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AGO
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Artist altered?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mtg-Altered-Art-Force-Of-Will-Italian-Altered-And-Signed-By-Artist-/321030686560?pt=Trading_Card_Games_US&autorefresh=true&hash=item4abeeb8760&nma=true&si=H xFe9T%2F1ghCtK%2FBHPpBhk%2F0a06A%3D&orig_cvip=true&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2557

 
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quote:
Originally posted by mattw:
For the record, I really dislike americans that only want to trade within the US because sending to canada is too expensive.

It costs me 1.35 to send cards to the states.

How much does the post office gouge you guys down there to mail some trading cards!?

I actually sent a bubble mailer to nicholas biron this week with a tamiyo and jace 4.0 in it. Costed me.... A buck thirty five! Canada post may be slow but apparently you can't beat those prices.


Liability is the main problem with international shipping. Without a waiver of liability I don't usually ship internationally

quote:
Originally posted by Zeckk:
You go for card value, I go for playability. And to provide some perspective, I have the card pool for roughly any legacy deck I wish to play, same goes for modern and standard. Standard is the format for roughly 75% of any high-REL event in my area - why the **** would I focus all my time and effort on making sure my trades "retain long-term value" when I need to make sure I actually have the correct deck for the 891273428975 standard events in any given year? Especially when I can flip the standard cards I used AT THE SAME EXACT EVENT. using the excuse that you can't convert hot standard staples into less-volatile commodities is a lazy excuse, nothing more.

And to further refute the "legacy is king" thinking - most legacy players already have the older staples. It's the new stuff that they have to acquire in order to keep the deck competitive. Duals and onslaught fetches are rarely traded in the first place, so bringing up the mythical "deltas for thragtusks" trade is a red herring. Few enough people even LIST duals and other high-end legacy stuff for trade.


Legacy is king because its card values are very stable. EDH staples are also fairly stable. But standard, I won't touch standard stuff unless its for EDH.

[Edited 1 times, lastly by Swift2210 on November 28, 2012]

 
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Do any of these buylist prices seam even remotely close? If so I am going to have to put a list like this together.

http://classic.magictraders.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/097244.html

Return To Ravnica:
Azorius & Selesnya Charms @ .15. Maximum of 100
All other Charms @ .05. Maximum of 100
Call of the Conclave @ .05. Maximum of 100
Rakdos Cackler @ .10. Maximum of 100
Ultimate Price @ .10. Maximum of 100
Magic 2013:
Augur of Bolas @ .10. Maximum of 50
Jace’s Phantasm @ .05. Maximum of 40
Knight of Glory @ .15. Maximum of 40
Knight of Infamy @ .10. Maximum of 40
Oblivion Ring @ .10. Maximum of 40
Rancor @ 1.00. Maximum of 40
Vampire Nighthawk @ .15. Maximum of 40
Searing Spear @ .10. Maximum of 50
Avacyn Restored:
Wolfir Avenger @ .05. Maximum of 40
Pillar of Flame @ .10. Maximum of 40
Dark Ascension:
Lingering Souls @ .40. Maximum of 40
Strangleroot Geist @ .40. Maximum of 40
Faithless Looting @ .05. Maximum of 40
Tragic Slip @ .05. Maximum of 40
Innistrad:
Diregraf Ghoul @ .10. Maximum of 40
Dissipate @ .10. Maximum of 40
Fiend Hunter @ .05. Maximum of 40
Intangible Virtue @ .15. Maximum of 40
Midnight Haunting @ .10. Maximum of 40
Unburial Rites @ .05. Maximum of 40

 
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Should be able to push the guy for .25 on some of the more playeed uncommons like Augur of Bolas and Vampire Nighthawk, but the rest of them look fine. You can also prolly push him to .75 on lingering souls.
 
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quote:
Originally posted by mattw:
For the record, I really dislike americans that only want to trade within the US because sending to canada is too expensive.

It costs me 1.35 to send cards to the states.

How much does the post office gouge you guys down there to mail some trading cards!?

I actually sent a bubble mailer to nicholas biron this week with a tamiyo and jace 4.0 in it. Costed me.... A buck thirty five! Canada post may be slow but apparently you can't beat those prices.


Did that bubble mailer have delivery confirmation on it? If not, did you get him to waive liability for lost/stolen/damaged mail? If no to both questions, what will you be doing if, a month later, he sends you an e-mail saying he never received those cards?

The SHIPPING cost to Canada is cheaper than the shipping cost to any other international country, but registered mail still costs $11.50 no matter where we send it to. On the other hand, shipping with delivery confirmation is typically $1.64 to $1.81 for me, and generally a maximum of $5.15 if I absolutely have to send using a small priority mail box (>100 cards).

That's on top of the delays. Ontario's like a 9 hour drive and California's like a 3-day drive from me, but cards from California are going to arrive in 3-4 days while cards from Canada might not arrive for 2 weeks.

So yeah, I'm happy to ship for cheaper when people waive liability, it probably costs me anywhere from $1.05 to $3.00 or so depending on how people want it shipped, but there ARE valid reasons not to want to ship that way.

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeckk:
Should be able to push the guy for .25 on some of the more playeed uncommons like Augur of Bolas and Vampire Nighthawk, but the rest of them look fine. You can also prolly push him to .75 on lingering souls.


Probably $1 on Lingering Souls, I know I would buy a stack at $1 if I saw them.

 
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I will agree that Canada Post is ridiculously slow.

It takes about the same amount of time for cards to get from Toronto to my doorstep as it does for cards from memphis.

 
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When does mtgo set redemption start? if there a fixed date or is it as soon as somebody collects the full set?

~Myy

 
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quote:
Originally posted by Zeckk:
Should be able to push the guy for .25 on some of the more playeed uncommons like Augur of Bolas and Vampire Nighthawk, but the rest of them look fine. You can also prolly push him to .75 on lingering souls.

Cackler should probably be bumped to .25

 
bushe
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Originally posted by Myy:
When does mtgo set redemption start? if there a fixed date or is it as soon as somebody collects the full set?

~Myy


It is a set date usually about 3 weeks after the set comes online. I know rav redemptions have started already.

 
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Originally posted by AGO:
Got a RTR gift box. 2 Rares were Conjured Currencey the others even worse..... Bah hum bug.

Ouch. Nderwife got me one today, and the 3 rares, Hypersonic Dragon, Loxodon Smiter and Supreme Verdict all completed playsets, then the Trostani was just a bonus. Kind of funny since all I really wanted was the box and the stickers. Still need to find more stickers for my collection sorting.

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Originally posted by stizkidz:
I received this PM yesterday:

"Hi. I have demonic tutor and vexing devil for a polluted delta if you are interest."

This HAS to be a joke, right? I don't even have a Polluted Delta listed for trade.


just reply back, "sure, I'll accept your beta demonic tutor (or foil, whichever) plus your vexing devil for my polluted delta. I'll need to ask you send first."

 
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Is the weekly price guide not working?
 
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Is the weekly price guide not working?

I don't think the regular one is updating either. Craterhoof is $2.60 still.

 
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I didn't know my sales list was there for ppl to make money off of, sorry my bad :/
 
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I didn't know my sales list was there for ppl to make money off of, sorry my bad :/

Obviously Its all about ripping you off

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waiting on olivia voldaren to drop
 
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waiting on olivia voldaren to drop

Don't hold your breath. Jund top 8'd the SCG and the TCG invitational this weekend, and it's one of the better finishers against RB aggro and reanimator.

 
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*playing magic~ 4 player ffa ~ saturday night. me: "2 black and colorless, i'll drop phyrexian arena" opponent next to me on the left. Caleb "that card sucks. u lose 1 life every turn, all for a card." next turn. me: "4 black, Damnation. tyvm arena." Caleb: "um, u just destroyed 2 of ur creatures. whats so good about that card?." me: "but i also destroyed 6 of urs, 3 across from me, and 4 across from u. but dont fret, it is a sucky $20 card" rookies! egads.

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Maybe you should share some more of your experience with them. I'm not surprised by the phyrexian arena thing - I've seen it plenty of times myself - qbut wow on calling that damnation play bad.

Mentioning card value is likely to alienate you from them also. They may just see it as bragging and ignore any advise.

 
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Originally posted by Pail42:
Maybe you should share some more of your experience with them. I'm not surprised by the phyrexian arena thing - I've seen it plenty of times myself - qbut wow on calling that damnation play bad.

Mentioning card value is likely to alienate you from them also. They may just see it as bragging and ignore any advise.


His brother and friend agreed with me. Drawing cards is usually good and Damnation is just awesome. He quickly changed his mind with Damnation, but still aint sure bout Arena

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Ok i'm bad at magic, can someone explain why the following is banned in Modern. I can figure out why other cards are banned or at least convince myself there is a good reason except for these 4.

Ancestral Vision
Dread Return
Umezawa's Jitte
Wild Nacatl

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http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/174b
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With shock lands, Wild Nacatl is a 3/3, and doesn't let you down when your opponent kills your Doran. With some effort, Student of Warfare becomes a 3/3 First Strike creature, but that isn't a sufficient reward for the effort compared with Wild Nacatl. This creature is so efficient it is keeping too many other creature decks from being competitive. So, in the interest of diversity, the DCI is banning Wild Nacatl.

http://www.wizards.com/magic/magazine/article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/ld/144

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Although Umezawa's Jitte is by far the most powerful Equipment in Legacy, it is not quite as game-ruiningly powerful as some of the other cards on this list. Historically, Umezawa's Jitte has been an extremely powerful card against creature decks, with mirror matches between creature decks often degenerating into battles over Jitte. Unfortunately, Stoneforge Mystic gives decks that want to fight against creature decks consistent access to Jitte and a creature to put it on. We think that Stoneforge Mystic is the more fun of the two cards, so rather than allow such a strong anti-creature-deck pressure to remain in the format, we chose to ban the real offender: Umezawa's Jitte.



[Edited 1 times, lastly by Pail42 on December 03, 2012]
 
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quote:
Originally posted by WeedIan:
Ok i'm bad at magic, can someone explain why the following is banned in Modern. I can figure out why other cards are banned or at least convince myself there is a good reason except for these 4.

Ancestral Vision
Dread Return
Umezawa's Jitte
Wild Nacatl



Vision's banning is largely because R&D doesn't want combo and control to have easy access to CA. While I think it's probably ok for vision to get unbanned, I do worry about the boost it could give Storm and Teachings.dec.

Dread Return should be unbanned, and I think it will once we get run through the upcoming modern season. Deathrite shaman and surgical extraction are sufficiant hate to make a combo-ish reanimator list risky enough.

Jitte hoses aggro, period. UW tempo is already a strong deck in the format, even without access to SFM or Jitte. Honestly, I would rather see SFM come off the list before Jitte.

Nacatl banning was a bystander banning of the punishing fire ban. Considering Zoo stopped seeing competitive play, I could see nacatl getting unbanned if Zoo doesn't make any waves after this modern season.

 
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Isn't Visions awful in Storm?

I know i'd love drawing it while trying to combo off.

I guess Jitte is reasonable to ban, its hard for me to see Nacatl as being too good when Delver is a thing.


Next query.

If Warren Instigator had haste as well would it be playable?
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