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Nyarlathotep333
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posted October 11, 2011 07:25 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Nyarlathotep333 Click Here to Email Nyarlathotep333 Send a private message to Nyarlathotep333 Click to send Nyarlathotep333 an Instant MessageVisit Nyarlathotep333's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
quote:
Originally posted by jaromirjagr:
Wheres the best place to get magic set checklist?I want sets displayed by color artifact land etc.And little boxes by the cards so I can check it off if Ive got it.

Gatherer is what I use. You can custom sort the cards and output them as a checklist by color, set number, rarity, etc. No checkboxes though...I usually just cross off the cards as I put the set together.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by jaromirjagr:
Wheres the best place to get magic set checklist?I want sets displayed by color artifact land etc.And little boxes by the cards so I can check it off if Ive got it.

I use mostly this nowadays.

 
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Originally posted by Bagbokk:
Everyone has different priorities when trading, and this is fine. But value is actually the most common ground that people agree on more often than not (though the use of price guides may differ). You feel strongly about usability in formats, while someone else with Pods on their want list might actually BE in a rush to complete their decks, which is what wayne was getting at. You PERSONALLY don't need them, but that doesn't make his offer stupid as a GENERAL matter.

Making a blanket statement which implies that people are stupid if they offer to trade Standard-only cards for cards that can be used in other formats is problematic because there is no way for them to know your personal trading preferences unless you have them stated in your rules. Unless you made sure that the other trader already knows this, why would it be stupid for him to make the offer that he did (again, if the value otherwise lined up)?

[Edit: Also, not saying your considerations or preferences are wrong in any way, but not everyone thinks the same when trading, or has the same needs for cards. I just don't see how the offered trade is ridiculous simply because fetches are usable in other formats and Pods are not.]



I totally agree with this. Standard cards will be worth way more to a person who plays t2 regularly than one who does not.

 
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Just made an order online that I fully expect to get canceled tomorrow. I am hoping that by not cleaning them out of the under priced things that they might just ship it and raise the price of the rest. Not holding my breath, though.

If they cancel the order I will probably never order from them again, and if they fulfill it the store will be one of the first places I look in the future. I wonder if they think losing a past and (potential) future customer is worth the $40 on this order.

 
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Originally posted by sammyt125:
Just made an order online that I fully expect to get canceled tomorrow. I am hoping that by not cleaning them out of the under priced things that they might just ship it and raise the price of the rest. Not holding my breath, though.

If they cancel the order I will probably never order from them again, and if they fulfill it the store will be one of the first places I look in the future. I wonder if they think losing a past and (potential) future customer is worth the $40 on this order.


What did you order?

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quote:
Originally posted by iccarus:
What did you order?



If it's a sleeper card, why would he share it?

I'm assuming we'll find out tomorrow when his order goes through or not.

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I feel like none of the financial writers who write advocating MOTL ever include disclaimers in how to deal with Coolio or Me, or the horde of angry mobs that attack the idiots that come
 
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Originally posted by stu55:
I feel like none of the financial writers who write advocating MOTL ever include disclaimers in how to deal with Coolio or Me, or the horde of angry mobs that attack the idiots that come

I feel like that the people reading these articles translate "MOTL is good for trading" = "MOTL is a place full of suckas that you can take advantage of"

 
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quote:
Originally posted by stu55:
I feel like none of the financial writers who write advocating MOTL ever include disclaimers in how to deal with Coolio or Me, or the horde of angry mobs that attack the idiots that come

Yep.

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wayne
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Originally posted by stu55:
I feel like none of the financial writers who write advocating MOTL ever include disclaimers in how to deal with Coolio or Me, or the horde of angry mobs that attack the idiots that come


Meh, do we have to provide them with tissues also, in case they start blubbering like a small kid?

 
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Originally posted by stu55:
I feel like none of the financial writers who write advocating MOTL ever include disclaimers in how to deal with Coolio or Me, or the horde of angry mobs that attack the idiots that come

Earlier this year, I turned down a very lopsided legacy (my cards) v. standard (his cards) offer from a new MOTL'er. When he asked for a counter-offer for his supposed "fair" offer, I replied that it probably wasn't worth it considering his weak initial offer. He had in his rules that he doesn't trade legacy for standard. I figured he'd be understanding.

He pressed on and I finally let him know that his offer was offensive, especially after he considered it fair and based on the rules listed on top of his own h/w list. I certainly wasn't shy in letting him know it was a bit hypocritical.

What's his reply? Sends me this message telling me that I'm some immature child hiding behind a screen using words like "hypocrite." And his grand plan about how he's copy/pasting our PM's on twitter so that all his trading buddies and Medina can laugh about it.

Btw, I'm not even sure kids these days even know what hypocrite means. Education is sad.

 
wayne
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Originally posted by choco man:
Earlier this year, I turned down a very lopsided legacy (my cards) v. standard (his cards) offer from a new MOTL'er. When he asked for a counter-offer for his supposed "fair" offer, I replied that it probably wasn't worth it considering his weak initial offer. He had in his rules that he doesn't trade legacy for standard. I figured he'd be understanding.

He pressed on and I finally let him know that his offer was offensive, especially after he considered it fair and based on the rules listed on top of his own h/w list. I certainly wasn't shy in letting him know it was a bit hypocritical.

What's his reply? Sends me this message telling me that I'm some immature child hiding behind a screen using words like "hypocrite." And his grand plan about how he's copy/pasting our PM's on twitter so that all his trading buddies and Medina can laugh about it.

Btw, I'm not even sure kids these days even know what hypocrite means. Education is sad.


Post the conversation here so that we can laugh about it

 
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quote:
Originally posted by choco man:
What's his reply? Sends me this message telling me that I'm some immature child hiding behind a screen using words like "hypocrite." And his grand plan about how he's copy/pasting our PM's on twitter so that all his trading buddies and Medina can laugh about it.

good ole name dropping Medina... like we'd care. Maybe you'd feel sorry for him if you were aware that he knew Medina in person? heh.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by gaeacradle:
I feel like that the people reading these articles translate "MOTL is good for trading" = "MOTL is a place full of suckas that you can take advantage of"

+1
I especially hate the ridiculous offers on cards that spike (ie Splinter Twin and Stoneforge Mystic) using their pre spike value. After I reply with a fair counter offer using the current, higher value they call me an idiot for using the highest price I can find even though most, if not all, places have them at the higher price.

 
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Finally got my hands on 4x Spell Pierce. Can't wait to sleeve 'em up and start countering things!


For the last few years, I'd forgotten how awesome trading is--especially when you have a healthy and diverse metagame in which to use your new-fangled cards.

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LOL... wow I picked a bad time to get thrown under the bus.
 
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Wait, What? I'm confused.... :?

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Waiting for my box of Zendikar to arrive which i bought for $110 AUD, bargain if I say so myself.

However looking through the rares I don't see anything of note beyond the opposing sac lands, lotus cobra and bloodghast demon. Am I missing something?

 
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So my dilemma:

What to play in standard. Birthing Pod or Solar Flare.

Which deck is better?

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quote:
Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
So my dilemma:

What to play in standard. Birthing Pod or Solar Flare.

Which deck is better?

~MM


I'll let a pro handle which is better, but I'd imagine pod is cheaper. How much is Liliana going for now? Or has she already peaked?

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Originally posted by Bugger:
I'll let a pro handle which is better, but I'd imagine pod is cheaper. How much is Liliana going for now? Or has she already peaked?



I pulled a Liliana at my pre-release event
I also have 4x Snapcaster and 2x Jace, Memory Adept. So, cost wise, I have most of the $$ cards.

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Originally posted by Irate:
Waiting for my box of Zendikar to arrive which i bought for $110 AUD, bargain if I say so myself.

However looking through the rares I don't see anything of note beyond the opposing sac lands, lotus cobra and bloodghast demon. Am I missing something?


For value, you've hit most of the big ones. Any of the Planeswalkers should be fairly decent at the very least as trade bait. Goblin Guide, and Iona, Shield of Emera are another couple cards to keep an eye out for.

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^
thanks mate!
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
I'll let a pro handle which is better, but I'd imagine pod is cheaper. How much is Liliana going for now? Or has she already peaked?



Back down to 40-45 atm. Maybe less

 
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Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:
Finally got my hands on 4x Spell Pierce.


Isn't that a common? Dude, if you need commons, I can probably hook you up.

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