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Mana Bloom seems super-cool!
Great design!

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Deathrite Shaman
(B/G)
Creature - Elf Shaman
T: Exile target land from a graveyard. Add
one mana of any color to your mana pool.
B, T: Exile target instant or sorcery card
from a graveyard. Each opponent loses 2 life.
G, T: Exile target creature card from a
graveyard. You gain 2 life.
1/2

Legacy playable?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Deathrite Shaman
(B/G)
Creature - Elf Shaman
T: Exile target land from a graveyard. Add
one mana of any color to your mana pool.
B, T: Exile target instant or sorcery card
from a graveyard. Each opponent loses 2 life.
G, T: Exile target creature card from a
graveyard. You gain 2 life.
1/2

Legacy playable?



Looks like a corner-case utility creature. GSZ does mean it can be fetched, so it might see some play as a 1-of in one of the "Nic Fit" variants. To me, the second ability looks like the most useful, followed by the third (since gaining life is actually handy in the late-game for most of the B/G decks). The trouble is that Scavenging Ooze competes for the third ability, and is a more useful graveyard-control mechanism (plus, it's a powerful threat), so I'm not convinced that I wouldn't prefer to run another Ooze rather than this guy.


RIP looks like some of the best graveyard hate available, though. Not that we needed more.

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quote:
Originally posted by skizzikmonger:
Was Birds of Paradise among the cards spoiled?

Nope Birds is not in the Set!

RIP Birds in standard

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
Nope Birds is not in the Set!

RIP Birds in standard


Yes I'm sad too .

I like the new Deathrite Shaman though. I like how it removes lands and adds mana, which is probably bad in a standard with no fetch lands, but you never know. There is a lot of Snapcaster hate in this set.

 
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So basically only thing left is Golgari charm and 2 mythics if I am not mistaken?

[Edited 1 times, lastly by oneofchaos on September 17, 2012]
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Soldier Boi:
Yes I'm sad too .

I like the new Deathrite Shaman though. I like how it removes lands and adds mana, which is probably bad in a standard with no fetch lands, but you never know. There is a lot of Snapcaster hate in this set.


That card is bonker.

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
Nope Birds is not in the Set!

RIP Birds in standard


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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
Nope Birds is not in the Set!

RIP Birds in standard


so I guess it'll go back to a buck?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Myy:
so I guess it'll go back to a buck?

I don't know about that. Birds is/always has been very popular with the casual crowd.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Myy:
so I guess it'll go back to a buck?

Nope. IMO, It will increase.

 
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Well, now that the set is nearly all spoiled, folks can promptly begin bitching about how much it sucks because there are some rares and uncommons that aren't constructed playable.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by Bugger:
Well, now that the set is nearly all spoiled, folks can promptly begin bitching about how much it sucks because there are some rares and uncommons that aren't constructed playable.

Well seriously dude. This was their GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY to reprint Tarmogoyf, and they screwed the pooch. Guh... Maro, Wizards, Hasbro, WTF dudes?

 
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quote:
Originally posted by hilikuS:
Well seriously dude. This was their GOLDEN OPPORTUNITY to reprint Tarmogoyf, and they screwed the pooch. Guh... Maro, Wizards, Hasbro, WTF dudes?


I really hope your being sarcastic....

Set still looks fantastic. a 6 cc double wurms is amazing!

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
I really hope you're being sarcastic....

Set still looks fantastic. a 6 cc double wurms is amazing!


100% sarcasm. Was hoping someone would go SALVATION NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! To that, haha.



[Edited 1 times, lastly by hilikuS on September 18, 2012]

 
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quote:
Originally posted by hilikuS:
100% sarcasm. Was hoping someone would go SALVATION NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! To that, haha.


The day somebody goes Salvation YEEEEEEEEEEES...

 
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Golgari Charm GB
Instant
Choose one - All creatures get -1/-1 until end of turn; or destroy target enchantment; or regenerate each creature you control.

this looks pretty awesome. another token deck hoser. also deals with Supreme Verdict and oblivion rings/spheres. I think green is going to be the standard color of choice.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by dfitzg88:
Golgari Charm GB
Instant
Choose one - All creatures get -1/-1 until end of turn; or destroy target enchantment; or regenerate each creature you control.

this looks pretty awesome. another token deck hoser. also deals with Supreme Verdict and oblivion rings/spheres. I think green is going to be the standard color of choice.


I agree about the green domination. Between zombies, jund variants, Junk, and bant, green has a very solid lock on playability post-rotation.

 
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Honestly I think the only color that really has its work cut out for it w/r/t to making it into tier 1 decks post-rotation is white. Jund/junk is clearly going to be a thing, but there are also plenty of izzet goodies and as long as snapcaster yet lives, blue is gonna have its foot in the door.

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Set is spoiled!

Still a very good set, less than a week until the pre-release.

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
Set is spoiled!

Still a very good set, less than a week until the pre-release.


pre release isnt until the 29th. 10 days from now. more than a week away....

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quote:
Originally posted by thror:
pre release isnt until the 29th. 10 days from now. more than a week away....


Arrrgh! Ruined!

Who thinks Thragtusk is still one of the best creatures in magic after rotation?

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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
Arrrgh! Ruined!

Who thinks Thragtusk is still one of the best creatures in magic after rotation?



Right behind restoration angel :P

 
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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
Arrrgh! Ruined!

Who thinks Thragtusk is still one of the best creatures in magic after rotation?




And Wolfir Silverheart. Sucks to be Vorapede

 
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Is it just me or is azorius not very inspired in this set. It is frustrating because I think detain is far and away the neatest mechanic but almost all the azorius cards are just blah. Basically out of the UW gold cards I see the charm, the guildmage, and the skyknight as interesting then the fillibuster guy and bird in hybrid are neat. I was expecting more as soon as detain got spoiled I was thinking, "Wow! They are going to make azorius pop!" But it seems like they didn't really have great ideas so we just got bad consecrated sphinx and gold o-pulse ring and day.

Can't help but wonder if part of the reason isn't that UW has been dominant in standard since bloodbraid elf rotated and they were (justifiably) trying to change that up.

Main reason I'm bummed is because the UW part of my cube is underwhelming and the 3 cards that are up for consideration are all near reprints of mono color cards: judge's familiar, supreme verdict, detention sphere.

 

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