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Originally posted by frankenskid:
I was just curious if someone could help me out with the comes into play at the same time everything sees everything else rule. Like allies and valakut with scapeshift. I have people asking me if it works, and when I say yes, they want to know how, and I can't find it.

Many thanks!

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Triggers can't be placed on the stack while a spell or ability is resolving. If multiple items are placed onto the battlefield at the same time (via Primeval Titan, for example), they ETB, then any ETB triggers go on the stack, then State-based effects are checked, then the active player receives priority with the triggers on the stack.

For Valakut specifically (regarding Primeval Titan), the mountains are on the battlefield before Valakut's trigger can be placed on the stack. Valakut will check both potential triggers to see if they meet the condition (5 or more mountains in play), and if you have five or more mountains when the triggers would go on the stack, you get both triggers. There was no point in the game in this scenario that you only had four mountains in play.

edit: The same idea applies to Scapeshift.

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Originally posted by JoshSherman:
Triggers can't be placed on the stack while a spell or ability is resolving. If multiple items are placed onto the battlefield at the same time (via Primeval Titan, for example), they ETB, then any ETB triggers go on the stack, then State-based effects are checked, then the active player receives priority with the triggers on the stack.

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Originally posted by JoshSherman:
Triggers can't be placed on the stack while a spell or ability is resolving. If multiple items are placed onto the battlefield at the same time (via Primeval Titan, for example), they ETB, then any ETB triggers go on the stack, then State-based effects are checked, then the active player receives priority with the triggers on the stack.

For Valakut specifically (regarding Primeval Titan), the mountains are on the battlefield before Valakut's trigger can be placed on the stack. Valakut will check both potential triggers to see if they meet the condition (5 or more mountains in play), and if you have five or more mountains when the triggers would go on the stack, you get both triggers. There was no point in the game in this scenario that you only had four mountains in play.

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An ability triggering and an ability being put on the stack happen separately. The ability triggers at the time the event occurs, e.g. while the Scapeshift is resolving. The ability is put on the stack the next time a player would receive priority.

If I play WGD deck in vintage and have WGD in the grave with a necrotic ooze on the field with animate dead enchanted on it, I assume the combo will still trigger, but I need to make sure.

You cast Infernal Tutor - it goes on the stack.
Counterbalance triggers, and the trigger goes on the stack on top of Infernal Tutor.
Now you simply wait until the Counterbalance trigger resolves.
-- If it counters your Tutor, move on.
-- If it doesn't, you can then respond to the Tutor by saccing the Lion's Eye Diamond

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
If I use Koth of the Hammer's ultimate twice, will mountains I tap to do damage do 1 or 2 damage each?

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Originally posted by Schwingzilla:
If I'm at one, my opponent attacks with two small creatures, and I block with a Wurmcoil Engine, or any other creature with lifelink, do I die?

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Main phase 1, I mark of mutiny my opponents primeval titan, and I have 2 bloodghasts in graveyard and my only creature is bloodthrone vampire. Attack phase, I swing with primeval and bloodthrone vampire, then primevals effect happens, I pull two lands and take my bloodghasts out of the graveyard.

Now two questions

1) Can I swing with the bloodghasts that just got out the graveyard due to primevals effect during this attack phase if they have haste?(opponent under 10 life)

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Originally posted by Choshu:

1) Can I swing with the bloodghasts that just got out the graveyard due to primevals effect during this attack phase if they have haste?(opponent under 10 life)

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Nope. Attackers have already been declared.

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Originally posted by Choshu:

2)After my opponent declares blockers, can I sac the bloodghasts and buff my bloodthrone vamp if shes not blocked and deal 6 damage to the opponent, or do I have to pump before I attack?

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Originally posted by Myy:
Nope. Attackers have already been declared.

yep, this is allowed. All this is done before damage is dealt.

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Originally posted by Choshu:
Lets say the primeval titan that I took control of that turn also swung, but I end up sac'ing him to buff my bloodthrone vampire after they have declared no blockers, would the +6 from primeval also damage the player?

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If you sac it during the Declare Blockers step (after blockers are declared and before damage) then no it will not. He's not there anymore when damage rolls around.

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Originally posted by Meddling Pimp:

If they declare no blockers, just let the titan punch the opponent and then sac him afterward.

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Clarification: ALL combat damage is dealt at once. You can either hit them with titan and whatever the current bloodthrone vampire is, or you can sac titan to pump bloodthrone before damage happens.

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Originally posted by jaromirjagr:
So Im playing a two headed EDH/commander game.my opponent attacks with his serra angel and has battlegrace angel in play not attacking.His partner attacks with akroma angel of rath as well.Does my opponent with the battlegrace angel get the lifelink/exalted bonus?

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