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mattw
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posted July 12, 2011 07:28 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for mattw Click Here to Email mattw Send a private message to mattw Click to send mattw an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View mattw's Have/Want ListView mattw's Have/Want List
so that personal sanctuary won't work with necropotence?
 
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posted July 12, 2011 07:48 AM   Click Here to See the Profile for hilikuS Click Here to Email hilikuS Send a private message to hilikuS Click to send hilikuS an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View hilikuS's Trade Auction or SaleView hilikuS's Trade Auction or Sale
quote:
Originally posted by joz:
Why thrun?

Gladecover Scout, Sacred Wolf, are better options.

Since you can attack with them on the turn you toss Angelic Destiny onto them.


Thrun seems fine in the deck. I think Grand Abolisher might be the key to the whole thing though. Trying to build this deck myself.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by joz:
Why thrun?

Gladecover Scout, Sacred Wolf, are better options.

Since you can attack with them on the turn you toss Angelic Destiny onto them.


Because you can't attack with Thrun when you toss Angelic Destiny onto him? Unless you're implying a curve of Scout on turn one and Destiny on turn 4 in which case you're right. Then again, when you don't have Destiny the Scout and Wolf are pretty awful.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by CubFan81:
Because you can't attack with Thrun when you toss Angelic Destiny onto him? Unless you're implying a curve of Scout on turn one and Destiny on turn 4 in which case you're right. Then again, when you don't have Destiny the Scout and Wolf are pretty awful.

I've been trying to come up with ideas for other things to attach. Equipment seems decent, but Spirit Mantle seems pretty cool too. Turns the wolf into a 4/2 unblockable, untargetable guy. Not too shabby.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by hilikuS:
I've been trying to come up with ideas for other things to attach. Equipment seems decent, but Spirit Mantle seems pretty cool too. Turns the wolf into a 4/2 unblockable, untargetable guy. Not too shabby.


it's such a damn shame that Kor Spiritdancer is rotating with soul sisters falling apart post-rotation, I was hoping I could adopt g/w auras as my tier 2ish pet deck. Mesa Enchantress is bleh.

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Well thrun actually can attack the turn you put destiny on him. Unless you plan on ramping to 8 mana and casting them both that turn

Spirit mantle is ridiculous. I would love to build an enchanty deck with that and destiny but without the totem armors it seems not as coool. i reallylike the totem armor effect.

would they ever print them in a core set? that wouldn't be too off-flavor. it's not like metalcraft or anything. i mean, they brought back bloodthirst. that never seemed too "block specific" feeling.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
it's such a damn shame that Kor Spiritdancer is rotating with soul sisters falling apart post-rotation, I was hoping I could adopt g/w auras as my tier 2ish pet deck. Mesa Enchantress is bleh.


Gotta agree on the Mesa Enchantress. She was way cool back in Time Spiral block though. I still have some foil PC ones in my old deck.

I think the biggest problem with her in the deck, is that if they got removal, it's going to get eaten by her. Normally I'd be sorta ok with that, but most of my other guys are going to be untargetable, so I'm just making my opponent's removal useful at that point. I like the idea of trying to grab some virtual card advantage by rendering their spot removal useless, or close to it.

Used to love dropping a Privileged Position on MTGO and having my opponent reveal a hand full of spot removal with nothing to point it at.



[Edited 1 times, lastly by hilikuS on July 14, 2011]

 
Sovarius
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quote:
Originally posted by mattw:
so that personal sanctuary won't work with necropotence?

Necropotence is life payment, not damage.

 
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Anyone else think Master Thief's art is just an unused illustration for Higure the Still Wind?
 
Sovarius
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That's possible.
The art for Bloodthrone Vampire was originally intended (i believe) for Kalastria Highborn. The art on Bloodthrone is saved on the artist's website everywhere as KalastriaHighborn.

But yea he totally looks kamigawa.

 
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I have realized 2 cards not in 2012, and is relavent imo. baneslayer angel & lightning bolt. angel, om ok. maybe she's had her limelight, but bolt is the shiznet. incinerate is good imo, but comparable to lightning bolt. why? why wotc u do this?
 
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quote:
Originally posted by revenger:
I have realized 2 cards not in 2012, and is relavent imo. baneslayer angel & lightning bolt. angel, om ok. maybe she's had her limelight, but bolt is the shiznet. incinerate is good imo, but comparable to lightning bolt. why? why wotc u do this?

Where have you been man? No Bolt is old news.

The apology comes in the form of Goblin Grenade, Incinerate, Manabarbs, Grim Lavamancer, Chandra the Firebrand, and Chandra's Phoenix.

I'll take that bundle over bolt any day of the week.

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Yeah. that is a good apology. so this means red burns returns in full force? i just feel, idk, like receving a caffeine free soda pop. and sugar less no doubt! bolt instead of incinerate. now we r talking!
 
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quote:
Originally posted by revenger:
Yeah. that is a good apology. so this means red burns returns in full force? i just feel, idk, like receving a caffeine free soda pop. and sugar less no doubt! bolt instead of incinerate. now we r talking!

Yeah, but don't forget that M11 doesn't rotate until Innistrad comes in so really, there's this small window where you have Bolt AND Incinerate with Grim Lavamancer, Goblin Grenade, Staggershock, Searing Blaze, etc, etc.

 

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