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Topic: The Rulings and Questions Thread, part 50: Post ALL your Rules Questions Here
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choco man Member
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posted February 23, 2012 04:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by caquaa: print out the rules from rules.wizards.com and show him why its not correct then. Its all about educating. Pretty sure the stars were considered 0s a looong while back, but can't really say for certain. Sometimes people just play cards incorrectly as well.
Yes, a lot of cards that were originally printed as */* are now more accurately printed as 0/0's to reflect Oracle.
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Trumpeter New Member
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posted February 28, 2012 04:31 AM
If a creature enters the battlefied during the upkeep (say via Endless Ranks of the Dead, Sheoldred, etc...), can it attack that same turn?
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caquaa Member
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posted February 28, 2012 04:43 AM
quote: Originally posted by Trumpeter: If a creature enters the battlefied during the upkeep (say via Endless Ranks of the Dead, Sheoldred, etc...), can it attack that same turn?
only if it has haste. 302.6. A creature’s activated ability with the tap symbol or the untap symbol in its activation cost can’t be activated unless the creature has been under its controller’s control continuously since his or her most recent turn began. A creature can’t attack unless it has been under its controller’s control continuously since his or her most recent turn began. This rule is informally called the “summoning sickness” rule.
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Skwirlnutz Member
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posted February 29, 2012 01:05 PM
Does War's Toll + Ghostly Prison effect lock out opponents from attacking me?
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psrex Member
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posted February 29, 2012 01:10 PM
quote: Originally posted by Skwirlnutz: Does War's Toll + Ghostly Prison effect lock out opponents from attacking me?
No, the opponent can still attack, though they would have to add all of their mana to their mana pool at once.
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Jazaray Moderator
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posted March 02, 2012 07:28 PM
quote: Originally posted by TinCup2: Can you stifle Wastelands sac ability so you can waste 2 lands?
No, sacing the wasteland is a part of the ability cost, not an ability itself. Thanks, Jazaray __________________ A Plastered Dragon Original Limerick: There was a nice lassie named Jaz Many wished to have what she has, A delicate face, A soft warm embrace, And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.WeedIan: Jazaray is like MOTL's Mom. Jaz is now selling Tupperware! Help her out! ;)
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simbayu Member
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posted March 04, 2012 11:23 AM
Can you cast Phantasmal Image choosing Akroma Angel of Fury (pro blue)?Thanks in advance! - Henry
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iccarus Member
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posted March 04, 2012 11:27 AM
quote: Originally posted by simbayu: Can you cast Phantasmal Image choosing Akroma Angel of Fury (pro blue)?Thanks in advance! - Henry
Yes. Phantasmal Image does not target the Akroma when it enters the battlefield as a copy, so it is a valid choice. __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air!I collect Granite Gargoyles. Send them my way.
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fluffycow Member
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posted March 04, 2012 12:57 PM
If urabrask the hidden comes into play with a creature an opponent controls, does the opponent's creature come into play tapped?
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JoshSherman Member
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posted March 05, 2012 07:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by fluffycow: If urabrask the hidden comes into play with a creature an opponent controls, does the opponent's creature come into play tapped?
No. The following is C/P'd from The Mana Drain. It was posted by Clariax, who is a level 2 judge. quote:
Urabrask's ability creates a replacement effect. It replaces your opponents' creatures entering the battlefield with those creatures entering the battlefield tapped. As such, it applies to those creatures before they're on the battlefield. For this to be possible, the ability has to be around before those creatures are on the battlefield. So if Urabrask is entering the battlefield at the same time, there's no ability to cause the other creatures to enter tapped. A card like Twilight's Call or Show and Tell causes multiple permanents to enter simultaneously.In the case of a Eureka or Thieves' Auction, the permanents do not enter the battlefield simultaneously. They enter sequentially. So if Urabrask is already on the battlefield when the opponents' creatures enter, they'll enter tapped. If Urabrask doesn't enter until later, then the opponents' creatures are already on the battlefield and won't be affected by his ability.
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Timmy! Member
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posted March 05, 2012 07:36 AM
My friend casts a Balance. At the time my other friend had two cards, but in response to Balance being cast, this other friend casts a Worldly Tutor. This puts him at one card before Balance resolves. Is the Balance for down to 1 card because the Worldly Tutor went off or is it 2 cards because that is what was imprinted on the Balance when it was cast? Goblin Matron, Brightstone Ritual, and other 'Search for a Goblin' Cards: With the creation of Goblin permanents other than creatures, are these cards able to search for a Goblin card and/or do they count for a Brightstone Ritual? Or have the older cards been errated to say that it is only Goblin CREATURE they affect? __________________ Help me Obi-Wan Kenobi... ...you're my only hope.
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fluffycow Member
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posted March 05, 2012 09:15 AM
quote: Originally posted by JoshSherman: No. The following is C/P'd from The Mana Drain. It was posted by Clariax, who is a level 2 judge.
Didn't think so, too bad though. Thanks
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Devonin Member
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posted March 05, 2012 10:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by Timmy!: My friend casts a Balance. At the time my other friend had two cards, but in response to Balance being cast, this other friend casts a Worldly Tutor. This puts him at one card before Balance resolves. Is the Balance for down to 1 card because the Worldly Tutor went off or is it 2 cards because that is what was imprinted on the Balance when it was cast?
Nothing is 'imprinted' on the Balance when it was cast. In response to casting Balance, someone casts Worldly Tutor. Assuming nobody else responds to anything, Worldly Tutor will resolve, then Balance. Balance will say "Everyone pitch down to the lowest number of cards" which is "1"
quote: Goblin Matron, Brightstone Ritual, and other 'Search for a Goblin' Cards: With the creation of Goblin permanents other than creatures, are these cards able to search for a Goblin card and/or do they count for a Brightstone Ritual? Or have the older cards been errated to say that it is only Goblin CREATURE they affect?
Goblin Matron for sure can get anything with the Goblin subtype on it including non-creatures. I'm less sure about Brightstone because Matron says "A Goblin Card" which includes Goblin instants, sorceries etc, but Ritual says "For each Goblin on the battlefield" which I want to think refers only to creatures. I'm not answering to that card though because I'm not positive.
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orcishartillery Member
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posted March 05, 2012 10:52 AM
quote: Originally posted by Devonin: Goblin Matron for sure can get anything with the Goblin subtype on it including non-creatures. I'm less sure about Brightstone because Matron says "A Goblin Card" which includes Goblin instants, sorceries etc, but Ritual says "For each Goblin on the battlefield" which I want to think refers only to creatures. I'm not answering to that card though because I'm not positive.
Brightstone Ritual counts all permanents with the subtype Goblin. To count only creatures, it would be templated "For each Goblin creature on the battlefield".Many cards have been errataed, particularly lords (e.g. Goblin King, which has since been reprinted with the new templating), because their effects only make sense when applied to creatures. Other cards have not been errataed, and so they can interact with tribal cards. You can consult Gatherer to see the current Oracle text for each card you're curious about.
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broiler1977 Member
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posted March 08, 2012 03:50 PM
I just used a dark confidant. I looked at the card and paid my life, then drew a card. I was told to learn the rules of the card. What are they?
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caquaa Member
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posted March 08, 2012 03:53 PM
quote: Originally posted by broiler1977: I just used a dark confidant. I looked at the card and paid my life, then drew a card. I was told to learn the rules of the card. What are they?
At the beginning of your upkeep, reveal the top card of your library and put that card into your hand. You lose life equal to its converted mana cost. only thing I can think of based on your description.
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broiler1977 Member
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posted March 08, 2012 03:55 PM
I did reveal it. Then I did what I said and the person told me to learn the rules of the card and left the game???
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Sovarius Member
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posted March 08, 2012 04:03 PM
At the beginning of your upkeep, before you drew a card? You showed it to them?
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broiler1977 Member
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posted March 08, 2012 04:04 PM
Yeah, I revealed it. It was still on the top of my library so, maybe he didn't see it. It was a Jace, so I certainly paid for it.
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caquaa Member
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posted March 08, 2012 06:56 PM
sounds like magic workstation. Why do you even bother playing there? its full of scrubs that don't know how cards work, the rules of the game, how to construct a deck, etc
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broiler1977 Member
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posted March 08, 2012 11:01 PM
I use it to test cards before buying them. If you know somebody but don't live near them, it's worthwile.
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southparker2002 Member
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posted March 09, 2012 04:41 AM
If a token gains undying from Mikeaus, does it come back or does it fizzle away when it goes into the graveyard?
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thror Member
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posted March 09, 2012 08:07 AM
quote: Originally posted by southparker2002: If a token gains undying from Mikeaus, does it come back or does it fizzle away when it goes into the graveyard?
tokens always cease to exist once they leave the battlefield. so you wont be getting any undeaded tokens from mikeaus. __________________ "He fights you not because you have wronged him, but because you are there."[16:17] <@BrassMan> what do you need new tech for? [16:18] <@BrassMan> gush is unrestricted [19:01] <nderEvo> you can delete yourself
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southparker2002 Member
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posted March 09, 2012 10:41 AM
quote: Originally posted by thror: tokens always cease to exist once they leave the battlefield. so you wont be getting any undeaded tokens from mikeaus.
thats what i thought, thank you
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Schwingzilla Member
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posted March 09, 2012 12:42 PM
This is a little silly, but not entirely, as I was actually toying with this idea as the most economical kill in a deck, as it only required six cards compared to other decks which usually used more.I was building Cephalid Illusionist and Shuko. I've got those two cards in play, in my library are: Terravore Sutured Ghoul Dragon's Breath 2 Narcomoeba Dread Return Gaea's Blessing Here's the plan: Mill myself enough times to get both Narcomoebas in play. This is complicated by Gaea's Blessing. Once I have two Narcomoebas and one Cephalid Illusionist, I have something like 46 cards in my library. So, I need to mill myself 15 times, leaving one card in my library, which is a Gaea's Blessing. Then I Dread Return Sutured Ghoul, Removing Terravore, Dragon's Breath it, and attack to win. The problem is, for this to work, I need to get every non-Gaea's Blessing card in my graveyard. Each time I shuffle, I have a 1/46 chance of succeeding. But it's also an infinite loop. I have a non-zero, calculable probability of winning each time, and this is an infinite loop, so it's guaranteed to happen over a long enough scale, so: 1) Is it sufficient to say "Loop until Gaea's Blessing is the only card in my library" 2) Since people are gonna be all lame about 1), is it really stalling to actually try this as fast as I can? Shuffle, flip over the top 45 cards, see if there's a Gaea's Blessing. If there is, repeat. It would probably only take 15 seconds each time, and it is my goal and sort of advances my agenda to win the game. Anyway, I think I took Loam to that tournament. But it did raise the question about whether I can use an almost sure victory condition.
[Edited 1 times, lastly by Schwingzilla on March 09, 2012]
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