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711.1a Multiple player-controlling effects that affect the same player overwrite each other. The last one to be created is the one that works.

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1) when i use quicksilver gargantum and myr propergator do i make 7/7 clones?

2) if a player getting dealt infect damage has a pariah on the feild is the damage dealt to the creature as -1/-1?

3) can venser's emblem be doubled?

4) ley line of anticaption is needed here, but if i make my gideon a creature, and my opponnet mind controls it in respone is it still a creature at end of turn or does mind control re-check and fall off?

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Originally posted by darius vitrosoo:
actually i think player A says " f-this" and walks out.

1) when i use quicksilver gargantum and myr propergator do i make 7/7 clones?

Yes. They will be 7/7 Myr Propagators which will have the ability "3,T: Put a token that's a copy of *this* onto the battlefield." They will also be 7/7 creatures.

2) if a player getting dealt infect damage has a pariah on the feild is the damage dealt to the creature as -1/-1?

Yes. The reminder text for infect covers this.

3) can venser's emblem be doubled?

Yes. If you have two Venser Emblems, they will both trigger when you cast a spell.

4) ley line of anticaption is needed here, but if i make my gideon a creature, and my opponnet mind controls it in respone is it still a creature at end of turn or does mind control re-check and fall off?

Yes it will.

5 if i inresponse naturalize the leyline does mind control fizzle cause of improper timing?

No, because the spell has already been cast.

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4) ley line of anticaption is needed here, but if i make my gideon a creature, and my opponnet mind controls it in respone is it still a creature at end of turn or does mind control re-check and fall off?[/B]

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Originally posted by bertrand:
Uh, your opponent can't Mind Control Gideon in response to his 0 ability as he isn't a creature at that time..

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Originally posted by airwalk:
Do +1/+1 counters stay on artifact/enchantment/land creatures once they turn back into their respective types? (Faerie Conclave, Opalescense, artifacts turned into creatues by Karn).

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Yes, counters of any type stay on permanents, even if they dont make sense, until something says otherwise. If you somehow got loyalty counters on a mutavault, that would be just fine, even though you couldn't actually do anything with them.

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Originally posted by thror:
Yes, counters of any type stay on permanents, even if they dont make sense, until something says otherwise. If you somehow got loyalty counters on a mutavault, that would be just fine, even though you couldn't actually do anything with them.

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My guess is that the last one to enter play would supercede the other, is this correct?

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Originally posted by keywacat:
What would happen if I have Everlasting Torment and Swans of Brynn Argoll in play simultaneously?

My guess is that the last one to enter play would supercede the other, is this correct?

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Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
If I make creatures x/x until end of turn with Mirror Entity, do they lose all of their other abilities? IE flying or trample or protection from red etc...

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Player A controls Mimic Vat. Player B controls Kozilek, Butcher of Truths. On Player B's turn, Kozilek is destroyed. Can Kozilek end up imprinted on Vat?

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Originally posted by iccarus:
This came up in an EDH game: Someone has a Vesuva that came in to play as a copy of a forest. They then play an Extraplanar Lens, choosing to imprint the Forest/Vesuva. Which lands will the lens actually double the mana for? Forests or other copies of Vesuva (which inherently will do nothing, since Vesuva has no mana ability on its own)

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Player A controls Mimic Vat. Player B controls Kozilek, Butcher of Truths. On Player B's turn, Kozilek is destroyed. Can Kozilek end up imprinted on Vat?

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1. Vesuva copies the name of the card, so it will tap for an additional green mana, in addition to all other Forests.

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1. Vesuva copies the name of the card, so it will tap for an additional green mana, in addition to all other Forests.

2. When Kozilek is goes to the graveyard, its triggered ability will go on the stack, and then the Mimic Vat's ability will trigger (APNAP order). So the Mimic Vat's ability will be the first to resolve, at which point Player A can choose to imprint Kozilek.

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Perhaps I need to clarify question 1. The player with the lens chooses to imprint the Vesuva that came in to play as a forest. Will it still be a forest when it's imprinted, or will it be a Vesuva?

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Originally posted by iccarus:
Perhaps I need to clarify question 1. The player with the lens chooses to imprint the Vesuva that came in to play as a forest. Will it still be a forest when it's imprinted, or will it be a Vesuva?

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It will be a Vesuva. When it changes zones it loses the copy affect.

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Thank you. That's what I thought.

Attackers phase - my opponent has myr battlesphere+myr tokens(granted from myr battlesphere coming onto the battlefield last turn) and 1 myr galvanizer.

So onto the question
Can my opponent swing with myr battlesphere, tap the 4 myr tokens for his effect(+4 to myr battlesphere and 4 damage to opponent), then use myr galvanizer to untap the tokens, and then declare attack with the tokens, all in the same attacking phase?

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Originally posted by Choshu:
Question about a specific scenario.

Attackers phase - my opponent has myr battlesphere+myr tokens(granted from myr battlesphere coming onto the battlefield last turn) and 1 myr galvanizer.

So onto the question
Can my opponent swing with myr battlesphere, tap the 4 myr tokens for his effect(+4 to myr battlesphere and 4 damage to opponent), then use myr galvanizer to untap the tokens, and then declare attack with the tokens, all in the same attacking phase?

My friend said hes doing it all at once so its legit. But I dont think you can declare attackers twice in one go. halp?

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No. In the Declare Attackers step, you must immediately declare all attackers at once.

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Originally posted by Choshu:
Okay so pretty much he can choose to tap myrs for myr battlespheres ability, or he can tap myrs+battlesphere to attack at once?

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Originally posted by Choshu:
Question about a specific scenario.

Attackers phase - my opponent has myr battlesphere+myr tokens(granted from myr battlesphere coming onto the battlefield last turn) and 1 myr galvanizer.

So onto the question
Can my opponent swing with myr battlesphere, tap the 4 myr tokens for his effect(+4 to myr battlesphere and 4 damage to opponent), then use myr galvanizer to untap the tokens, and then declare attack with the tokens, all in the same attacking phase?

My friend said hes doing it all at once so its legit. But I dont think you can declare attackers twice in one go. halp?

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Meddling pimp missed something when he gave you his (incorrect) explanation. Your opponent ALSO has a myr galvanizer in play. So what he can do is (Step1) Declare battlesphere+4 tokens as attackers. Then (step2) Battlesphere's trigger goes on the stack. (Step3) He responds to this by activating Galvanizer, which untaps the 4 myr tokens. (Step4) When battlespheres ability resolves, he can now tap the 4 untapped but still attacking tokens to that ability.

Your opponent had the right result in the wrong order, basically.
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I just had a question, can I play Fetch Lands like Arid Mesa in a Mono-Colored EDH deck as long as I'm searching for the correct basic land that corresponds with my Commander?

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Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
(I'm new to EDH..)

I just had a question, can I play Fetch Lands like Arid Mesa in a Mono-Colored EDH deck as long as I'm searching for the correct basic land that corresponds with my Commander?

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