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Can I Redirect my opponent's Harrow to myself?
 
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quote:
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Can I Redirect my opponent's Harrow to myself?

No, there is no targeting to redirect. If Harrow said "Target player sacrafices a land and then searches for two land ..." then you could do so.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by darius vitrosoo:
my opponent casts summoning trap (i know he can hit emerakul) i have a gather specimens in hand when can i cast? after he choses his creature of must i cast in response to summon trap which allows him to chose nobody. i am fine with gather becoming a counterspell at this point, as long as he doesn't go oops emakul.

You must cast Gather Specimens in response to Summoning Trap. Once Summoning Trap begins resolving, you won't get priority again until after it has finished resolving.
 
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If I equip a Sword of Body and Mind to a Kor Duelist, does the Sword of Body and Mind trigger twice due to the double strike doing first strike damage first?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by DeMoNiC DuNcE:
If I equip a Sword of Body and Mind to a Kor Duelist, does the Sword of Body and Mind trigger twice due to the double strike doing first strike damage first?

Assuming that both the first strike damage and regular damage are dealt to the player then the effects will trigger twice (once for each time that damage is dealt).

 
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I know there where some rule changes when M10 happened, My question is can I still pump up a monster with cards like Giant Growth if my opponent chooses not to block it?

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quote:
Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
I know there where some rule changes when M10 happened, My question is can I still pump up a monster with cards like Giant Growth if my opponent chooses not to block it?


Absolutely. Each player receives priority after blockers are declared before damage happens. There's just no "damage on the stack" tricks (like Mogg Fanatic killing a 2/2) anymore.

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I have a few questions about some games that happened earlier tonight.

First, can Icy Manipulator be used to tap a land in response to casting a spell when the land is needed for the mana cost of the spell?

Second, you can't tap a creature with Icy Manipulator or other tap effects in response to an attack declaration right? You have to do it before the attack step I thought.

Third, someone has Lure/Venom on a 1/1 and attacks me. I have to block with my Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. He still dies since his protection is just from spells, right?

Last, Lure/Venom will still work even if a Fog is played right?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by taitai_bewd:
I have a few questions about some games that happened earlier tonight.

First, can Icy Manipulator be used to tap a land in response to casting a spell when the land is needed for the mana cost of the spell?

Second, you can't tap a creature with Icy Manipulator or other tap effects in response to an attack declaration right? You have to do it before the attack step I thought.

Third, someone has Lure/Venom on a 1/1 and attacks me. I have to block with my Emrakul, the Aeons Torn. He still dies since his protection is just from spells, right?

Last, Lure/Venom will still work even if a Fog is played right?


- Nope

- Yes/No. You can tap it before they declare attackers, in the 'declare attackers step'.

- Yep, the FSM is dead.

- No. Venom triggers on combat damage being successfully resolved.

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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.C:

- Yes/No. You can tap it before they declare attackers, in the 'declare attackers step'.


Not quite. The last time to tap a creature before it attacks you is the Beginning of Combat step. Once they get to declare attackers, it is too late. The first thing done in Declare Attackers step is, well, declare attackers. Then each player gets priority, and at this point stuff is already tapped and attacking.

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quote:
Originally posted by taitai_bewd:
First, can Icy Manipulator be used to tap a land in response to casting a spell when the land is needed for the mana cost of the spell?

Mana abilities and paying costs can't be responded to. You can only activate Manipulator when you have priority. He's casting a spell when he has priority and it passes back to you after it goes on the stack. The adding of mana is not put on the stack.

Second, you can't tap a creature with Icy Manipulator or other tap effects in response to an attack declaration right? You have to do it before the attack step I thought.

The attack phase is comprised of multiple steps. It starts with the beginning of combat step, where players can cast spells/activate abilities. That is your last chance to use Manipulator. After that is the declare attackers step, and you can't respond to attackers being declared (you can't use Manipulator in the delcare attackers step).


edit: good thing i take so long typing.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Sovarius on February 07, 2011]

 
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Can Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas and Tezzeret, the Seeker be in play at the same time?
Also, when Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas makes an artifact 5/5 does it keeps its abilities? Like Ornithopter becomes a 5/5 flying creature and one with first strike would be 5/5 first strike and so on?

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quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Can Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas and Tezzeret, the Seeker be in play at the same time?
Also, when Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas makes an artifact 5/5 does it keeps its abilities? Like Ornithopter becomes a 5/5 flying creature and one with first strike would be 5/5 first strike and so on?

~MM


No and Si

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Myy on February 08, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Mr.C:

- No. Venom triggers on combat damage being successfully resolved.



Yes this works, Venom isn't DeathTouch. Venom just cares that they are blocked.

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How does damage assigning work when I attack with a Wurmcoil Engine and my opponent blocks with a 6/7 Tarmogoyf and a Grizzly Bears.

Does my Wurmcoil survive combat? Can I kill both creatures? How would the assiging work, exactly?

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You, as the attacker, decide the order in which the blockers are dealt damage. You must deal lethal damage to the first creature before you can deal damage to the next one in order. The M11 update made 1 point of 'deathtouch damage' lethal, so your wurmcoil can kill up to 6 blocking creatures by dealing 1 point to each of them. However, ALL creatures (unless the have first strike) deal damage at the same time. As such, wurmcoil will deal 6 between the bear+goyf, and will be dealt 8 from bear+goyf.

End result, everything died. This is the only result.

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Originally posted by thror:

End result, everything died. This is the only result.

You can assign all 6 to the goyf or bear in this example as well. You must assign a minimum of lethal. There are random situations where you might want something left alive.

 
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Right, I guess you could leave one of their dudes alive (no idea why you would want to), but your Wurmcoil is most certainly dead.

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If you use Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas's ability on an activated Inkmoth Nexus, does it remain a 5/5 creature after the Clean Up Step?

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quote:
Originally posted by Liq:
If you use Tezzeret, Agent of Bolas's ability on an activated Inkmoth Nexus, does it remain a 5/5 creature after the Clean Up Step?


Yes, it does. From #mtgrules:

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<LaurieChe> to put it another way, when Inkmoth's effect ends in the Cleanup step, that doesn't actively make it a noncreature; it just stops making it a creature.
<LaurieChe> it won't override other effects

In order to get a 5/5 flying infect dude again on your next turn, you will need to activate the Nexus, then target it with Tezz's ability again.

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So I've been out of competitve play for some time.
There us to be a time when you could attack with X creatures and you opponent blocked with x-1 creatures. you could then respond with a giant growth type spell to inflict more damage with the unblocked creature. Does this still work?
I want to use Tainted Strike this way, so does it work still?

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quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
So I've been out of competitve play for some time.
There us to be a time when you could attack with X creatures and you opponent blocked with x-1 creatures. you could then respond with a giant growth type spell to inflict more damage. Does this still work?
I want to use Tainted Strike this way, so does it work still?

~MM


Yes.

1. Declare Attackers
2. Declare Blockers
3. Combat Damage

After Blockers are declared, there's a window where you can play spells and abilities.

 
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regeneration ... can i regenerate before something is about to be destroyed... ie my friend has 5 mana ... he taps 2 to regen troll ascetic and then 3 to pop deed. the tournament player in me wants to be like hahahahah no but since i know him im like okay cool. but i just want to know.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Philip papas:
regeneration ... can i regenerate before something is about to be destroyed... ie my friend has 5 mana ... he taps 2 to regen troll ascetic and then 3 to pop deed. the tournament player in me wants to be like hahahahah no but since i know him im like okay cool. but i just want to know.

You can activate regenration whenever you want. It's basically a regeneration shield that lasts until end of turn or /if it would be destroyed/.
And you /have/ to activate regeneration before it's destroyed. You can't 'in response' to a creature dying. You could Deed, then in response regen. Or regen; let it resolve. Then Deed.

 
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okay dookie thanks
 

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