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Topic: Return to Ravnica Compilation of known info
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stab107 Member
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posted September 02, 2012 06:32 AM
Not sure how I feel about the Gate lands but I do like a lot of the cards that have been spoiled so far. Limited should be interesting, definitely looking forward to that!
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Myy Member
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posted September 02, 2012 10:13 AM
quote: Originally posted by Heresy19: I LOVE the gate lands
y?
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Bugger Member
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posted September 02, 2012 02:41 PM
Detain is just...brilliant. Absolutely ingenious design. Unleashed is another mechanic that gives a previously-shafted guild a properly fitting mechanic, but Detain... damn.
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Heresy19 Member
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posted September 02, 2012 04:19 PM
quote: Originally posted by Myy: y?
I love a new fetchable dual land type with the gatecreepers
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MAB_Rapper Member
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posted September 02, 2012 06:21 PM
I think I'm breaking my no standard rules... 5CC, here I come.__________________ My 2008 Nationals The Official Tower Magic Facebook Page hilikuS: Also, as much as MAB's list has become the list on the T/A Forum, I do miss Slinga's.
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iccarus Member
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posted September 02, 2012 07:12 PM
quote: Originally posted by Myy: y?
While I wouldn't say I love them, I do enjoy having access to some another set of enemy aligned duals. It can be very important for EDH players who don't have access to a bunch of duals and fetches. That's a complaint I here frequently with local players who have not been playing the game forever. Also notice there's a functional reprint of Rupture Spire on the spoiler. A move that's, again, likely aimed at the EDH crowd. __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air!I collect Granite Gargoyles. Send them my way.
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Hooskdaddy Member
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posted September 02, 2012 09:17 PM
Niv mizzet and insperia are pretty ridiculous. So far the mythics have been pretty nice. Niv mizzet may make u/r miracles quite playable
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choco man Member
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posted September 02, 2012 09:35 PM
quote: Originally posted by Hooskdaddy: Niv mizzet and insperia are pretty ridiculous. So far the mythics have been pretty nice. Niv mizzet may make u/r miracles quite playable
Like the new isperia more than the new niv. New isperia differs more from the og isperia. New Niv seems more similar to old self. Just +1/+1 and sorta flipped abilities even the art is very similar Just waiting for new rakdos!
[Edited 1 times, lastly by choco man on September 02, 2012]
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hilikuS Member
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posted September 03, 2012 07:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by choco man: Like the new isperia more than the new niv.
Yes definitely. Niv just isn't doing it for me.
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fluffycow Member
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posted September 03, 2012 09:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by hilikuS: Yes definitely. Niv just isn't doing it for me.
They might has well have just reprinted that thing, except this the reprint would have been a better card. And consecrated sphinx is better than the new Ispera. I also don't like his name with his ability. I mean if he's judging than he should give the options of maybe either draw a card or do something to the creature. If 20 tokens are coming at you, those 20 cards probably aren't gonna save you anyways The new jace also makes me sad. But the power level on the common/uncommon stuff is very nice. Too bad the new terminate is a rare, which I didn't expect
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choco man Member
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posted September 03, 2012 09:34 AM
quote: Originally posted by fluffycow: They might has well have just reprinted that thing, except this the reprint would have been a better card. And consecrated sphinx is better than the new Ispera. I also don't like his name with his ability. I mean if he's judging than he should give the options of maybe either draw a card or do something to the creature. If 20 tokens are coming at you, those 20 cards probably aren't gonna save you anyways
I think the new Niv is a bit better at attacking. So for competitive play, he might be better than old. But for casual, taking the old Niv all day! Making Jace TMS a Arc Lightning is gravy. But for the new Isperia, even though I like it better than new Niv, disappointed as well. The art is epic, wished the card was epic also. But that's a lot of cards.
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Bagbokk Member
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posted September 03, 2012 09:47 AM
quote: If 20 tokens are coming at you, those 20 cards probably aren't gonna save you anyways
This part isn't necessarily true, since (unless I'm totally wrong, then I'll just edit this out) the trigger happens whenever a creature attacks you or a planeswalker you control, you can draw X cards and do something before blockers & combat damage happens. Miracle Terminus (not that you'd want to with Isperia out, but if 20 tokens are coming at you...), Bonfire if you're UWr or whatever, Safe Passage (lol?), etc. I didn't play during Ravnica so I honestly don't care about how the new cards are compared to the old ones, I just care about how they are now. I do like a lot of the spoiled cards though, especially Rakdos's Return and Dreadbore. New Jace isn't terrible, though it's really his -2 ability that's decent. I like the charms.
[Edited 3 times, lastly by Bagbokk on September 03, 2012]
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hilikuS Member
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posted September 03, 2012 10:36 AM
quote: Originally posted by fluffycow:
The new jace also makes me sad.
While I kind of like the new Jace, and think he's one of the better walkers printed in awhile. He didn't have to be good. The two walkers could be worse than Tibalt and the set would still be totally jawesome. I'm glad that Jace is at least decent. I mean, I'm still totally stoked about Dreadbore, Gate lands, and the opportunity to rip some rav duals, with IMO better art! Anxious to see walker #2, but at this point my expectations for an awesome set have been reached.
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choco man Member
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posted September 03, 2012 01:25 PM
maybe one day, there will be a walker with a static effect on the board.
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Myy Member
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posted September 03, 2012 01:43 PM
quote: Originally posted by choco man: maybe one day, there will be a walker with a static effect on the board.
you mean like emblems?
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choco man Member
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posted September 03, 2012 02:00 PM
quote: Originally posted by Myy: you mean like emblems?
Not an ultimate that gives you an emblem. Something that is right away.
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iccarus Member
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posted September 03, 2012 03:05 PM
quote: Originally posted by choco man: Not an ultimate that gives you an emblem. Something that is right away.
Not to split hairs, but Sorin, LoI has a non-ultimate emblem you can get right away. I'm assuming you mean something more like an enchantment where you don't have to activate a loyalty ability to get it. Looking at the new Niv from an EDH perspective, he might be better for those actually trying to play UR as a non-combo deck. I just remember drawing instant hate when I played the old Niv, even if I did not build the deck around abusing his ability. __________________ Wisconsin - smells like dairy air!I collect Granite Gargoyles. Send them my way.
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choco man Member
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posted September 03, 2012 04:31 PM
quote: Originally posted by iccarus: Not to split hairs, but Sorin, LoI has a non-ultimate emblem you can get right away. I'm assuming you mean something more like an enchantment where you don't have to activate a loyalty ability to get it.Looking at the new Niv from an EDH perspective, he might be better for those actually trying to play UR as a non-combo deck. I just remember drawing instant hate when I played the old Niv, even if I did not build the deck around abusing his ability.
About the static ability thing, it's not that I don't think emblems are bad or anything. In fact, I think they're awesome. You have work to them, but they are better than enchantments because you can't negate emblems. Yeah, Sorin's ain't an ultimate. Thanks for reminding me, I actually forgot. But just like how Sorin's emblem isn't an ultimate (IE, you can use RIGHT AWAY), I'm just talking about something different. Sorin v2.0 got an emblem from a non-ultimate, Jace TMS has 4 loyalty abilities. What about a PW that just hits the board and has a non-loyalty ability/effect. I think that's a better phrasing of what I meant. And I agree with you on the new Niv being much safer. This is probably the only safe Izzet general that's decent. Playing Tibor stinks, and playing the other ones paints a huge target on you.
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stab107 Member
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posted September 03, 2012 09:59 PM
Havoc Festival made me feel all warm and fuzzy inside. I have a feeling Malfegor may return to the EDH table .
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Zeckk Member
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posted September 04, 2012 12:32 AM
quote: Originally posted by choco man: About the static ability thing, it's not that I don't think emblems are bad or anything. In fact, I think they're awesome. You have work to them, but they are better than enchantments because you can't negate emblems. Yeah, Sorin's ain't an ultimate. Thanks for reminding me, I actually forgot. But just like how Sorin's emblem isn't an ultimate (IE, you can use RIGHT AWAY), I'm just talking about something different. Sorin v2.0 got an emblem from a non-ultimate, Jace TMS has 4 loyalty abilities. What about a PW that just hits the board and has a non-loyalty ability/effect. I think that's a better phrasing of what I meant. And I agree with you on the new Niv being much safer. This is probably the only safe Izzet general that's decent. Playing Tibor stinks, and playing the other ones paints a huge target on you.
No offense, but wanting a non-interactive static effect isn't exactly a pinnacle of magic design. In other news, that Dryad Militant is pretty freaking spicy. Agressive, powerful, huge synergies with GSZ and ranger of eos, and easy to cast? Maverick decks just got a shiny new toy. That deck is almost entirely hate bears now.
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oneofchaos Member
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posted September 04, 2012 01:29 AM
quote: Originally posted by Zeckk: No offense, but wanting a non-interactive static effect isn't exactly a pinnacle of magic design.In other news, that Dryad Militant is pretty freaking spicy. Agressive, powerful, huge synergies with GSZ and ranger of eos, and easy to cast? Maverick decks just got a shiny new toy. That deck is almost entirely hate bears now.
Love the power creep for creatures, and lack of for instant sorceries lol. Funny how savannah lions was overpowered when I started. Now you can print a savannah lions with abilities in 1 or 2 colors and call it fair! This was definitely a nod toward hurting snapcaster decks in standard, but I think it will trickle down into most other formats.
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skizzikmonger Member
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posted September 04, 2012 04:03 AM
~Lotleth Troll BG Creature-Zombie Troll Trample Discard a creature card from your hand: Put a +1/+1 counter on ~. B: Regenerate ~. 2/1
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fluffycow Member
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posted September 04, 2012 07:11 AM
quote: Originally posted by skizzikmonger: ~Lotleth Troll BG Creature-Zombie Troll Trample Discard a creature card from your hand: Put a +1/+1 counter on ~. B: Regenerate ~. 2/1
I really want them to make enough cards to make boneyard wurm playable. Unfortunately as of right now everything costs 2 and nothing costs 1 which makes even a god hand ungodly
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Pail42 Member
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posted September 04, 2012 07:24 AM
quote: Originally posted by iccarus: While I wouldn't say I love them, I do enjoy having access to some another set of enemy aligned duals. It can be very important for EDH players who don't have access to a bunch of duals and fetches.
I would certainly use these new duals in a highlander deck, but in a typical 60 card two-color deck I would choose evolving wilds over this. The ability to thin out lands is more useful than having something that can tap for either, and both cards have the same downside of producing no mana on the first turn. If they have some powerful "gate" interactions that all changes.
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WeedIan Member
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posted September 04, 2012 08:26 AM
Dryad should have been a cat__________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 2nd in posts in Canada 10th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
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