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Topic: Post for Magic Stuff, Part 56
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hilikuS
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posted July 17, 2011 08:24 AM
        
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Originally posted by Markers:
Look at the bottom the of the card. It's sleeved...
Oh alright. Was gonna say, wth?? I finally got all (at least I think it's all) of my Scars Block sorted! I feel like a boss.
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joz
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posted July 17, 2011 08:34 AM
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Originally posted by hilikuS:
Oh alright. Was gonna say, wth??I finally got all (at least I think it's all) of my Scars Block sorted! I feel like a boss.
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WeedIan
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posted July 17, 2011 01:45 PM
I wish people would stop offering to buy my stuff on my trade thread.And what makes it worse is they always go "What price would you sell X for?" __________________
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nderdog
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posted July 17, 2011 09:17 PM
Ugh. I don't know how I even went 2-1 at today's release. I was stuck with 2 Worldslayers, a Quicksilver Amulet with only 2 creatures that would have been worth using it on, a Goblin Chieftain and 3 other goblins, Honor of the Pure and only enough white to go GW and a Rune-Scarred Demon but not enough black to support it. I wish I had the BoP or DoJ from my 2 prize packs (yeah, prize support sucks when you only have 5 people).Played 3 rounds of mini masters afterward, and depsite having a game-breaker every game (Inferno Titan, Rune-Scarred Demon and Vengeful Pharoah) not a single one of them got played due to mana issues. I won first round with a couple random fliers. Second round I lost to a Skinshifter because I couldn't get a single Swamp to play my Doom Blade, let alone the second swamp for the Demon. Final round, I threw up 3 walls to let my Tormented Soul keep inching me closer to victory, then my opponent forgot what Roc Egg did, and swung his Cudgel Troll into me, giving me enough of an air force to win the lone prize pack with another Inferno Titan. Very fun format. Extremely luck-based, but fun. __________________
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wakeupwithastory
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posted July 18, 2011 01:14 AM
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Originally posted by nderdog:
Ugh. I don't know how I even went 2-1 at today's release. I was stuck with 2 Worldslayers, a Quicksilver Amulet with only 2 creatures that would have been worth using it on, a Goblin Chieftain and 3 other goblins, Honor of the Pure and only enough white to go GW and a Rune-Scarred Demon but not enough black to support it. I wish I had the BoP or DoJ from my 2 prize packs (yeah, prize support sucks when you only have 5 people).Played 3 rounds of mini masters afterward, and depsite having a game-breaker every game (Inferno Titan, Rune-Scarred Demon and Vengeful Pharoah) not a single one of them got played due to mana issues. I won first round with a couple random fliers. Second round I lost to a Skinshifter because I couldn't get a single Swamp to play my Doom Blade, let alone the second swamp for the Demon. Final round, I threw up 3 walls to let my Tormented Soul keep inching me closer to victory, then my opponent forgot what Roc Egg did, and swung his Cudgel Troll into me, giving me enough of an air force to win the lone prize pack with another Inferno Titan. Very fun format. Extremely luck-based, but fun.
It's been interesting... Reminds me a bit of Momir (mtgo). Love that Pharoah, its been good for me lately.
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wakeupwithastory
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posted July 18, 2011 12:37 PM
jlennoxg asked: Did you just say hexproof has completely replaced shroud?
Yes, I did. It does not make sense supporting two mechanics that work that closely especially with different names. R&D spent a lot of time talking about it and decided to go with hexproof.
Note that this doesn’t mean that shroud is changing to hexproof on cards that have it. Shroud will be supported much as we support any keyword mechanic we’re not currently using (like say fear). But for the present (I won’t talk of the future because things can change), shroud is not being used on new cards.
from http://markrosewater.tumblr.com/
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caquaa
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posted July 18, 2011 03:20 PM
odd. Cards such as Neurok Commando seem better fitted as shroud then something like hexproof so it seems like it should have its place. That card would be much more playable with hexproof though. Hrm!
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junichi
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posted July 18, 2011 05:06 PM
Who in the right mind would buy the "poor" beta black lotus for $999.99?__________________
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stab107
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posted July 18, 2011 05:26 PM
Drafted some M12 a few days ago. Was a pretty bland draft with Titans pretty much winning most matches in the top 8 (I had a Frost Titan and a pretty mediocre control deck and I managed to top 4). I'm not a big fan of Core Set draft but a couple of the guys I played with were new to drafting so it was a good way for them to learn the ropes. I can't imagine throwing somebody in with Infect as one of the mechanics. Don't think I'll go out of my way to draft M12 but I won't actively not draft it like I did with Zendikar or M10. At least bloodthirst makes blocking decisions a bit more tricky.quote:
Originally posted by junichi:
Who in the right mind would buy the "poor" beta black lotus for $999.99?
LOL! Guess you gotta try to make money somehow...
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Thanos
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posted July 18, 2011 06:02 PM
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Originally posted by junichi:
Who in the right mind would buy the "poor" beta black lotus for $999.99?
I was ready to argue with you until I scrolled over the ID number...damn that hurts...
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thulnanth
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posted July 18, 2011 09:57 PM
On the plus side, you know it's legit 
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hilikuS
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posted July 19, 2011 06:01 AM
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Originally posted by joz:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NisCkxU544c
Just wait until someday my M11 and then M12 get sorted. Even Zen block might be sorted one day as well. *Looks to the sky.*
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Tha Gunslinga
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posted July 19, 2011 06:27 AM
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Originally posted by thulnanth:
On the plus side, you know it's legit
That Lotus is rebacked. __________________
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LemonMeringue
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posted July 19, 2011 09:00 AM
A bit more extreme than the bend test, the "rip into half" test is a sure way to spot fakes.
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joz
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posted July 19, 2011 09:02 AM
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Originally posted by LemonMeringue:
A bit more extreme than the bend test, the "rip into half" test is a sure way to spot fakes.
I was about to say... who let their two cats near their magic collection? __________________
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MasterWolf
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posted July 19, 2011 12:05 PM
OK, triple M12 draft.First pick first pack: Solemn Simulacrum
Serra Angel
Doom Blade Only other decent card in the pack is an Unsummon. No good black/white cards in the pack.... What do you take? I think Doom Blade is the right call... But I'm not sure...
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Markers
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posted July 19, 2011 12:07 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MasterWolf:
OK, triple M12 draft.First pick first pack: Solemn Simulacrum
Serra Angel
Doom Blade Only other decent card in the pack is an Unsummon. No good black/white cards in the pack.... What do you take? I think Doom Blade is the right call... But I'm not sure...
I'd take the simulacrum because you can use it in any deck and it's card advantage.
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NiceFaceLOL
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posted July 19, 2011 12:13 PM
In a draft where you keep the rares or the prizes are not significant Jens.
In a team draft/gp doomblade.Jens is good, but any deck where you fp doom blade you should at least be able to splash it and it is a lot bettet than jens
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stu55
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posted July 19, 2011 12:16 PM
Taking Doom Blade but thinking long and hard about that Serra and feeling bad for passing it
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MasterWolf
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posted July 19, 2011 12:22 PM
Yeah, obviously not a rare draft or playing for keeps.My thought process was that as P1P1, the power of Doom Blade/Serra was stronger than the card advantage of Jens. I also didn't want to send signals that the best two colors in M12 limited were open. I took Doom Blade because I could splash it in more decks.
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NiceFaceLOL
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posted July 19, 2011 12:28 PM
Also, if you take the Jens, you don't send a clear signal. If you take Db or serra the guy you're passing to is probably going to take the other.
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urza187
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posted July 19, 2011 12:58 PM
I'm on the other side of the fence.I'm taking Serra Angel, and feeling somewhat bad I'm passing Doom Blade. Taking Solemn almost sends that the 2 people to the left of you are Black and White then. Which means you're left with G/R/U. Not horrible options, but the odds of you getting passed a 1st pick quality card at the 2nd and 3rd pick good card in those 3 colors is slim. While you are setting your other 2 people to your left with 2 strong 1st pick cards. Nothing wrong with picking Doom Blade up. It's splashable, and its removal. I pick bombs ahead of removal though, and Serra Angel is a bomb in base set drafts. Even if with the new Spider that is a flyer killer lurking in the format. I'm also taking Serra because, even though it might risk that the person to the right may be in white and it might get me hosed, I feel like White is probably the best color in M12, and the past 2 "M" releases as well. White is fairly deep. My philosophy is that unless a card is >=$10 in a draft that you keep your cards, I'm taking the best draft pick.
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yakusoku
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posted July 19, 2011 01:02 PM
I would take Doom Blade, but taking Serra Angel isn't the end of the world. Taking Solemn is an awful idea. It may be card advantage, but the other two are far more powerful. Card advantage isn't everything - I've seen my opponent draw and draw and draw and still lose to permanents I have on the battlefield.It's first pack, first pick. If you first pick a card and find out that the guy who's passing to you is drafting that color, you've wasted one pick, but if he doesn't, you have a really strong card. You don't have to commit to black (or white if you take Serra Angel instead) 100% without wavering, but neither should you be scared of taking a colored card because you're "stuck" in that color. On a separate note... Am I being petty, is my friend being a jerk, or both? We were play testing for Standard and he wanted to try a new U/B control deck he put together and he asked me to pilot Elves. In one game, when he was at 12 life, I had an Ezuri, a Llanowar Elves, an Arbor Elf and two Elvish Archdruids plus 4 forests to his Consecrated Sphinx, Treasure Mage, and a 3/3 Wurm token with Lifelink and it's his turn. He thinks long and hard and says: quote:
Do players still get priority during the draw?Okay, then I've got two draws during your draw step to get removal.
So, I figure I'm in a good position and start calculating how much damage I can deal when... quote:
I'll Go For the Throat your Ezuri
ME: "Okay, so you have one removal and you're hoping to get a second removal for one of my Elvish Archdruids?" quote:
I'll Dismember your Elvish Archdruid.
ME: "Okay, so you had TWO creature removal spells and wanted a third?" quote:
You still have an Elvish Archdruid, two elves and four forests. I could still lose to an Ezuri that you draw. I've seen Elves do ridiculous things.
The next game, he's got a similarly strong position and makes an audible sigh as he says quote:
I don't have enough to play Trinket Mage and play Brittle Effigy and use the ability. I guess I'll just play Wurmcoil Engine and Dismember your Ezuri, losing 2 life. I hope I don't lose.
ME: How do you possibly lose this game? quote:
Hey, it's Elves. You do RIDICULOUS things. I don't know. You could still kill me somehow. I'm not 100% sure I'm going to win.
After that I rage quit our playtesting and said that he was one of those control players who isn't happy unless I am literally drawing to 0 outs in the deck. __________________
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[Edited 1 times, lastly by yakusoku on July 19, 2011]
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Montague
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posted July 19, 2011 01:05 PM
I take doomblade. period.
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NiceFaceLOL
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posted July 19, 2011 01:12 PM
quote:
Originally posted by urza187:
I feel like White is probably the best color in M12, and the past 2 "M" releases as well. White is fairly deep.
This is wrong, red is the best color by a huge margin. It has 3 common instant speed removal spells. 2 Unreal bloodthirst guys and a 5 drop that is only slightly worse than green. Then at uncommon it has 2 bombs to every other color except green's one.
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