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Topic: Rulings Thread Part 47 (ALL rules-related questions go HERE!)
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Myy
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posted March 02, 2011 09:07 AM
         
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Originally posted by TimeBeing:
Yes that was right. It dies and regenerates and the five damage is removed.
the way you're wording it makes no sense.
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fluffycow
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posted March 02, 2011 09:58 AM
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Originally posted by Myy:
the way you're wording it makes no sense.
+1, it regenerates and survives to block again next turn.
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Ippon
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posted March 02, 2011 04:46 PM
If Player B had sacrificed his Gore Vassal before Combat making it a 0/5 Wall of Tanglecord would it have died this way? Or does it have a regeneration shield for when it takes lethal later in the turn from combat damage?
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Zakman86
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posted March 02, 2011 04:53 PM
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Originally posted by Ippon:
If Player B had sacrificed his Gore Vassal before Combat making it a 0/5 Wall of Tanglecord would it have died this way? Or does it have a regeneration shield for when it takes lethal later in the turn from combat damage?
The latter.
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saintjust21
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posted March 03, 2011 10:35 AM
if i activate Koth's first ability to make one of my lands a 4/4, then my opponent takes it with treachery or any other "gan control of target creature" do they retain it after my turn is over? and if so does it revert to being just a land? edit: thanks!
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Bugger
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posted March 03, 2011 10:46 AM
Does Vigean Hydropon work with Persist creatures?Say if I have a Kitchen Finks in play, block a larger creature and it dies. Persist triggers and brings it back into play, can I use the Hydropon's graft to give it a counter (which then cancels out the -1/-1 counter, leaving it clean for persist again)? Thx __________________
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Meddling Pimp
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posted March 03, 2011 10:57 AM
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Originally posted by saintjust21:
if i activate Koth's first ability to make one of my lands a 4/4, then my opponent takes it with treachery or any other "gan control of target creature" do they retain it after my turn is over? and if so does it revert to being just a land?
Treachery, being an "Enchant Creature" aura, will "fall off" to the graveyard once the permanent is no longer a creature. If they use something like Dominate, the control effect would not stop when the permanent is no longer a creature.
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Originally posted by Bugger:
Does Vigean Hydropon work with Persist creatures?Say if I have a Kitchen Finks in play, block a larger creature and it dies. Persist triggers and brings it back into play, can I use the Hydropon's graft to give it a counter (which then cancels out the -1/-1 counter, leaving it clean for persist again)? Thx
Yes. The finks would enter with the -1/-1, triggering graft. When you move the +1/+1 counter, state based actions will cancel them out.
[Edited 2 times, lastly by Meddling Pimp on March 03, 2011]
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fluffycow
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posted March 06, 2011 08:51 PM
1. If I have a vesuvan shapeshifter morphed, then I unmorph it into a creature like a voice of all set to black, will my shapeshifter have pro black?2. If I am at 0 because of abyssal persecutor and I attack with my hugh trampling creature that kills my opponent and the persecutor, would the game be a draw? 3. If I have a necrotic ooze in play with a callous oppressor in the yard, would there be a restriction on what I can steal with the ooze?
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DeMoNiC DuNcE
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posted March 07, 2011 07:20 AM
My opponent has Opalescence, Enchanted Evening, and Aura Fracture on the field. Since my lands become enchantments in addition to their other type, and become a 0/0 and die when they hit play, can I draw mana in response?Question 2, can he sacrifice his lands to Aura Fracture when they hit play before they die?
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Goaswerfraiejen
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posted March 07, 2011 09:10 AM
So... if a Gilded Drake steals away a creature with equipment attached to it, does the Drake caster now have control of the equipment, or can the player whose creature was stolen just re-equip another creature as he or she pleases?EDIT: Sorry, couldn't get the card tag to work. Must be Chrome.  __________________
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JoshSherman
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posted March 07, 2011 10:26 AM
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Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:
So... if a Gilded Drake steals away a creature with equipment attached to it, does the Drake caster now have control of the equipment, or can the player whose creature was stolen just re-equip another creature as he or she pleases?EDIT: Sorry, couldn't get the card tag to work. Must be Chrome.
The drake's caster does not gain control of the equipment. It's controller can move the equipment whenever s/he is legally able to.
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orcishartillery
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posted March 07, 2011 11:44 AM
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Originally posted by fluffycow:
1. If I have a vesuvan shapeshifter morphed, then I unmorph it into a creature like a voice of all set to black, will my shapeshifter have pro black?
No. The Vesuvan Shapeshifter did not have a color chosen for the "As ~this~ enters the battlefield, choose a color." ability.quote:
2. If I am at 0 because of abyssal persecutor and I attack with my hugh trampling creature that kills my opponent and the persecutor, would the game be a draw?
No, you would win. After combat damage is dealt, state-based actions are checked. Three state-based actions would happen simultaneously: your opponent loses the games, you lose the game, and Abyssal Persecutor is destroyed. Abyssal Persecutor prevents you from losing the game; only the other two actions happen.(In a multi-player game, state-based actions would be checked again, and then you would lose.) quote:
3. If I have a necrotic ooze in play with a callous oppressor in the yard, would there be a restriction on what I can steal with the ooze?
No. There is no chosen creature type, so there is no restriction.
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orcishartillery
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posted March 07, 2011 12:03 PM
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Originally posted by DeMoNiC DuNcE:
My opponent has Opalescence, Enchanted Evening, and Aura Fracture on the field. Since my lands become enchantments in addition to their other type, and become a 0/0 and die when they hit play, can I draw mana in response?Question 2, can he sacrifice his lands to Aura Fracture when they hit play before they die?
No and no. The land is put into its owner's graveyard as a state-based effect before either player gets priority.
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fluffycow
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posted March 07, 2011 12:31 PM
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Originally posted by orcishartillery:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by fluffycow:
1. If I have a vesuvan shapeshifter morphed, then I unmorph it into a creature like a voice of all set to black, will my shapeshifter have pro black?
No. The Vesuvan Shapeshifter did not have a color chosen for the "As ~this~ enters the battlefield, choose a color." ability.quote:
2. If I am at 0 because of abyssal persecutor and I attack with my hugh trampling creature that kills my opponent and the persecutor, would the game be a draw?
No, you would win. After combat damage is dealt, state-based actions are checked. Three state-based actions would happen simultaneously: your opponent loses the games, you lose the game, and Abyssal Persecutor is destroyed. Abyssal Persecutor prevents you from losing the game; only the other two actions happen.(In a multi-player game, state-based actions would be checked again, and then you would lose.) quote:
3. If I have a necrotic ooze in play with a callous oppressor in the yard, would there be a restriction on what I can steal with the ooze?
No. There is no chosen creature type, so there is no restriction.[/QUOTE]thanks
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TomB999
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posted March 08, 2011 05:35 AM
When a land becomes a 5/5 artifact from Tezzeret, AOB, is it still a land?
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orcishartillery
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posted March 08, 2011 09:36 AM
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Originally posted by TomB999:
When a land becomes a 5/5 artifact from Tezzeret, AOB, is it still a land?
Yes, the land will retain all its original types.Note that the land must already be an artifact to be changed into an artifact creature by Tezzeret.
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TimeBeing
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posted March 08, 2011 10:48 AM
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Originally posted by orcishartillery:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by TomB999:
When a land becomes a 5/5 artifact from Tezzeret, AOB, is it still a land?
Yes, the land will retain all its original types.Note that the land must already be an artifact to be changed into an artifact creature by Tezzeret.[/QUOTE] And once it's a creature it can't tap for mana the turn it came into play.
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farsk8dutch
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posted March 08, 2011 12:22 PM
Are you allowed to have preexisting notes to refer to during a sanctioned tournament. Example: notes that remind what cards to sideboard against particular match-ups.
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Meddling Pimp
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posted March 08, 2011 01:13 PM
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Originally posted by farsk8dutch:
Are you allowed to have preexisting notes to refer to during a sanctioned tournament. Example: notes that remind what cards to sideboard against particular match-ups.
Yes, but you can only look at those notes between games. Looking at them during a game will get you a a match loss for Outside Assistance.
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-Lunch_Box-
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posted March 09, 2011 08:07 AM
If you have a creature equipped with Mortar Pod and Basilisk Collar would that creature have Death Touch when you sacrifice it to Mortarpod or would the sacrifice make Basilisk Collar not be equipped before damage is delt?Mortarpod
Equipped creature gets +0/+1 and has "Sacrifice this creature: This creature deals 1 damage to target creature or player." Basilisk Collar
Equipped creature has deathtouch and lifelink.
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thror
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posted March 09, 2011 12:24 PM
Yes, it would have both lifelink and deathtouch. The creature is dealing the damage, and at the time you sac it, it has those abilities.__________________
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yakusoku
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posted March 10, 2011 01:42 PM
There seems to be some confusion over the V5CB thread, so I wanted to double check:If Show and Tell is cast and its controller chooses a creature and an opponent chooses an Aura, can the opponent attach the Aura to the creature? I think that rule 303.4f applies here, but I'm not 100% sure on how it does. I believe that the creature is entering the battlefield at the same time as the Aura, so actually cannot be chosen as something to which the Aura can attach. quote:
Comprehensive Rules:
303.4f If an Aura is entering the battlefield under a player's control by any means other than by resolving as an Aura spell, and the effect putting it onto the battlefield doesn't specify the object or player the Aura will enchant, that player chooses what it will enchant as the Aura enters the battlefield. The player must choose a legal object or player according to the Aura's enchant ability and any other applicable effects.
As the Aura enters the battlefield, the creature that Show and Tell's controller chose is not yet on the battlefield and should not be something that his opponent can choose, correct?
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orcishartillery
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posted March 10, 2011 01:57 PM
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Originally posted by yakusoku:
As the Aura enters the battlefield, the creature that Show and Tell's controller chose is not yet on the battlefield and should not be something that his opponent can choose, correct?
That is correct.
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ScottyStyles
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posted March 13, 2011 01:18 AM
Goofy timing question.Sharuum the Hegemon + Sculpting Steel Sharuum comes in, targets dead Steel. Steel comes in as a copy of Sharuum. Obviously, both are going to die as a SBE, but when is the copied Sharuum's "Bring an artifact back" ability going to have to target? Will the original Sharuum be in the GY to be targetable, or will the Steel have to target something else?
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caquaa
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posted March 13, 2011 01:27 AM
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Originally posted by ScottyStyles:
Goofy timing question.Sharuum the Hegemon + Sculpting Steel Sharuum comes in, targets dead Steel. Steel comes in as a copy of Sharuum. Obviously, both are going to die as a SBE, but when is the copied Sharuum's "Bring an artifact back" ability going to have to target? Will the original Sharuum be in the GY to be targetable, or will the Steel have to target something else?
state based actions happen placing the legends in the graveyard, then things waiting to be placed on the stack get to be placed on the stack right before someone gets priority where shruum is in the graveyard already and can be targeted by the copied shruum ability. The sculpting steel, shruum, X combo does work.
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