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iccarus
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posted October 13, 2011 08:30 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for iccarus Click Here to Email iccarus Send a private message to iccarus Click to send iccarus an Instant MessageVisit iccarus's Homepage  Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote View iccarus's Have/Want ListView iccarus's Have/Want List
quote:
Originally posted by Goaswerfraiejen:
I was just accused of netdecking a deck that nobody else plays and of which I am the original creator. Gotta love MWS. EDIT: Just wanted to point out that his ultra-rogue deck choice was MUC. =/

This is why I stopped using MWS awhile ago. I was using it to test actual decks I wanted to play and win with. Sorry if that means you have to, I don't know, face actual matches you might see at your local events. Forgive me for not having the time to solve the metagame with my own original creations.

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i got a sweet offer yesterday of a snapcaster for 4 dazes

I wasnt expecting to get a snapcaster for my cube until way later!

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
i got a sweet offer yesterday of a snapcaster for 4 dazes

I wasnt expecting to get a snapcaster for my cube until way later!


Wait what? Straight up non-foil Dazes? That's a little lopsided.

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
i got a sweet offer yesterday of a snapcaster for 4 dazes

I wasnt expecting to get a snapcaster for my cube until way later!


The funny thing is that is 3-4 months it will be a better deal for your trade partner.

 
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posted October 14, 2011 12:48 PM   Click Here to See the Profile for Pringlesman Click Here to Email Pringlesman Send a private message to Pringlesman Click to send Pringlesman an Instant Message Edit/Delete Message Reply With Quote 
Important question.

This weekend I'm playing in a casual legacy tournament. I decided I'm playing Dark Rituals. My favorite Dark Rit is the Phyrexian vs Coalition Dark Rits (Urza's saga art, new border). But I only own two. Do I round out the playset with two saga Rituals or do I go for consistant border and use two divine vs Demonic (5th art, new border).

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Montague:
The funny thing is that is 3-4 months it will be a better deal for your trade partner.

I doubt that Snapcaster Mage will be an $8-10 card.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Pringlesman:
Important question.

This weekend I'm playing in a casual legacy tournament. I decided I'm playing Dark Rituals. My favorite Dark Rit is the Phyrexian vs Coalition Dark Rits (Urza's saga art, new border). But I only own two. Do I round out the playset with two saga Rituals or do I go for consistant border and use two divine vs Demonic (5th art, new border).


Play with your four favorite Dark Rituals. I follow the same rules for basic lands. I don't feel a need to have them ALL the same, just play the ones you like the best.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by gaeacradle:
I doubt that Snapcaster Mage will be an $8-10 card.

What was the last rare in standard that stayed high?

 
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Stoneforge Mystic (pre-banning) and the Zendikar fetchlands were all around that price, IIRC.

Those were all rares that were good across multiple formats. Snapcaster Mage is unlikely to dip below $10 until at least after it rotates out of Standard. By the time the next set comes out, it might dip below $20, but I doubt it'll go below $10.

 
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Snapcaster is insane in legacy and is doing pretty well for itself in standard. It might hold pretty well for quite a while. I kinda felt it would be about half of what it is now, but after seeing it in legacy, I'm not so sure on that.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Montague:
What was the last rare in standard that stayed high?

Maelstrom Pulse, Noble Hierarch, Stoneforge Mystic.

 
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I know snapcaster is a good card, but being a good card isnt enough to keep a card that expensive.

Supply and demand play an extremely important part so the more Innistrad that is being opened the lower the price is going to fall, which is why we won't see a rare stay higher then $10. Noble Hierarch and Maelstrom Pulse were both in set's that werent opened as much because there werent any big time planeswalkers that were needed, which is why their price tag stayed high.

 
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When will people understand that Snapcaster sets NEW standards to rare card prices. It is ridiculous in most formats. It will never go below $10.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Montague:
I know snapcaster is a good card, but being a good card isnt enough to keep a card that expensive.

Supply and demand play an extremely important part so the more Innistrad that is being opened the lower the price is going to fall, which is why we won't see a rare stay higher then $10. Noble Hierarch and Maelstrom Pulse were both in set's that werent opened as much because there werent any big time planeswalkers that were needed, which is why their price tag stayed high.


Legacy players are not exactly screaming for a playset of Maelstrom Pulse, Noble Hierarch OR Stoneforge Mystic. Even if the last 2 are Legacy playables. Snapcaster Mage is a STAPLE already in Legacy, and probably Vintage too.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by gaeacradle:
Legacy players are not exactly screaming for a playset of Maelstrom Pulse, Noble Hierarch OR Stoneforge Mystic. Even if the last 2 are Legacy playables. Snapcaster Mage is a STAPLE already in Legacy, and probably Vintage too.

Hierarch and SFM are, for the moment, more widely played and playable than Snapcaster Mage. Snapcaster is not a staple yet: it's just a very good card that will get better as new sets are printed. Odds are it will go down in value a little for a while before shooting up again as the result of a new set. It needs a regular home in one or more decks before it can really be considered a staple.

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Originally posted by Pringlesman:
Important question.

I'd go with different arts. But we allll know Mirage is the coolest.

 
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Snapcaster is also the first in a set. You can't compare with noble, sfm, or pulse. You have to compare with Fetches, ratchet bomb, and scars duals (they have a lot of value now).

I don't even think M12 gets opened as much as the first in a block.

Snapcaster is a good card and if he becomes too much of a problem Planar Void could get some love as it deals with goyfs, knights, loam, crucible, reanimator as well.

 
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There were alot of snapcasters in this past weeks SCG legacy event.

Also it is bonkers, i was playing a BUG build this week and using it and bob i may drop green. Tarm is good but these 2 creatures just disrupt and give advantage so much.

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Got this beauty in the PM box yesterday:

quote:
Originally posted by some fool:
How about my force of will nm for your foil maze of ith and foil guilded lotus.

Maybe I could toss in a Jace or 2 as well. Some people have no shame.

 
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Got a pretty bad trade offer today

quote:
Originally posted by skibulk:
Hello,

How about my English non-foils:
1 Grim Monolith UL, EX-
1 Stonehewer Giant EVE, EX (with barely noticible 1" bend)

For your English non-foils:
3 Scalding Tarn ZEN, EX or Better


So then I go to his thread to reply, and I see:

==Fetches==
Everybody wants these,
I value them at double
market value for trades

Double standard huh?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by gcowhsu:
Snapcaster is also the first in a set. You can't compare with noble, sfm, or pulse. You have to compare with Fetches, ratchet bomb, and scars duals (they have a lot of value now).

I don't even think M12 gets opened as much as the first in a block.

Snapcaster is a good card and if he becomes too much of a problem Planar Void could get some love as it deals with goyfs, knights, loam, crucible, reanimator as well.


Don't people already play leyline in their sideboards? Planar void just seems worse than Leyline.

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Seems like people on MOTL are finally willing to sell their Liliana's for $50 now that they are $40 on eBay.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by sammyt125:
Got this beauty in the PM box yesterday:

Maybe I could toss in a Jace or 2 as well. Some people have no shame.


Oooo....who was this?

 
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Originally posted by sammyt125:
Got this beauty in the PM box yesterday

Old member or new member?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by gaeacradle:
Oooo....who was this?

hooper101

 

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