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Originally posted by GremCards:
What would the result be if you put a Lure on a Charging Rhino?

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pretty sure the world implodes.

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Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Does Astral Slide still work the way it used too?

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also, vague question gets fairly smart ass remarks ;p

best I could do is assume you're referring to when the dude comes back?

10/4/2004 If a player cycles a card during the end of turn step, the creature that is exiled won't come back until the end of the next turn.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
[QUOTE]Originally posted by MeddlingMage:
Does Astral Slide still work the way it used too?

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also, vague question gets fairly smart ass remarks ;p

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After I posted, I realized the question in my head didn't translate well here. I remember bouncing attackers etc and bouncing dude on my opponents turns to either gain life, or some other citp effect. So as long as I don't say, "at the end of your turn" then I'm fine?

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Comprehensive Rules:

118.5. If an effect sets a player's life total to a specific number, the player gains or loses the necessary amount of life to end up with the new total.

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does it work on lands like Mystic Gate, Minamo, School at Water's Edge, Tolarian Academy, etc?

also if I play 2 High Tides is it Cumulative?

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Originally posted by mtg_collector:
Questions on High Tide

does it work on lands like Mystic Gate, Minamo, School at Water's Edge, Tolarian Academy, etc?

also if I play 2 High Tides is it Cumulative?

ex Island first one gives me 2, next one gives me 4?

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Compare Mystic Gate to Hallowed Fountain. One of them says 'island', one of them doesnt. Is Noble Hierarch an Island? Just because something makes blue mana does NOT mean it's an island.

Multiple High Tides ARE cumulative, NOT multiplicative. The first high tide makes all islands produce one extra U. The second high tide makes all islands produce one extra U. After two Tides, Islands produce UU extra, in addition to whatever else they were making.

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I've only been to a few small local tournaments. My first one, the guy suspected me of seeding my deck such that every 3rd card was a land. So he took my deck, removed every 3rd card and put them together in a clump, then did a weak shuffle and gave it back.

Today I was at a tournament where after I shuffled my deck in front of him and presented it for him to cut. He took my deck, shuffled it numerous times, dropped some cards, crammed them back in upside down, shuffled it more times, dropped more cards then shoved them in, shuffled it again, then said "What? I'm allowed to shuffle for 5 minutes. Is that a problem?"

So what exactly is your opponent allowed to do and not do to your deck after you present it?

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Originally posted by rockondon:
In a mtg tournament, what exactly is your opponent allowed to do to your deck when you present it to him at the beginning of the game?

I've only been to a few small local tournaments. My first one, the guy suspected me of seeding my deck such that every 3rd card was a land. So he took my deck, removed every 3rd card and put them together in a clump, then did a weak shuffle and gave it back.

Today I was at a tournament where after I shuffled my deck in front of him and presented it for him to cut. He took my deck, shuffled it numerous times, dropped some cards, crammed them back in upside down, shuffled it more times, dropped more cards then shoved them in, shuffled it again, then said "What? I'm allowed to shuffle for 5 minutes. Is that a problem?"

So what exactly is your opponent allowed to do and not do to your deck after you present it?

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For the first one, IF he thinks that, HE should call a judge. Your opp is ONLY allowed to randomize your deck. He cant reverse stack it if he thinks you are cheating. I would call a judge if that's what my opp said+did.

For the second one, they are NOT allowed to shuffle for 5 minutes. Sideboarding, shuffling, presenting, and opponent shuffle should take THREE minutes or less. Mulligans+ additional shuffling must be done in a 'timely manner'. (Section 2.3 of the current Tournament Rules)http://www.wizards.com/ContentResources/Wizards/WPN/Main/Documents/Magic_The_Gathering_Tournament_Rules_PDF2.pdf

If your opp is dropping cards, call a judge. Repeatedly dropping cards can be a sign of cheating, because they can get information about your deck they aren't supposed to have.

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Originally posted by rockondon:
In a mtg tournament, what exactly is your opponent allowed to do to your deck when you present it to him at the beginning of the game?

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this is the closest the rules come to covering it:

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3.9 Card Shuffling
Decks must be randomized at the start of every game and whenever an instruction requires it. Randomization is defined as bringing the deck to a state where no player can have any information regarding the order or position of cards in any portion of the deck. Pile shuffling alone is not sufficiently random.
Once the deck is randomized, it must be presented to an opponent. By this action, players state that their decks are legal and randomized. The opponent may then shuffle it additionally. Cards and sleeves must not be in danger of being damaged during this process. If the opponent does not believe the player made a reasonable effort to randomize his or her deck, the opponent must notify a judge. Players may request to have a judge shuffle their cards rather than the opponent; this request will be honored only at a judge’s discretion.
If a player has had the opportunity to see any of the card faces of the deck being shuffled, the deck is no longer considered randomized and must be randomized again.
At Competitive and Professional REL tournaments, players are required to shuffle their opponents’ decks after their owners have shuffled them. The Head Judge can require this at Regular REL tournaments as well.[/i]

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Originally posted by rockondon:
In a mtg tournament, what exactly is your opponent allowed to do to your deck when you present it to him at the beginning of the game?

I've only been to a few small local tournaments. My first one, the guy suspected me of seeding my deck such that every 3rd card was a land. So he took my deck, removed every 3rd card and put them together in a clump, then did a weak shuffle and gave it back.

Today I was at a tournament where after I shuffled my deck in front of him and presented it for him to cut. He took my deck, shuffled it numerous times, dropped some cards, crammed them back in upside down, shuffled it more times, dropped more cards then shoved them in, shuffled it again, then said "What? I'm allowed to shuffle for 5 minutes. Is that a problem?"

So what exactly is your opponent allowed to do and not do to your deck after you present it?

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Originally posted by choco man:
Does Frenetic Efreet + Chance Encounter win you the game next upkeep if unmolested?

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Yep.

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Originally posted by Trumpeter:
If I have a Strangleroot Geist and Vorapede and my opponent has a Clone (cloning Strangleroot Geist), what happens to Clone if he did a board wipe (say Life's Finale)? We had a dilemma about the Undying part.

Would it still be able to copy Vorapede or Geist? Or would he not be able to copy anything since they all came in at the same time?

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This is a tricky one, because undying is a triggered ability, and they DONT come back at the same time. They come back one at a time, as their undying triggers resolve.

Triggers go onto the stack in Active Player - NonActive Player order. So if HE wrathed, his goes onto the stack, then yours on top of that. Your dudes will come back first, then his clone, and he can choose to copy any of your dudes.

If YOU wrathed, his clone would come back first, and wouldn't have anything to copy. So it would be a blank clone with a +1/+1 counter on it.

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1.When the player declare attackers in a group game does annihilator trigger off?

2.What happens if a token gets phase?

I saw it done at SCG, but if I misdirect a (thoughtseize, durress, inquisition, etc) I get to choose which card it discarded right?

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Originally posted by GenghisTom:
Couple things:

I saw it done at SCG, but if I misdirect a (thoughtseize, durress, inquisition, etc) I get to choose which card it discarded right?

ah shoot, I can't remember the second question...
It'll come to me.

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No, you dont get to. They still control the spell, you just changed the target player. The other player still gets to make the discard choice. However, they still have to REVEAL their hand to you if the card says to. '701.13a To reveal a card/s, show that card/s to all players for a brief time.'

So you will know the contents of their hand, and they will have to choose a card to discard if a legal choice is available to them.

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Originally posted by Mr.C:
Yep.

Not sure if you would have to flip all coins, though.

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Mathematically no.

Magic rules yes.

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Originally posted by choco man:
Does Frenetic Efreet + Chance Encounter win you the game next upkeep if unmolested?

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Originally posted by ryan2754:
Confused on how this is an auto-win....

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In response to the result of the coin-flip, you can choose to flip again. And again.

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Originally posted by GenghisTom:
Couple things:

I saw it done at SCG, but if I misdirect a (thoughtseize, durress, inquisition, etc) I get to choose which card it discarded right?

ah shoot, I can't remember the second question...
It'll come to me.

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For clarity, you can't Misdirect a Duress. It reads: "Target opponent.." and since you don't control the spell itself, the only opponent will be you.

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Originally posted by AEther Storm:
For clarity, you can't Misdirect a Duress. It reads: "Target opponent.." and since you don't control the spell itself, the only opponent will be you.

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For clarity, you can cast a misdirection targeting a duress. Misdirection only needs to target a spell with a single target, it just can't change the target if there is no new legal target. Figured its worth elaborating on.

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Originally posted by ryan2754:
Confused on how this is an auto-win....

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The efreet has an ability that says 0: Flip a coin

So you can put that on the stack as many times as you want before you start resolving them. Chance Encounter gets a counter every time you win a coin toss and if your upkeep arrives with 10 or more counters on it, you win.

It's not an -auto- win unless you can get your opponent to agree that you -could- pick such an arbitrarily large number as to statistically guarantee 10 wins, but you could pick a reasonable but large number like 50 which still gives you a very above average chance of getting 10 wins if they make you flip each coin.

Frenetic Efreet -was- changed to work like Frenetic Sliver's rules text which would mean you only resolved flips while the efreet was still around (which would only be one, because that first flip either phases him out or kills him) but the undid the change and put it back as printed later on.

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Originally posted by flavor_of_the_weak:
I have to question 2 ask

1.When the player declare attackers in a group game does annihilator trigger off?

2.What happens if a token gets phase?

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I'm not really sure what exactly you mean by 1. Does annihilator trigger off? If you declare at attacker that has annihilator, it happens, it doesn't matter if it's a group game or not. The player you've chosen to attack is the one who gets annihilated. If your group game allows splitting attacks, the one attacked by the creature with annihilator is the one who gets annihilated.