Draw Trigger One on the stack
Draw Trigger Two on the stack
Draw Trigger Three on the stack
Draw Trigger Four on the stack
Pass Priority Out
Pass Priority Back
Fourth Draw Trigger Resolves, First Mill trigger goes on the stack
Pass Priority Out
Pass Priority Back
First Mill Trigger Resolves
Pass Priority Out
Pass Priority Back
Third Draw Trigger Resolves, Second Mill trigger goes on the stack.

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Originally posted by hilikuS:
I have a Mist Dragon out. My opponent casts Threaten on it, and then phases it out during his main phase.

Who gets the Dragon when it returns from Phasing?

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702.24b If a permanent phases out, its status changes to "phased out." Except for rules and effects that specifically mention phased-out permanents, a phased-out permanent is treated as though it does not exist. It can't affect or be affected by anything else in the game.
Example: You control three creatures, one of which is phased out. You cast a spell that says "Draw a card for each creature you control." You draw two cards.
Example: You control a phased-out creature. You cast a spell that says "Destroy all creatures." The phased-out creature is not destroyed.

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Originally posted by Pail42:
Your opponent will keep the dragon because threaten cannot return a phased out permanent.

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I don't believe this is correct but I'm not sure. To my understanding Phasing permanents are the same creature/enchantment/land when they phase out as they do in.

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Originally posted by mcelraca:
I don't believe this is correct but I'm not sure. To my understanding Phasing permanents are the same creature/enchantment/land when they phase out as they do in.

Because of this, wouldn't the dragon be returned once it has phased in and reaches the end of anyone's turn?

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Phased out permanents are no longer in play while they are phased out. Threaten sets a delayed trigger when it resolves, to have its current controller lose control of the permanent at end of turn. However, when the end of turn comes around, threaten goes "Oh...I can't see that permanent any more, must be out of play, oh well" and goes quietly off the stack.

So when it phases back in, there's no longer anything saying "give it back"

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Originally posted by Devonin:
Threaten sets a delayed trigger when it resolves, to have its current controller lose control of the permanent at end of turn. However, when the end of turn comes around, threaten goes "Oh...I can't see that permanent any more, must be out of play, oh well" and goes quietly off the stack.

So when it phases back in, there's no longer anything saying "give it back"

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Threaten does not create any trigger. Threaten creates a continuous effect with a duration.

702.24e. Continuous effects that affect a phased-out permanent may expire while that permanent is phased out. If so, they will no longer affect that permanent once it’s phased in. In particular, effects with “for as long as” durations that track that permanent (see rule 611.2b) end when that permanent phases out because they can no longer see it.

Player 1 owns/controls the dragon. During player 2's turn dragon gets threatened and phased out. During player 2's clean up step threaten's control effect ends. Player 1 takes a turn. When player 2 begins his next untap step the dragon phases in under player 1's control.

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Originally posted by caquaa:
Threaten does not create any trigger. Threaten creates a continuous effect with a duration.

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Is the way to tell if something is a continuous effect with a duration the word "until"?

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Originally posted by Pail42:
Is the way to tell if something is a continuous effect with a duration the word "until"?

Cards that use wording like "At the end of turn ..." or "At the beginning of your next upkeep" create triggers that go on the stack right?

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continuous effects with a duration will use "until" or "for long as".

Question 1:
I have Oros, the Avenger equipped with Scythe of the Wretched, I attack, I use Oros' ability hitting 3 creatures, killing them, now when Scythe's ability triggers, do I get all 3 creatures back, and if I do which one does the Scythe end up equipping to?

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Can I flashback a Cyclonic Rift for it's overload cost, or just 1U?

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you can only flash back for 1U. Flashback and Overload are both alternative costs and you can only pay for one.

601.2b. If the spell is modal the player announces the mode choice (see rule 700.2). If the player wishes to splice any cards onto the spell (see rule 702.45), he or she reveals those cards in his or her hand. If the spell has alternative or additional costs that will be paid as it's being cast such as buyback, kicker, or convoke costs (see rules 117.8 and 117.9), the player announces his or her intentions to pay any or all of those costs (see rule 601.2e). A player can't apply two alternative methods of casting or two alternative costs to a single spell. If the spell has a variable cost that will be paid as it's being cast (such as an X in its mana cost; see rule 107.3), the player announces the value of that variable. If a cost that will be paid as the spell is being cast includes hybrid mana symbols, the player announces the nonhybrid equivalent cost he or she intends to pay. If a cost that will be paid as the spell is being cast includes Phyrexian mana symbols, the player announces whether he or she intends to pay 2 life or the corresponding colored mana cost for each of those symbols. Previously made choices (such as choosing to cast a spell with flashback from a graveyard or choosing to cast a creature with morph face down) may restrict the player's options when making these choices

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Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
Question 1:
I have Oros, the Avenger equipped with Scythe of the Wretched, I attack, I use Oros' ability hitting 3 creatures, killing them, now when Scythe's ability triggers, do I get all 3 creatures back, and if I do which one does the Scythe end up equipping to?

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Scythe triggers for each creature that dies via damage from Oros. Since this all happens at the same time, you control the order the triggers go on the stack. The last creature scythe brings back is the one it will be equipped to.

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Originally posted by Skwirlnutz:
Question 2:
I attack with Sun Titan, I go to bring back Rune-Tail, Kitsune Ascendant, does it come back automatically as the Rune-Tail or can I have it come back as the flipped side, Rune-Tails Essence?

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Thanks,
Jazaray

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A Plastered Dragon Original Limerick:
There was a nice lassie named Jaz
Many wished to have what she has,
A delicate face,
A soft warm embrace,
And a whole lot of bedroom pizzazz.

WeedIan: Jazaray is like MOTL's Mom.

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Originally posted by Jazaray:
If I sac an artifact creature for the third ability on Trading Post can I target the creature I just sacrificed?

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Originally posted by keywacat:
When Onslaught came out I remember there was some trick with Goblin Sharpshooter where he could fire out of the grave, after a Wrath of God for example. I cannot remember how or why that worked, does anyone know?

Cheers for it;
keywacat

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The only real "trick" to sharpshooter is to kill X creatures at once which puts X untap triggers on the stack. You then activate the sharpshooter, let the next untap trigger resolve and repeat until you have dealt X damage and are left with an untapped sharpshooter.

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Originally posted by Pail42:
The only real "trick" to sharpshooter is to kill X creatures at once which puts X untap triggers on the stack. You then activate the sharpshooter, let the next untap trigger resolve and repeat until you have dealt X damage and are left with an untapped sharpshooter.

Players who don't understand the stack very well tend to believe it's only possible to do one untap in the situation where multiple creatures die simultaneously.

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Originally posted by Myy:
does this only work if the sharpshooter is still in play?

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Originally posted by AGO:
Does Aven Mindcensore affect Summoning Trap?

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Originally posted by Myy:
does this only work if the sharpshooter is still in play?

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Originally posted by keywacat:
So after a Wrath of God, which kills the Sharpshooter along with everything else, you don't get any untap triggers, correct? He's just dead as I understand the explanations so far.

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right there's no time where you can do anything from the thing being destroyed and putting it in the graveyard

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Originally posted by keywacat:
So after a Wrath of God, which kills the Sharpshooter along with everything else, you don't get any untap triggers, correct? He's just dead as I understand the explanations so far.

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Originally posted by denholm:
Does Sudden Spoiling override Eldrazi Conscription making the creature a 0/2? What about equipements like Luxodon Warhammer?

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It will be an 0/2 that has +10/+10 etc from the enchantment