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gcowhsu
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So RTR looked really good in the beginning and now it's starting slow down to a screeching halt. Best card in the last week is that Oring card.

Grisly salvage and Jarad's orders look nice but nothing to rave about.

 
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contemplated picking up pithing needles in case their price jumped a bit, then i realized the new artwork is SO much cooler. wizards sure knows how to take my money...
 
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Rakdos Charm
BR
Instant
Choose one: exile all cards from target player's
graveyard; or destroy target artifact; or each
creature deals 1 damage to its controller.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Rakdos Charm
BR
Instant
Choose one: exile all cards from target player's
graveyard; or destroy target artifact; or each
creature deals 1 damage to its controller.

Love the third ability.

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Am I the only person that's not a huge fan of the charms? I know they provide you with very diverse options, but they are all overcost for what they actually do, kinda like why kicker was never great
 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
Am I the only person that's not a huge fan of the charms? I know they provide you with very diverse options, but they are all overcost for what they actually do, kinda like why kicker was never great

I didn't like most of the charms, but Selesnya Charm is pretty ridiculous.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
Am I the only person that's not a huge fan of the charms? I know they provide you with very diverse options, but they are all overcost for what they actually do, kinda like why kicker was never great

Charms are always overcosted. The extra cost reflects their versatility.

 
Devonin
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And getting three abilities for 2 mana instead of three for 3 with the old ones makes them better.

Spells like these become EDH auto-includes soley because of the options. Every deck of mine that supports them will get one.

 
AGO
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quote:
Originally posted by SageShadows:
I didn't like most of the charms, but Selesnya Charm is pretty ridiculous.

This charm is awesome. I really like the Izzet Charm also. The versatility of them makes them incredibly strong. Sad the Rakdos Charm is total crap.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by AGO:
This charm is awesome. I really like the Izzet Charm also. The versatility of them makes them incredibly strong. Sad the Rakdos Charm is total crap.

Rakdos charm is a good sideboard card in a RB deck. it fills two roles; one for artifact removal and one for anti-frites. i imagine once in a while it can also finish someone who fills up their board with 4-5 creatures.

If white weenie or tokens are good, it can help win races against them.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by dfitzg88:
Rakdos charm is a good sideboard card in a RB deck. it fills two roles; one for artifact removal and one for anti-frites. i imagine once in a while it can also finish someone who fills up their board with 4-5 creatures.

If white weenie or tokens are good, it can help win races against them.

I think rakdos charm is eminently playable. It's a sideboard card that's equally useful against two completely different strategies.

Any R/B/x control deck - or even a R/B aggro deck, really - would love to play this against tokens. Who cares if it's 2-3 to your dome for dealing 5 or 6 to your opponent's for only 2 mana? The option to hose reanimator and self-mill is just gravy.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by fluffycow:
Magic is stupid. I collected something like 60 pithing needles between its first printing and when they reprinted it in Xth. I now have around 90 of them, guess how much money I lost

you or magic?

if you need to win every time i feel a game of no-loser candyland comming up

[Edited 1 times, lastly by MagixDK on September 15, 2012]

 
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My first thought on see the Rakdos charm was 'they finally made Stronghold Discipline playable'. I never wanted to pay 2BB Sorcery for the effect, but now that's it's 1/3 an RB instant, I love it.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Jtrade77 on September 15, 2012]
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Jtrade77:
My first thought on see the Rakdos charm was 'they finally made Stronghold Discipline playable'. I never wanted to pay 2BB Sorcery for the effect, but now that's it's 1/3 an RB instant, I love it.

Agreed.

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mgoodridge
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Rakdos charm is completely bonkers for modern. Great sb against affinity, storm, splintertwin and pod.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by mgoodridge:
Rakdos charm is completely bonkers for modern. Great sb against affinity, storm, splintertwin and pod.

I don't disagree with the versatility of the charm, but there are 2 decks in modern that even run those colors (RB burn and jund), and I don't see either of them trying to run this card beyond 1 or 2 in the sideboard. Jund gets access to abrupt decay, which takes care of splinter twin, and jund charm is a better sideboard choice than rakdos charm.

 
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Rakdos, Lord of Riots
BBRR
Legendary Creature - Demon
You can't cast Rakdos, Lord of Riots unless an
opponent lost life this turn.
Flying, trample
Creature spells you cast cost 1 less to cast for
each 1 life your opponents have lost this turn.
6/6
 
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I'm not a fan of Rakdos... maybe I'm missing something, I don't think he is as great as people are saying.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
I'm not a fan of Rakdos... maybe I'm missing something, I don't think he is as great as people are saying.

Same here. You need early creatures so you can get through before casting him. But if you have early creatures, his bonus ability is almost useless. So if his bonus ability is useless, then he's just a conditional 6/6 flyer w/ trample that cost BBRR. I rather have Falkenrath Aristocrat.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Heresy19:
I'm not a fan of Rakdos... maybe I'm missing something, I don't think he is as great as people are saying.

There's more ways something can be great beyond being awesome in standard.

Art's good. Theme's fun. Going to be my EDH general!

I'm a big fan of Rakdos just because he encourages a deck builder to play aggressively. No fun just pillow-forting or politicing. I guess this goes specifically for multiplayer EDH.

 
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Salvation has a thread spoiling "Keyrunes", the substitution for Signets. While they are uncommon, the added ability to become a creature seems amazing for Limited play. I think these will end up in a lot of Cubes moving forward.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Rakdos, Lord of Riots
BBRR
Legendary Creature - Demon
You can't cast Rakdos, Lord of Riots unless an
opponent lost life this turn.
Flying, trample
Creature spells you cast cost 1 less to cast for
each 1 life your opponents have lost this turn.
6/6

Bump in the night is the new dark ritual!

 
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Terrible reprints are terrible.

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Some dude spoiled most of the set over at MTGS. Electrickery looks like it's going to hose whatever mana dork or token strategy people were gonna brew.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeckk:
Some dude spoiled most of the set over at MTGS. Electrickery looks like it's going to hose whatever mana dork or token strategy people were gonna brew.

Was Birds of Paradise among the cards spoiled?

 

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