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Speed Demon Banned	posted December 19, 2012 11:38 PM quote: Originally posted by Zeckk: Not from WoTC's perspective. They lose money on PTs, period. Fewer invites means fewer plane tickets, fewer hotel reservations, fewer costs in general. Making PTs bigger does nothing in terms of increasing it's effectiveness in terms of being a marketing tool, especially when weekly, high profile events like the SCG Open series already provides competitive players with an ideal competitive meta perspective. Do you know how advertising works? Do you realize magic is a huge cash cow for Hasbro? Do you even know what you are even talking about? Also, WotC gets a solid F in the marketing aspect of this game. Their marketing and promotion team is a complete joke. They know they have us (the consumers) by the balls so they refuse to do anything to help the game. [Edited 1 times, lastly by Speed Demon on December 19, 2012]
skizzikmonger Member	posted December 19, 2012 11:55 PM quote: Originally posted by Speed Demon: Do you even know what you are even talking about? Do you?
Speed Demon Banned	posted December 20, 2012 12:19 AM quote: Originally posted by skizzikmonger: Do you? More than this zeckk character.
Zeckk Member	posted December 20, 2012 02:42 AM It must suck being that desperate for attention.
MagicPatty Member	posted December 20, 2012 03:52 AM hehe, this conversation is going the same way that all MOTL conversations go. __________________ Starting the bulk rare collection all over! Send them my way!
Volcanon Member	posted December 20, 2012 05:34 AM quote: Originally posted by MagicPatty: hehe, this conversation is going the same way that all MOTL conversations go. Just waitin' for either Hitler or guns!
nylarotep Member	posted December 20, 2012 05:58 AM quote: Originally posted by gaeacradle: Academy Rector. Burning Wish. Land Tax, Scroll Rack, The Abyss, Aluren
Absurd90 Member	posted December 20, 2012 07:28 AM Wasteland was $55 earlier this year thanks to SCG trying to inflate its price, now its $35 :P
caquaa Member	posted December 20, 2012 08:04 AM quote: Originally posted by Absurd90: Wasteland was $55 earlier this year thanks to SCG trying to inflate its price, now its $35 :P scg didn't just randomly decide to inflate the price, they ad demand increase. Wasteland decks were the thing to do at the time, now wastelands are more sparse in deck lists and the decks that do run wasteland don't always run the full 4.
Lord Crovax Member	posted December 20, 2012 08:19 AM quote: Originally posted by caquaa: scg didn't just randomly decide to inflate the price, they ad demand increase. Wasteland decks were the thing to do at the time, now wastelands are more sparse in deck lists and the decks that do run wasteland don't always run the full 4. Sush, we are not allowed to use logic in this debate! It spoils the fun! __________________ I shall have the souls of all who defy me. "Lord Crovax"
coasterdude84 Member	posted December 20, 2012 10:01 AM Speed Demon, when you say "fake inflation," I believe what you really mean is "cornering the market." Yes, the diamond folks do a good job of keeping the supply low, but that works because they control the mines. However, buying up the market in an attempt to inflate prices is actually a poor fiscal plan. The Sumitomo copper affair of the '90s is a good example of how it all goes wrong. Yes, it inflates prices, but you usually turn away demand as well (i.e., people seek alternatives), so as soon as you try to liquidate, it all settles back out and you end up losing. SCG doesn't print the cards themselves; they only buy and sell them. Now, they may speculate on a card and raise the prices in the belief that demand WILL increase, but they aren't cornering the market. Personally, I collect Alpha Zombie Masters, but not for the purpose of cornering the market. While my collecting has driven up the prices, I know that if I sold them I would never recoup my investment (well, I may because of the EDH boom, but that's a separate event).
Absurd90 Member	posted December 20, 2012 10:38 AM quote: Originally posted by caquaa: scg didn't just randomly decide to inflate the price, they ad demand increase. Wasteland decks were the thing to do at the time, now wastelands are more sparse in deck lists and the decks that do run wasteland don't always run the full 4. Wasteland decks have always been around, I think that was the most clear and gross price manipulation by them which is why I posted it. If you check tcdecks.com theres more wasteland decks played now than there was last april (when wastelands were $55).
marlo213 Member	posted December 21, 2012 11:02 AM Are foil rofellos really 100 now?
rats60 Member	posted December 21, 2012 11:17 AM quote: Originally posted by marlo213: Are foil rofellos really 100 now? 60. For 100 I'd have to consider busting my stompy deck and selling the 4 Rofellos.
WeedIan Member	posted December 21, 2012 12:43 PM quote: Originally posted by rats60: 60. For 100 I'd have to consider busting my stompy deck and selling the 4 Rofellos. They are even 60 on SCG even though they are sold out. Also I thought twitter was stupid until i started following magic players and now its fun. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 2nd in posts in Canada 10th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs [Edited 1 times, lastly by WeedIan on December 21, 2012]
revenger Member	posted December 21, 2012 05:32 PM quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: They are even 60 on SCG even though they are sold out. Also I thought twitter was stupid until i started following magic players and now its fun. championship winners or no name players? i'm curious on who ur following. email me details if possible. __________________ Your 2008 & 2010 Siskel & Ebert award winner! 32nd in refs on Motl! #1 Ref's for Arizona! I offer 3rd party trading services. Email if interested. Sites NOT recommended for MTG trading: Mtgsalvation.com (Ripped), Deckbox.org (ripped)
WeedIan Member	posted December 22, 2012 07:14 AM quote: Originally posted by revenger: championship winners or no name players? i'm curious on who ur following. email me details if possible. Gerry T, Brad Nelson, LSV, Owen Turtenwald, Brian Kibler, Cedric Phillips, Arix Lax, Ruben Bresler, Patrick Chaplin, Eric Klug, Conley Woods, Adam Barnello are ones from todays tweets that i follow. I've had responses back from Kibler, Gerry T and Brad Nelson on tweets at them (Kibler about the Hobbit, Gerry T about his boom/bust deck and Brad Nelson on building a legacy deck with Trading Post) It makes them very good ambassadors do the game being friendly to people on twitter. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 2nd in posts in Canada 10th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
marlo213 Member	posted December 22, 2012 07:18 AM quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: They are even 60 on SCG even though they are sold out. Also I thought twitter was stupid until i started following magic players and now its fun. I can't find a single place where I can get them for less than $100. 60 sold out on starcity still means that with 60 dollars you can't get one from starcity right?
rats60 Member	posted December 22, 2012 07:43 AM quote: Originally posted by marlo213: I can't find a single place where I can get them for less than $100. 60 sold out on starcity still means that with 60 dollars you can't get one from starcity right? Ebay. 2 have sold on ebay this month for that. Wait for another to come up for auction and bid on it. People can ask whatever they want for their cards. If people aren't paying 100.00, then that's not the price.
marlo213 Member	posted December 22, 2012 08:56 AM quote: Originally posted by rats60: Ebay. 2 have sold on ebay this month for that. Wait for another to come up for auction and bid on it. People can ask whatever they want for their cards. If people aren't paying 100.00, then that's not the price. Sell me yours for $60 each?
Absurd90 Member	posted December 22, 2012 11:46 AM 8 Rofellos available for $60
WeedIan Member	posted December 22, 2012 11:54 AM I see that Stu just beat Reuben Bresler in Round 4 __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 2nd in posts in Canada 10th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs
caquaa Member	posted December 22, 2012 12:04 PM quote: Originally posted by Absurd90: 8 Rofellos available for $60 MKM is a lot of work for US buyers
JoshSherman Member	posted December 22, 2012 06:15 PM quote: Originally posted by WeedIan: I see that Stu just beat Reuben Bresler in Round 4 I don follow pro Magic, so I don't know who that is. Congrats Stu-bu! __________________ My LJLetter Bombs!FBLogout- MM is a copycat!*CKGB
WeedIan Member	posted December 23, 2012 07:43 AM quote: Originally posted by JoshSherman: I don follow pro Magic, so I don't know who that is. Congrats Stu-bu! He's one of the Starcity games announcers/writers. __________________ Member Since 03/28/2001 12000+ posts 1st in posts in Ontario 2nd in posts in Canada 10th in posts on MOTL 5th in Refs in Ontario Pushing to get to top 100 in MOTL Refs

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