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joz
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posted June 25, 2011 04:05 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for joz Click Here to Email joz Send a private message to joz Click to send joz an Instant MessageVisit joz's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
Dude, I'm 27 lol :P

And you play magic :P!

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So?

It's a game that I've grew up with and I still like it (wich is surprising after 17 years). It's like laughing at someone because he's in his late 20s and still play video games :/

Unless that's not what you were saying? :P

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
So?

It's a game that I've grew up with and I still like it (wich is surprising after 17 years). It's like laughing at someone because he's in his late 20s and still play video games :/

Unless that's not what you were saying? :P


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I'm 36 and still play magic...what's your point?

~MM

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quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
I'm 36 and still play magic...what's your point?

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZEdDMQZaCU

[Edited 1 times, lastly by sammyt125 on June 25, 2011]

 
joz
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quote:
Originally posted by sammyt125:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gZEdDMQZaCU

I personaly prefer being a Geek, to a nerd...

With that being said however, I'm fully looking forward to using the Chandra (if it is real) in a white/red aggro deck.

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A little while ago I was looking for a card that said target creature gets protection from color of your choice into eot. Well none in standard let you target your opponent. Stave off is a one mana answer to splinter twin!
 
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quote:
Originally posted by oneofchaos:
A little while ago I was looking for a card that said target creature gets protection from color of your choice into eot. Well none in standard let you target your opponent. Stave off is a one mana answer to splinter twin!

If we are just talking about Deceiver/Twin combo; the following 1 mana instants work to stop it:

Diminish (for one turn)
Galvanic Blast (metalcraft)
Gremlin Mine (technicaly needs two mana)
Dismember
Silence (on their upkeep to prevent Splinter Twin)
Soul's Attendant (they can burn it away, but you will never die from infinite 1/4s)
Spell Pierce (if they don't leave the mana open)
Stabbing Pain (stops it for one turn)
Unsommon (prevents it until they replay deceiver)
Vapor Snag (same as unsommon)
Vendetta
Vines of Vastwood (give it ...shroud?)


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quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
I'm 36 and still play magic...what's your point?

~MM


I'm 25 and I started long after my friend had quit when I was 18. I then proceeded to buy them out for dirt cheap and start off with an amazing collection.

 
joz
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Im 22...I remember opening a pack of beta and getting either Blessing or Blaze of Glory.. (its' been a while)
and I remember being 4 at that time and getting into magic because my older cousins were playing and "trying" to teach me, that contrary to my opinion Burrowing was not a good card.

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Humm.... I'm surprised that there's gonna be a ''new'' green Morphling... Thornling already exist. I'm hoping for:

Leafling (heh!) 3GG
G: Gains Hexproof.
G: Gains Trample.
1: Gains +1/-1.
1: Gains -1/+1.
1: Untaps.
3/3
Artist: Kev Walker with an actual ''split'' art like Torchling and Morphling

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Heresy19 on June 26, 2011]

 
joz
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Well, ordered a box, since i have the extra dough for once.

I usualy get a good box whenever I open my first box for a set, NPH being good boxes every time though I've only opened M11, NPH, and Zen though... And M11 was only good once and bad twice. NPH two nice boxes...so...hopefully m12 will be kind to me.

and now...I'm going to go look at houses for sale... >_<

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Gremlin Mine doesn't stop Deceiver Twin (up a couple posts).

I am surprised they are making another green 'ling, but i guess we deserve one after the last atrocity. Bad art, bad abilities, and for no apparent reason it was a 4/4.

Your example is off though. The 'lings have 3 colored ability, then the two colorless pump/nerf ones

 
joz
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quote:
Originally posted by Sovarius:
Gremlin Mine doesn't stop Deceiver Twin (up a couple posts).


oops, my bad. hasty misread.

scratch gremline mine..

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woah, Primordial Hydra looks like it could go out of control FAST with some mana accel
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/149

But it's probably not good enough for constructed. At least it wouldn't get bounced with Jace this time : D

 
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quote:
Originally posted by -PoX-:
woah, Primordial Hydra looks like it could go out of control FAST with some mana accel
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/149

But it's probably not good enough for constructed. At least it wouldn't get bounced with Jace this time : D


sigh...timmy card, and johny card...but no evasion or protection means its doom blade fodder.

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new figure of destiny is really good.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by is it fact or fiction:
new figure of destiny is really good.

The green ''Morphling''? He is good, but people won't actually use him until they ''found'' that he's that awesome ;P

2cc for a 2/2 that can be a 0/8, 2/2 flyer or 4/4 trampler, sign me up for a playset

 
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quote:
Originally posted by -PoX-:
woah, Primordial Hydra looks like it could go out of control FAST with some mana accel
http://www.wizards.com/Magic/Magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/149

But it's probably not good enough for constructed. At least it wouldn't get bounced with Jace this time : D


I. Love. It. I'll be trying it out in a deck, and if all else fails, it'll be fun as all hell in limited . So, after looking at the updated list, I'm happy to see Chandra being somewhat playable now.

Set looks pretty fun so far.

P.S. Why is red looking so sick so far? Shock, Lavamancer, Incinerate, Goblin Grenade, Chandra's Phoenix, and of course Infero Titan? Wow. Also, if I'm not mistaken, zendikar will still be legal, so you'll also have Goblin Guide, and all the other good crap red has so far.

Go RDW?

[Edited 3 times, lastly by Shadows on June 26, 2011]

 
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Skinshifter is indeed totally badass.

And that new mummy, that Pharaoh... there's got to be SOME way to abuse that. Maybe with Fauna Shaman?
The beauty is that you can chump their biggest guy and let a little one through and you still get to kill their best attacking creature.

 
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Skinshifter looks good on paper, but that is pretty much it. It forces you to have mana open each turn for it to be relevant, and hinders your spell casting greatly, especially on the first five turns.

Primordial Hydra is like a Mythic Scute Mob, which means it is still a Scute Mob.

Vengeful Pharaoh is like a bad No Mercy.

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Too bad Vengeful Pharaoh didn't cheat itself into play. I wouldn't mind bigger Ichorid.

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quote:
Originally posted by junichi:

Vengeful Pharaoh is like a bad No Mercy.

It's definitely a lot stronger since it costs nothing.
Scute mob is better than hydra.

And the green shapeshifter may or may not be good. Definitely alright in limited though.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by -PoX-:
It's definitely a lot stronger since it costs nothing.
Scute mob is better than hydra.

And the green shapeshifter may or may not be good. Definitely alright in limited though.


The card is not free. You need to have a useful discard outlet that doesn't die to a bolt to discard it.

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Skinshifter sucks. He has a can only be used once per turn clause. He is a good beat down card, 4/4 trampler attacking on turn 3, but any combat tricks will beat him.
 

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