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Originally posted by WeedIan:
Desecration Demon
2bb
Creature - Demon Rare
Flying
At the beginning of each combat, any opponent may sacrifice a creature. If a player does, tap Desecration Demon and put a +1/+1 counter on it.
Illus. Jason Chan #63/274 6/6

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Can't count on it to deal damage or block. Flying is pretty irrelevant when you opponent could just sac a ground dude to take him out of the picture. He is more like a 4 mana edict that only works when your opponent choose to. Trap written all over it.

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"I declare the start of my attack step"
"I sac a dude, tapping your man"

Which means it taps, gets +1/+1 and then if you have any means with which to untap it, you can do so, and still declare it as an attacker.

If nothing else, he's pretty beefy in EDH with the prevalence of things that can untap him in response to the tap resolving, or at least untap him to continue being a blocker on other players turns.

That, or you're playing against control and they simply don't HAVE creatures to sacrifice.

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Originally posted by Bagbokk:
Can't count on it, but you'd have to look at what kind of decks he'd likely be played in. Namely, the mono-black midrange/control type decks. You drop this guy on turn 3-4 and Mutilate the next turn and you're going to be doing pretty well. Not that I have any idea what kind of metagame RtR is going to have or if something similar to mono-black would be viable/competitive, but the point being, this card might not be one that's for every deck to play, but could be very good in certain ones.

That, or you're playing against control and they simply don't HAVE creatures to sacrifice.

He's also a possibility in some zombie decks (if everyone isn't already gravitating to BG or jund zombie) with Blood Artists.

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The biggest problem with this guy is that essentially all your opponents creatures can chump him, even the ground dude that attacked you last turn.

Abyssal prosecutor really wasn't bad, caw-blade was just too dominating at that time and some very good cards couldn't shine because of it. Sword of feast and famine also made life really hard for black

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Originally posted by Bagbokk:
Can't count on it, but you'd have to look at what kind of decks he'd likely be played in. Namely, the mono-black midrange/control type decks. You drop this guy on turn 3-4 and Mutilate the next turn and you're going to be doing pretty well. Not that I have any idea what kind of metagame RtR is going to have or if something similar to mono-black would be viable/competitive, but the point being, this card might not be one that's for every deck to play, but could be very good in certain ones.

That, or you're playing against control and they simply don't HAVE creatures to sacrifice.

He's also a possibility in some zombie decks (if everyone isn't already gravitating to BG or jund zombie) with Blood Artists.

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Originally posted by junichi:
Mono black control is a myth. Every time a new set is spoiled, people will say certain card is good in MBC, but when is the last time MBC saw play in standard? Until Phyrexian Arena is reprinted, I will say MBC is dead and won't be coming back.

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Originally posted by fluffycow:
I would think it definitely will definitely see play

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Originally posted by junichi:
Mono black control is a myth. Every time a new set is spoiled, people will say certain card is good in MBC, but when is the last time MBC saw play in standard? Until Phyrexian Arena is reprinted, I will say MBC is dead and won't be coming back.

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Originally posted by gcowhsu:
Do you guys think that the 3/4 for 1 is good? The loss of the card is pretty important. End game it does nothing unless you can fill your hand. The hybrid mana makes it decent, but I don't think that it is going to do anything.

I think the desecration demon is good sideboard against a deck that has little creatures.

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why would you want an abyss effect against a deck with small creatures? cant you just Mutilate or something?

also, the little red 1 drop can be a lot more than a 3/4. Any time you have an instant or sorcery on the stack, you can exile it to put 2 +1/+1 counters on him. However, this does leave you open to massive card disadvantage.

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Originally posted by thror:
also, the little red 1 drop can be a lot more than a 3/4. Any time you have an instant or sorcery on the stack, you can exile it to put 2 +1/+1 counters on him. However, this does leave you open to massive card disadvantage.

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Originally posted by RJM:
Finally, provides a use for Index? :P

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How does he interact with replicate? or storm?

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Originally posted by nailbunny7:
How does he interact with replicate? or storm?

If it goes the way I think, it may be fun to play him in legacy with flusterstorm

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You control the spells.

That would be interesting if you only need a force spike or two and exile the rest.

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Originally posted by WeedIan:
You control the spells.

That would be interesting if you only need a force spike or two and exile the rest.

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Jund Control looks decent right now

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I'm messing around with a Jund Control build now. Obviously MBC is dead for a year since RtR is unlikely to allow for any mono-colored deck, period, but some versions of it were actually starting to place higher and higher in various SCG events within the last few months.

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Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Nivmagus Elemental
(U/R)
Creature-Elemental
Exile an instant or sorcery spell you control:
Put two +1/+1 counters on Nivmagus Elemental.
1/2

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Is it just me or is this card going to be bonkers? It is already a 1/2 for 1 mana. This plus Delver which is stacked with instants already is just to good. Also with flashback you get more mileage out of stuff like Forbidden Alchemy or you can dump situational spells like Feeling of Dread.

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Originally posted by AGO:
Is it just me or is this card going to be bonkers? It is already a 1/2 for 1 mana. This plus Delver which is stacked with instants already is just to good. Also with flashback you get more mileage out of stuff like Forbidden Alchemy or you can dump situational spells like Feeling of Dread.

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Originally posted by hilikuS:
It exiles the spell from your hand, so you can't use the flashback. No evasion.

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Originally posted by Myy:
no, it exiles the spell fromt he stack.

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Originally posted by Myy:
no, it exiles the spell fromt he stack.

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I totally read it, just had no idea that's what it meant. Makes sense now, lol.

Still don't see why it's good either.

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Originally posted by hilikuS:

Still don't see why it's good either.

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I guess people like it because it allows you to recycle countered/fizzling spells. That still doesn't make it particularly good in my book, however. Neat, but not good.

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Originally posted by hilikuS:
I totally read it, just had no idea that's what it meant. Makes sense now, lol.

Still don't see why it's good either.

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Originally posted by thror:
why would you want an abyss effect against a deck with small creatures? cant you just Mutilate or something?

also, the little red 1 drop can be a lot more than a 3/4. Any time you have an instant or sorcery on the stack, you can exile it to put 2 +1/+1 counters on him. However, this does leave you open to massive card disadvantage.

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