and other Necrotic Oozes on the battlefield get +3/+3. Cylian Sunsingers on the battlefield are not affected.

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Originally posted by yakusoku:
gcowsu made me think of an interesting card interaction.

You have Necrotic Ooze on the battlefield, along with an untapped Plains, Mountain, and Forest. You have a Cylian Sunsinger in your graveyard. You play Necrotic Ooze's ability.

Is this correct?

Necrotic Ooze gets +3/+3 and other Necrotic Oozes on the battlefield get +3/+3. Cylian Sunsingers on the battlefield are not affected.

Similarly, if you had a Quicksilver Elemental and a Cylian Sunsinger on the battlefield and you pay U so that Quicksilver Elemental gains the Cylian Sunsinger's ability and you pay UUU (for the RGW), would Quicksilver Elemental itself and other Quicksilver Elementals on the battlefield get +3/+3, while the Cylian Sunsinger is unaffected?

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Originally posted by Lemonjuice:
Thanks for the quick response Pimp, one last question regarding cloister; I have 2, or 3 cloisters in play...do I need to declare WHICH cloister is removing my hand at the beginning of each players upkeep?

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Originally posted by Meddling Pimp:
The source would be red.

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So the ability itself would get by emrakul's protection?

Thanks for uber quick replies. Post question, go to physics, leave physics, answer. I wish physics was this easy

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Originally posted by gauntsghost:
So the ability itself would get by emrakul's protection?

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Originally posted by trying2playagain:
I know this is kinda of a early question to ask.

well you be able to choose planeswalkers with the new card in som with the contagion clasp

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Yes, it's early to ask. Wait until the set FAQ comes out so that people will be able to give you an answer that will definitely be correct rather than making assumptions that may not be valid.

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Originally posted by trying2playagain:
I know this is kinda of a early question to ask.

well you be able to choose planeswalkers with the new card in som with the contagion clasp

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Yes, since Planeswalkers are permanents with loyalty counters, you may choose them for Proliferate.

The new mechanic descriptions are here:
http://wizards.com/magic/tcg/article.aspx?x=mtg/tcg/scarsofmirrodin/mechanics

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Originally posted by gauntsghost:
So the ability itself would get by emrakul's protection?

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Creature:
Double Strike
2/2

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Creature:
2/1

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Would the creature with Double Strike hit first like First Strike?

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Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
One ability I have always been confused about is "Double Strike" it reads: "(It deals both first-strike and regular combat damage.)". My question is does the creature have "First Strike" also?

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Double Strike
2/2

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2/1

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Would the creature with Double Strike hit first like First Strike?Thanks!

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Yes, that's what it means by "It deals both first strike and regular combat damage." It deals damage both when first strike damage is dealt and when normal damage is dealt. The 2/1 would die, the 2/2 first striker would live in the above scenario.

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