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Goaswerfraiejen
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quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
Personal Sanctuary .... a step foward my Turbo Fog

It says "during YOUR turn" though.

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quote:
Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:
It says "during YOUR turn" though.


You've already been Ninja'ed twice ;P

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Heresy19 on June 28, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Solemn Simulacrum is back

*Happy dance*


 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Solemn Simulacrum is back

quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
*Happy dance*


I'm on the fence about the new art though, instead of Darth Vader he looks like C3PO. At least you'll be able to pick up a foil version for under $30 clams, although I'm not seeing pre-orders for foils at SCG..

http://mtgsalvation.com/magic-2012-m12-spoiler.html

 
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I'm more exited for Tutor Demon

7 mana for a 6/6 flying and tutor to hand?

WOW. First stop, Twanos's Coffin.
Next stop, the world!

mauahha!!

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There's also Fact or Fiction Sphinx!! Wonder what the rest of the cycle will look like.

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=120667&stc=1&d=1309325921

quote:
Originally posted by joz:
I'm more exited for Tutor Demon

7 mana for a 6/6 flying and tutor to hand?

WOW. First stop, Twanos's Coffin.
Next stop, the world!

mauahha!!


 
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quote:
Originally posted by totalkaoz:
There's also Fact or Fiction Sphinx!! Wonder what the rest of the cycle will look like.

http://forums.mtgsalvation.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=120667&stc=1&d=1309325921


Meh, paying 7 mana for fact or fiction faty without protection/evasion/shroud of any sort is a bad play, even in EDH.

Fact or Fiction is great, because it is an instant and because it only costs 4.

Paying sorcery speed and 7? No. bad bad bad.

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I didn't say it was good. I just think it's cool they designed a cycle of creatures this way. Neither of those two are constructed playable.

quote:
Originally posted by joz:
Meh, paying 7 mana for fact or fiction faty without protection/evasion/shroud of any sort is a bad play, even in EDH.

Fact or Fiction is great, because it is an instant and because it only costs 4.

Paying sorcery speed and 7? No. bad bad bad.



 
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actualy, both are since they are printing a cheater, Quicksilver Amulet, in M12.

Turn 1-3 ramp, amulet, fatty.

but doubtfull anyway.

Quicksilver Amulet is going to see play with Eldrazi, and Blightsteel.

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Just when I thought M12 was going to provide me with nothing, they print a Demonic Tutor on a 5/5. Time to free up another slot.

And Quicksilver Amulet will see no play.
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hmm buried ruin + crucible of worlds?

The ruin gets back the crucible and the crucible gets back the ruin...

 
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Ughh the m10 duals are back.
I had been hoping they would not include that crap again.
Will anyone be happy to see them as their rare?

Should have brought back the shocks!!!

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Havoc Demon:
Just when I thought M12 was going to provide me with nothing, they print a Demonic Tutor on a 5/5. Time to free up another slot.

And Quicksilver Amulet will see no play.


Sarnath'd big time. Should wake up before posting...


Also, Solemn Simulacrum is back. Way awesome! I was so stoked to see that last night. Set is looking pretty cool so far.



[Edited 2 times, lastly by hilikuS on June 29, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by joz:
Meh, paying 7 mana for fact or fiction faty without protection/evasion/shroud of any sort is a bad play, even in EDH.

Flying is an evasion ability.

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quote:
Originally posted by JoshSherman:
Flying is an evasion ability.



My bad.

The text spoiler I read didn't list flying.

But its still 7 mana for fact or fiction.

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quote:
Originally posted by farsk8dutch:
I'm on the fence about the new art though, instead of Darth Vader he looks like C3PO. At least you'll be able to pick up a foil version for under $30 clams, although I'm not seeing pre-orders for foils at SCG..

http://mtgsalvation.com/magic-2012-m12-spoiler.html


I like the new art just fine. It's no sad robot, but it will do. I'm just happy I didn't pick up a foil one yet.

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New Chandra is amazing.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
New Chandra is amazing.

Yes it is

The end the turn artifact goes nicely with Solitary Confinment.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by TimeBeing on June 30, 2011]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
New Chandra is amazing.

The more i look at it, the more i feel like this is just a 4cc Nalaar. +1, deal 1 point. - a bunch, deal a bunch. Is there anything worth copying with her -2? Maybe Volt Charge or Tezzerets Gambit....

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The end your turn artifact is gonna be broken in half.

I like the new Chandra but I don't think I'd play her over Koth. Gonna be fun in EDH tho!

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MasterWolf:
The end your turn artifact is gonna be broken in half.

I like the new Chandra but I don't think I'd play her over Koth. Gonna be fun in EDH tho!


Really? I think the artifact is absolute trash. I mean most of the stuff you would want to skip would be during your upkeep and if you end your turn during your upkeep, you pretty much gave your opponent a time walk. I guess you can counter your opponent's brainstorm at EoT but no good player would let you do that. just my .02

 
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Originally posted by fluffycow:
Really? I think the artifact is absolute trash. I mean most of the stuff you would want to skip would be during your upkeep and if you end your turn during your upkeep, you pretty much gave your opponent a time walk. I guess you can counter your opponent's brainstorm at EoT but no good player would let you do that. just my .02

Dreadnaught, end my turn, go.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by MasterWolf:
Dreadnaught, end my turn, go.

Better than stifle?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
Better than stifle?

I'd play 8 stifles if I could.

Plus I'm sure there are other ways to break it that I have not thought of yet.

I just think it screams "break me".

Also could be used versus Fae in modern/ext.

 
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You wouldn't play chandra and koth in the same deck. Koth is an aggro card while chandra looks to be a control card.
 

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